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	<title>Comments on: Alan Grayson Speaks the Language of Morality, Causes Mass Panic</title>
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		<title>By: Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alan Grayson is a welcome and refreshing breath of fresh air. As any good trial lawyer knows, passion is a necessary part of the art of persuasion. An argument mired in details, numbers, and statistics may be accurate, but it’s boring and unpersuasive because people fall asleep waiting for a punchline that never comes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People will remember his punchline long after all the statistics that support it are forgotten.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Grayson is a welcome and refreshing breath of fresh air. As any good trial lawyer knows, passion is a necessary part of the art of persuasion. An argument mired in details, numbers, and statistics may be accurate, but it’s boring and unpersuasive because people fall asleep waiting for a punchline that never comes.</p>
<p>People will remember his punchline long after all the statistics that support it are forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: jodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;many folks dont know who grayson is but if you wikipedia him you will find some interesting info. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is very intelligent harvard grad and a lawyer specializing in filing law suits against bad military contractors in Iraq&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many folks dont know who grayson is but if you wikipedia him you will find some interesting info. </p>
<p>He is very intelligent harvard grad and a lawyer specializing in filing law suits against bad military contractors in Iraq</p>
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		<title>By: jodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;kudos to grayson for saying in plain language what the republicans stand for.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the republicans say if you are sick to go to the emergency room for treatment, but the fail to mention that if you are going in for a non emergency treatment like you are sick to the core but you don’t know why, and thus have to have some followup to see what is wrong with you SORRY!, that is not an emergency and you are told to go home. told to go home with what? pre colon cancer, or some other major illness that won’t show up in full force until weeks or months later. this does not represent health care. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;lets us be honest in this country we have a health insurance system not health care system&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kudos to grayson for saying in plain language what the republicans stand for.</p>
<p>the republicans say if you are sick to go to the emergency room for treatment, but the fail to mention that if you are going in for a non emergency treatment like you are sick to the core but you don’t know why, and thus have to have some followup to see what is wrong with you SORRY!, that is not an emergency and you are told to go home. told to go home with what? pre colon cancer, or some other major illness that won’t show up in full force until weeks or months later. this does not represent health care. </p>
<p>lets us be honest in this country we have a health insurance system not health care system</p>
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		<title>By: Gasman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/02/alan-grayson-speaks-the-language-of-morality-causes-mass-panic/#comment-1988656</link>
		<dc:creator>Gasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The hypocrisy of the Republicans is truly priceless.  Virginia Foxx, Michelle Bachman, and cloud of other imbecilic buffoons that make up elected Republicans spout the most mendacious, insane, demagogic, and inflammatory rhetoric for months, and single utterance of an intentionally hyperbolic response sends the Republicans into fits of spasmodic hyperventilation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Grayson’s choice of the word “holocaust” was unfortunate and inappropriate, but the essential substance of his remarks was hard to assail on the basis of facts.  I haven’t heard a single bit of criticism from ANY Republican that has been even remotely rational.  There are many legitimate reasons for which they could oppose the D’s healthcare reforms, unfortunately, they have only chosen &lt;em&gt;imbecilic&lt;/em&gt; reasons.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is apparent that they have no substantive objections other than it offends their corporate paymasters, for whom they have been busily whoring throughout this entire debate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hypocrisy of the Republicans is truly priceless.  Virginia Foxx, Michelle Bachman, and cloud of other imbecilic buffoons that make up elected Republicans spout the most mendacious, insane, demagogic, and inflammatory rhetoric for months, and single utterance of an intentionally hyperbolic response sends the Republicans into fits of spasmodic hyperventilation. </p>
<p>Grayson’s choice of the word “holocaust” was unfortunate and inappropriate, but the essential substance of his remarks was hard to assail on the basis of facts.  I haven’t heard a single bit of criticism from ANY Republican that has been even remotely rational.  There are many legitimate reasons for which they could oppose the D’s healthcare reforms, unfortunately, they have only chosen <em>imbecilic</em> reasons.  </p>
<p>It is apparent that they have no substantive objections other than it offends their corporate paymasters, for whom they have been busily whoring throughout this entire debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Fram</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/02/alan-grayson-speaks-the-language-of-morality-causes-mass-panic/#comment-1988513</link>
		<dc:creator>Fram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like this guy, I like his smile when his foes go after him. Get Ned Lamont in the senate and these&lt;br /&gt;
two would make a good template for future Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this guy, I like his smile when his foes go after him. Get Ned Lamont in the senate and these<br />
two would make a good template for future Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: GDC707</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDC707</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I dig what Grayson said because he boils it down to the blood and bone. Christ! People are dying! They’re suffering. They’re being turned into paupers or homeless due to medical bankruptcy. And when he apologized to the dead I thought “Yes! Gawd how morbidly pungent.”  Gimme ‘mo dat shit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dig what Grayson said because he boils it down to the blood and bone. Christ! People are dying! They’re suffering. They’re being turned into paupers or homeless due to medical bankruptcy. And when he apologized to the dead I thought “Yes! Gawd how morbidly pungent.”  Gimme ‘mo dat shit.</p>
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		<title>By: AliciaMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AliciaMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes BFL - I remember when Alan Grayson was here at Firedoglake in Jan 08, running for Congress and talking to folks here. As someone who lived for years in Orlando it was so great to converse with him - even then we could tell that he had mojo. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He done good!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes BFL &#8211; I remember when Alan Grayson was here at Firedoglake in Jan 08, running for Congress and talking to folks here. As someone who lived for years in Orlando it was so great to converse with him &#8211; even then we could tell that he had mojo. </p>
<p>He done good!</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Progressives are the problem.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would say that the other pees, publicaners, are the problem&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They don’t have an agenda or plan or anything, they are absolutely terrible at governing for that very reason.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They have to lie or stand on propaganda meant to separate people from their own best interests. Instill fear in whatever form they can come up with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Their only raison d’tre is to fill the pocketbooks of those that have, all the rest is bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Progressives on the other hand have gotten 40 hour workweeks, unions, better education, social security etc. etc. etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And they certainly don’t support the financial system as it is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go get a fucking education that’s more than eleven degrees in width&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Progressives are the problem.</em></p>
<p>I would say that the other pees, publicaners, are the problem</p>
<p>They don’t have an agenda or plan or anything, they are absolutely terrible at governing for that very reason.</p>
<p>They have to lie or stand on propaganda meant to separate people from their own best interests. Instill fear in whatever form they can come up with.</p>
<p>Their only raison d’tre is to fill the pocketbooks of those that have, all the rest is bullshit.</p>
<p>Progressives on the other hand have gotten 40 hour workweeks, unions, better education, social security etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>And they certainly don’t support the financial system as it is.</p>
<p>Go get a fucking education that’s more than eleven degrees in width</p>
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		<title>By: Knoxville</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/02/alan-grayson-speaks-the-language-of-morality-causes-mass-panic/#comment-1988332</link>
		<dc:creator>Knoxville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Both recent Democratic Presidents got elected because they appealed to emotions. Both called on us to hope for a better future.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think another significant difference between Republicans and Democrats to what was pointed out in the post is that Republican leaders excite their followers by playing to their followers’ FANTASIES about what the world is and how THEY THINK it should be, and then, once in power, they go behind the scenes to make the world worse than their followers could ever imagine it really is. It’s an endless circle, seeing how the reason the Republican base thinks that government is good for nothing is parlty because their Republican leaders abuse the power of government and make it seem good for nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, the Democrats overall want their base to see the problems for what they are and then, first, to think about how to fix them, and, second, to get motivated to do what needs to be done. I don’t think it’s technocratic, exactly, but it is a different approach to stirring people to action.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the bottom line:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats got the House and Senate back in 2006 because the Republicans lost, having proven that they couldn’t govern, which was especially true during their last six years in the majority.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And in 2008 Barack Obama successfully identified the problems, defined them well, and especially stirred people’s emotions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what are the Democrats going to do in 2010? It’s already going to be an unfair fight, as midterm elections always give an advantage to the opposition party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When Obama tries to help Democratic candidates for Congress, what’s he going to stump on? That he and the Democrats sure did a great thing when they instituted a few token regulations on the insurance companies and then handed a ridiculous amount of money to them in the form of subsidies?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“But,” he’ll say, “we sure did try,” wink, wink, “to get you real reform with a public health insurance option.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe he can just tell all of us who have wanted to support him that we should try our best to ignore the big, wide red stripes that are all over far too many of the Democrats in Congress and, for that matter, in the White House, you know, maybe he can try to sell us a FANTASY about who the Democrats in government really are and that we should trust him when he says that the Democrats, when they go behind the scenes, aren’t really just blowing us off in favor of corporate interests.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’ll get out the base in 2010!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both recent Democratic Presidents got elected because they appealed to emotions. Both called on us to hope for a better future.</p>
<p>I think another significant difference between Republicans and Democrats to what was pointed out in the post is that Republican leaders excite their followers by playing to their followers’ FANTASIES about what the world is and how THEY THINK it should be, and then, once in power, they go behind the scenes to make the world worse than their followers could ever imagine it really is. It’s an endless circle, seeing how the reason the Republican base thinks that government is good for nothing is parlty because their Republican leaders abuse the power of government and make it seem good for nothing.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the Democrats overall want their base to see the problems for what they are and then, first, to think about how to fix them, and, second, to get motivated to do what needs to be done. I don’t think it’s technocratic, exactly, but it is a different approach to stirring people to action.</p>
<p>Here’s the bottom line:</p>
<p>The Democrats got the House and Senate back in 2006 because the Republicans lost, having proven that they couldn’t govern, which was especially true during their last six years in the majority.</p>
<p>And in 2008 Barack Obama successfully identified the problems, defined them well, and especially stirred people’s emotions.</p>
<p>So what are the Democrats going to do in 2010? It’s already going to be an unfair fight, as midterm elections always give an advantage to the opposition party.</p>
<p>When Obama tries to help Democratic candidates for Congress, what’s he going to stump on? That he and the Democrats sure did a great thing when they instituted a few token regulations on the insurance companies and then handed a ridiculous amount of money to them in the form of subsidies?</p>
<p>“But,” he’ll say, “we sure did try,” wink, wink, “to get you real reform with a public health insurance option.” </p>
<p>Maybe he can just tell all of us who have wanted to support him that we should try our best to ignore the big, wide red stripes that are all over far too many of the Democrats in Congress and, for that matter, in the White House, you know, maybe he can try to sell us a FANTASY about who the Democrats in government really are and that we should trust him when he says that the Democrats, when they go behind the scenes, aren’t really just blowing us off in favor of corporate interests.</p>
<p>Yeah, that’ll get out the base in 2010!</p>
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		<title>By: Sharkbabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharkbabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great lol title, Swopa .. always love your writing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Grayson really is rain on the parched earth of my thug-and-msm-battered-soul .. but people like Citizen Hamsher and us made him happen too .. the times are absolutely crying for some truth whoopass&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great lol title, Swopa .. always love your writing</p>
<p>Grayson really is rain on the parched earth of my thug-and-msm-battered-soul .. but people like Citizen Hamsher and us made him happen too .. the times are absolutely crying for some truth whoopass</p>
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