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	<title>Comments on: American Airlines Jilts its Pilots for a Japanese Mistress</title>
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		<title>By: getplaning</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1988169</link>
		<dc:creator>getplaning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It should be noted that the people who make these decisions to screw pilots and their crews do not fly commercial, not even first class. They fly private.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be noted that the people who make these decisions to screw pilots and their crews do not fly commercial, not even first class. They fly private.</p>
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		<title>By: flyarm616</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1987831</link>
		<dc:creator>flyarm616</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;American Airlines did the same thing to Flight Attendants  in 2001..when they bought TWA in April 2001..at the time the F/A’s were flying without a contract and American was threatening to replace F/A’s if they went on strike that summer..and with the Help of GWBUSH who was threatening using a very old law..the White House was threatening to fine us if we went out on stike..therefore AA F/A’s took a contract that I at the time as  F/A for AA thought was a terrible contract filled with terrible concessions!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AA paid 500 million for TWA and after taking control of TWA was stuck with debts that made the merger prob close to 2 billion $$$$&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; They wanted nothing but concessions from the F/A’s, with White House threats to the AA F/A’s. An Agreement was made that summer, and just before 9/11.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The TWA F/A’s really got screwed with the deal..but AA F/A’s refused to allow merging seniority on an equal basis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fly.. now retired F/A with American.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Airlines did the same thing to Flight Attendants  in 2001..when they bought TWA in April 2001..at the time the F/A’s were flying without a contract and American was threatening to replace F/A’s if they went on strike that summer..and with the Help of GWBUSH who was threatening using a very old law..the White House was threatening to fine us if we went out on stike..therefore AA F/A’s took a contract that I at the time as  F/A for AA thought was a terrible contract filled with terrible concessions!</p>
<p>AA paid 500 million for TWA and after taking control of TWA was stuck with debts that made the merger prob close to 2 billion $$$$</p>
<p> They wanted nothing but concessions from the F/A’s, with White House threats to the AA F/A’s. An Agreement was made that summer, and just before 9/11.</p>
<p>The TWA F/A’s really got screwed with the deal..but AA F/A’s refused to allow merging seniority on an equal basis.</p>
<p>fly.. now retired F/A with American.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, the airlines love to screw the people who actually make the dollars flow into the treasury and are the “public” face of the company… the pilots and FA’s who spend every day making sure the pax get safely from point “A” to point “B”.  Not to dis the entire team it takes to make the airline fly (res agents, gate agents, mechanics) but let’s face it, the folks in the plane are the ones who seemingly get screwed by management the most.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where is APA, the American pilots union on this?  How are they going to integrate the seniority lists with JAL and AA?  This is not going to be pretty…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the airlines love to screw the people who actually make the dollars flow into the treasury and are the “public” face of the company… the pilots and FA’s who spend every day making sure the pax get safely from point “A” to point “B”.  Not to dis the entire team it takes to make the airline fly (res agents, gate agents, mechanics) but let’s face it, the folks in the plane are the ones who seemingly get screwed by management the most.</p>
<p>Where is APA, the American pilots union on this?  How are they going to integrate the seniority lists with JAL and AA?  This is not going to be pretty…</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Whitney</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1987762</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That dynamic is partially in play here; this isn’t a BofA/Merrill situation directly, but AA is still irresponsible to leave its pilots out in the cold while it raises half a billion for JAL&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dynamic is partially in play here; this isn’t a BofA/Merrill situation directly, but AA is still irresponsible to leave its pilots out in the cold while it raises half a billion for JAL</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1987761</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do they really need a CEO with years of experience to go bankrupt?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they really need a CEO with years of experience to go bankrupt?</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At some point in the distant future, assuming we survive to it, there will be an re-evaluation of what is in business schools, which seems to be growth at any price, especially if it comes out of somebody else’s hide.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point in the distant future, assuming we survive to it, there will be an re-evaluation of what is in business schools, which seems to be growth at any price, especially if it comes out of somebody else’s hide.</p>
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		<title>By: southpalito</title>
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		<dc:creator>southpalito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;American AIrlines has no choice other than to buy Japan Airlines to keep it within its Oneworld alliance. If they don’t, Japan Airlines will end up in Delta’s network, making it the most powerful and largest airline in the world. American airlines will simply be unable to compete and will finally die. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;US government policy allows foreign airlines to quasi merge with US airlines if there is an open skies agreements with the US.   With that policy, Delta Airlines has linked with Air France,, Lufhansa has linked with United and now Continental.. leaving American Airlines alone, unable to  link with its partner British Airways in the same way due to politics.  Now US officials are negotiating open skies with Japan, opening the possibility to establish a near monopoly in that country.  Right now the  US-Japan market is dominated by Delta and United.  if Japan Airlines is bought by Delta, it would be devastating for American airlines since it has no other asian partner.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American AIrlines has no choice other than to buy Japan Airlines to keep it within its Oneworld alliance. If they don’t, Japan Airlines will end up in Delta’s network, making it the most powerful and largest airline in the world. American airlines will simply be unable to compete and will finally die. </p>
<p>US government policy allows foreign airlines to quasi merge with US airlines if there is an open skies agreements with the US.   With that policy, Delta Airlines has linked with Air France,, Lufhansa has linked with United and now Continental.. leaving American Airlines alone, unable to  link with its partner British Airways in the same way due to politics.  Now US officials are negotiating open skies with Japan, opening the possibility to establish a near monopoly in that country.  Right now the  US-Japan market is dominated by Delta and United.  if Japan Airlines is bought by Delta, it would be devastating for American airlines since it has no other asian partner.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1987757</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Duh. *smacking forehead*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh. *smacking forehead*</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1987756</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vanity Fair&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanity Fair</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/01/american-airlines-jilts-its-pilots-for-a-japanese-mistress/#comment-1987754</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VF?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VF?</p>
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