but that its framers might miss their goal of a 2010 union between the United States, Mexico and Canada.

They keep digging in Crazy does not get Moderate voters. Or women either unless they are Crazy too.

There is a reason why Dems lead with women voters.

It doesn’t take much to disrupt and derail any agenda for progressive change. The media is have a ball with all the dissent from the nuts – it makes good blather for their “news” and feeds into their balance meme.

It does demonstrate how ignorant people can be led and exploited to do anything even act against their own interests. We can see this in spades now with these poor white trash teabaggers agitating for their 1% which could care less about them.

The beltway crowd is busy trying to feather their own nests and has no problem with the legal bribery scheme called K street. Show me the money is the name of the game.

The MIC figured this all out and its trump cards were patriotism, protecting the USA from the nasties out there and spreading the jobs around so much that virtually most of the jobs in the USA are linked to the MIC. Cut out the MIC and you decimate american workers.

The corporations figured out that big is better and they merged to create their monopoly control lying about how the private sector and the market serves the people with better solutions. Then they bought the media and controlled the message which included addicting Americans to consumerism and self indulgence and “image” distracting them from what really matters. We’ve become a bunch of consumer idiots with flat screens, teams, vapid pop music, obsession with cars, clothes, technology toys who will go into debt for life to be cool.

Wall street figured out that betting is a way to make oodles of money when you bet with other people’s money, leverage it enormously, and then cheat, use insider tricks and game the system. When they got into trouble with the musical chair nonsense they got their shills in congress to cover their bad bets and went on with more of the same.

We are not learning and we are going down.
And the killing goes on.

U.S. rep to OAS criticized Zalaya for returning to Honduras. Always thought that coup had a wink from the U.S.

Mornin’, BT, TCU

In the vid from American Independent Gaffney looks like he’s talking to 3 people at the back of the room. Sure wasn’t a sellout crowd for this event.

US rep has to feel lonely with all those lefties.

It doesn’t take much to disrupt and derail any agenda for progressive change. The media is have a ball with all the dissent from the nuts – it makes good blather for their “news” and feeds into their balance meme.

20% balances 70% only in the MSM the GOP is confusing the Common Man with the worse of the Mob the dregs they fear. They have become what they manipulate they have become their own fear.

There are hundreds of these loons each of whom comes out with fantasy BS on a daily basis. We are trying to respond each of these stupid attacks individually while those who are supposed to be our leaders in congress are busy trying to collect as much money as they can to sell us out.

Bush’s legacy they lost almost all South America now they are trying to win back one I hope they lose….again.

How dare they deny the U.S. Monroe Doctrine. Ungrateful wretches, after all the U.S. has done for them, like all the overthrows of legitimate govts the U.S. has caused.

O drawing a line in the sand with Honduras. Kinda like Reagan’s war on Grenada.

And to think these are the same people who believe Saddam Hussein attacked America on 9/11/01! Unfreakingbelievable.

Honduras is on the front page of most non-US media sites. Ya gotta search for it at NYT or CNN. Imagine that.

Ah but now we have 8 years of every GOP idea being proven wrong and the military might of America discredited
thanks to Bush. I think South America has a good chance of remaining free now:)

You probably don’t know this, because it was never reported in our left-wing media,
but Mohamed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague.

The MSM can’t let America see another GOP failure?

Oh no! Another sad tragedy! I am watching Microsoft/General Electric MSNBC Tee Vee. Actually I have the sound off and I am listen to the Rolling Stones. But if I read the captions correctly Killer Joe Scarbroough is not there today because he has back surgery. Oh please, Doctors do not hurt him too much. Give him all the pain killers that he needs.

Also give him a discount on the cost of his care, because his reporting on Corporate Health Care has been so brilliant. He does have health insurance From General Electric I hope. GE is rich because their nuclear power plants are very profitable. Especially consdering how taxpayers generously pays for them. I wonder if GE helped Iran’s nuclear program?

We are not surprised.

Scott Ritter’s up next on democracynow. Gonna talk about the Iran situation.

Isn’t that a discredited Cheney / Neocon story are you trying for snark?

I hope so, but the U.S. reaction to Honduras is pretty grim. Last speaker said that if the U.S. did an embargo, the coup would collapse, as 85% of Honduran trade is with the U.S. Of course, United Fruits would object, so that’s a nonstarter.

/s

Nukes are only profitable as long as they don’t pay the true cost for an accident the GOP has no problem sticking tax payers with that bill after all nobody could have anticipated.
(just us lefties)

My late friend Ted thought that in the normal course of doing business there should have been some contact between al Qaeda & all the Arab states, just by way of their keeping track of what the organization was doing. Know your enemy kind of stuff. Of course, we now know even that didn’t happen.

I hope so too Hispanics will not like if we do nothing and then things get worse.

Any product of United Fruit deserves to be boycotted.

Is United Fruit the new name for the GOP?

I’m re-reading the first part of Fisk’s The Great War for Civilisation for his interviews with bin Laden in the 90s. Other than some scattered support the Arabs apparently didn’t want anything to do with him.

I think you’re thinking of Lead Ass Fruitcakes.

Won’t do much good unless it’s organized.

That was AFTER the Soviets left Afghanistan. At that point the Saudis realized how dangerous he was and didn’t want anything else to do with him. They revoked his passport at some point.

True of any boycott effort. The most successful one I remember is Chavez’s boycott of Gallo. Damn near put ‘em out of business.

Reagan’s war on Grenada

It enjoyed broad public support in the United States as well as among segments of the people of Grenada. October 25 is a national holiday in Grenada, called Thanksgiving Day, to commemorate this event.

That was while he was in Sudan and had to beat feet to Afghanistan. The Arab force he put together to fight the Russians became the core of Al Queda. Lot of Algerians and Lebanese.

Link? If you haven’t noticed we’re real big on supplying sources here.

scu, left you something downstairs, I think you’ll get a kick

off to work, see all alter

The leader of Grenada that the U.S. overthrew was a real kook. Nonetheless that doesn’t make it U.S. business. Reagan did it to divert attention from the Marine disaster in Lebanon. Worked like a charm.

Checking now have fun Perris

Righto. Been awhile since I did the reading on the subject, so facts start to fade.

I don’t think he was a kook. He was a committed leftist. What was kooky about him? Read up on The New jewel Movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada

With attribution – Magnuson, Ed (November 21, 1983), “Getting Back to Normal”, Time, http://www.time.com/time/magaz…..-1,00.html

The removal of Bishop, who was very popular in the country, led to demonstrations in various parts of the country. The demonstrations grew to a point where Bishop was eventually freed by them. In unclear circumstances, Bishop made his way to the army headquarters. Eventually a military force from elsewhere in Grenada arrived at the army headquarters and fighting broke out. Many civilians died. At the end of the fighting, Bishop and seven others including government ministers, one of whom was pregnant were lined up in a courtyard against a wall for a considerable period of time. They, including the pregnant Creft who begged for her life and that of her unborn child, were afterwards murdered by a ‘firing squad’.

The United States of AmeraMexaCanada.

After the revolution, the NJM described itself as a Marxist Leninist Vanguard Party. The party did not consider itself to be a communist party because it did not consider that either the NJM or Grenada had reached a level of development where that was possible within their political doctrine. The NJM aspired to reach a point where a communist party could be formed and pursued policies that end. The NJM considered itself to be not ready due to the party not being led by a proletarian class and due to the low level of education in Marxist Leninist politics.

Yeah the American public is so easily manipulated by the corporate media. They are shown a bright shiny object and their heads swivel in unison.

Time is known as such a lefty rag. /s

????? I don’t really care one way or the other, I just thought I’d contribute something I read – are there approved FDL sources I should know about ?????

His wiki does not make him seem so popular or such a nice guy. But I also have a vague memory from Overthrow by Kinzer that there was some sort of religious nuttiness.

For the life of me I can’t imagine why any modern leftist organization would associate itself with Leninist thought.

I like Canamerimex better.

Good morning all. Thanks for the post BT.

I think the good news in all this reich-wing insanity is that it is coming out of the closets where it hid during the Reagan feel-good years and after. My guess is that it won’t be long before there will be new college political science courses in the politics of bat shit crazy. Shine a light on these cockroaches.

Right, the GOP and the neo-cons have a monopoly on Leninist thought.

It’s not a matter of “approved” sources. I was noting that some portions of the piece were taken from a rag known to lean towards the right and militarism. Time is not known for its objectivity. Back in the 50s and 60s there was a saying, “Life, for people who can’t read. Time, for people who can’t think.”

I don’t put too much credence to labels. Bishop was opposed to the influence of corporations and oppression of the people of the Caribbean. Colonialism really worked over the people of the Caribbean and he was correct in his anti corporatism.

Obviously, the Cubans supported his any corporate agenda as did the USSR. So the NJM became fodder for the anti communism of Ronald Regan. That Regan went after him is almost evidence that Bishop was a good guy.

He was an eloquent speaker and I heard several of his speeches.

They are still talking about some Black kid getting in a fight with a white kid and people cheered?
I got in a fight with a white kid in high school a junior after leaving the Principle’s office all the White Kids on Senior Hall stood and cheered.
Drudge and Rush don’t realize probably because I bet they never fought that its not race but rather its a popularity contest who gets the cheers in a fight after all over 20 years ago in Illinois a not that popular brown kid could get cheers from whites.
If anything race relations have gotten better not worse since then. Except of course in GOP minds.

I am going to bet that you were no paying attention at the time and were not listening to Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman who has reported extensively on Bishop. Your political consciousness seems to be evolving and at the time you were working down on Wall Street in the belly of the beast if I recall correctly.

SD gave the snark tag /s at the end of what he said which means he is joking

I think the GOP wants to reach Mom votes by making them worried the mean black kids will hurt their kids.
This is a 70’s – 80’s play book thing problem is its been 30 years most Moms know kids can get along.
Drudge and Rush would know this if they had kids/spawn.

Gosh, I am glad I kept reading through the comments and saw the snark tag! I did not want to be swimming through my morning with that falsehood stuck in my mind! Now, I am chuckling.

Do not mess with Texas trolls. It is a whole other country of bragging, bully, and stupid trolls.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak: 4346

US KIA Afghanistan: 852

US MBS 2009: 33,333

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

Maybe…but please don’t generalize toooo much.;))