Mmmmm-mmmm, fresh sausage!
Senate liberals are insisting on generous subsidies for private insurance coverage and a "public option" of government-run insurance. Conservatives, fearful of rising government costs and new federal programs, prefer private insurance cooperatives.
Each compromise Baucus makes with liberals is likely to add to the roughly $800 billion the legislation will cost over 10 years, undermining the deficit reduction that is its chief selling point.
Such clashes promise to play out through hours of debate and votes. Democrats such as Kent Conrad of North Dakota, a fiscal hawk, will battle to preserve the private insurance cooperatives he designed as a substitute for a government-run plan. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., who loathes the co-ops, will wage an all-out fight to include a public option.
Kent Conrad: still a choad.
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Congrats guys for getting heavily referenced yesterday on the Rachel Maddow Show!! Keep up the great work!
Well if there a hundred comprises that should bring us about even with the completely unpaid for and useless Iraq war
Oo! Oo! I know! Let’s have private insurance companies cover Iraqi’s and the US Gov cover US citizens.
That makes about as much sense as what Jay says.
Good morning. Health care debate gives me heebie jeebies.
Why is John McCain on my TV? Yep, he wants more troops. Loves a little war.
Thank God he is not my Pres…arguing with Maggie.
Jay didn’t say that. That’s a quote from the “journalist” at the link.
While I often don’t trust his motives, Rockefeller is often decent on healthcare issues, and so far he’s been fine through this debate. His family must not be invested in health insurance companies, or something.
We’ll see what he does though when the final votes happen.
Christy pointed out last week that his stance is based in his years as a VISTA volunteer in WV where he saw hard working people with no health care. Consequently, he saw a great amount of suffering, especially children.
Mornin’, BT, pups
I’m gonna wait until something goes to floor for a vote.
A little reality check from the comic section.
Thanks. And re-reading now I see my suggestion doesn’t make sense anyway, because the current bills are making the health insurance company stocks go up.
Re: Kent Conrad & his co-ops
We tried co-ops already. No, really we did! That was the primary delivery mechanism for health care up until WWII. It didn’t work very well, and was abandoned after WWII because it just didn’t work. Conrad wants to take us back to a system that didn’t work so his buddies in the current insurance industry don’t have to face real competition.
Part of the problem with co-ops is that they will be state-by-state, which guarantees that we won’t have enough people in any one co-op to force competition (Texas alone has about 6 million uninsured right now, and that is the largest pool of uninsured, so forget the minimum requirement of 12 million to make ‘em competitive). It’s just a method to try and pretend they are doing something without having to actually do what they are being paid to (work in OUR interests, that is).
Cruising the online rags I came across Not New, Never Easy.
Meanwhile, the political geniuses in the D.C. Democratic Industrial Complex
don’t want to ruffle Chuck Grassley’s preening feathers:
Incumbent Protection Racket works regardless of party. I wouldn’t be surprised if the DLC raised money for moderate Rethugs.
If one pieces together the things that Grassley has said over the past few months one thing is clear.. Dementia has set in. A good candidate with an adequate budget can defeat him.
Good Morning Blue Texan and Firedogs,
a good indication that Senator Rockefeller is doing the right thing -
disgraced hospital exec Rick Scott and CPR have launched “death star” ads against him
linkage
Good grief, cbl2, what have you done?
a choad indeed
c’mon Kent, dont ya know, Karen passed a note to Max in study hall – co-ops are unkewl
where in the hell did everybody go ?
What is a choad?
sadly, the screen name threadkiller has already been taken :D
At first I thought everyone went to your link, but for this long?
punk ass bitch, okay, played punk ass bitch
we’re Left Behind !
Sheesh. I just turned on the tv, wondering if some catastrophy occured. Nope. Just Joe.
Take it easy, CBL. Good morning all.
Hi honey. Just your girl and me.
I’m waiting for someone to come on and say, This is not just a social site, you know.
ah geez, demi’s been raptured as well
any lurkers left ? y’all really don’t want me alone in here. I’m gonna start riflin’ through your stuff any second, where did Pacha hide the liquor cabinet key ? :D
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
No US KIA in Irak or Afghanistan yesterday. I don’t have the figures for those murdered by spreadsheet here at home. Gonna hafta work on that.
US KIA Irak: 4346
US KIA Afghanistan: 842
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
morning baby, how ya feelin’ ?
– honey, make us girls some eggs will ya ?
I found this story to be one of the more comical things I have seen
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..-This-Game
I wonder if there is a backdoor problem. When I tried to check Jim’s link, the ‘puter got stuck. Maybe other people somehow got locked out.
cbl, did you brush your teeth this am yet? Just wondering if it’s our breath.
With bacon, please?
Very OT but funny:
I was just watching the clip of Tom DeLay dancing (end clip on the Daily Show). My five year old came in and said, “That is just awful! That is just bad! That is inappropriate that a man got on tv and danced like that. I think I feel sick. Mom, why did he even think he could do something like that? That poor woman who had to dance with him. Uhgg! What kind of pants was he wearing? They were wrong. Something about his dancing makes me not hungry for breakfast. Dancing will never be the same again – in a bad way. I have to rub THAT out of my eyes”
This is from a kid who tries to never be critical and looks for the “best” in any situation. Outtah the mouth of babes.
sorry I missed you tiger man,
– that would be 123 americans a day
2739 have declared bankruptcy due to medical expenses in the last 24 hours
I’ve been here all along but really don’t have anything to add to the health care debacle. I didn’t get any takers on the wars, sooo…
Where’d you get that figure? I’ll bookmark it and add that figure to my daily tally. You betch’um, Red Ryder.
Can do. demi too. Also.
Feel like hammered shit.
Hysterical. You’ve raised a brilliant kid.
Actually, my son made scrambled eggs for breakfast. He needed the egg shells for a science experiment.
LOL Too funny
sadly, 45,000 deaths per year divided by 365
1,000,000 bankruptcies divided by . . .
I use the families usa/clock is ticking figures
Thanks. After I’ve done a little simple math I’ll come back and update my tally on whatever thread I catch.
Namaste
I’m glad I’m not the only one sick to death of the health care debate. Wake me up when someone has something new to say. Umkay?
oh jeebus klynn – too damn funny. I’m with your five year old. that is what fast forward is for. I haven’t seen it and don’t want to see it. I had enough trouble with the hot tub photoshops. I am certain it would be one of those moments where I’d be embarassed to belong to the same species
demi, SouthernDragon & cbl2,
The wordless responses were the best, “Ugh! Ohh! Eww! Ugh!” Accompanied by his face crinkling up, were simply priceless. He actually looked like he was in serious pain. Wish I had it on video.
Would make a great youtube.
This isn’t just a social site, you know. *g*
Sorry my link got to you. I tried to link the clip from the Daily Show.
ah but darlin’ it’s about to get down to the nut cuttin’, what everyone has worked so hard for
and all that we’ve been reading and absorbing these past few months are going to inform what we see and hear from those chambers like we’ve never seen before. no more scratchin’ our heads about someone’s vote, we’ll know damn good and well why -
shorter cbl
Hardee har har.
You want some eggs?
Already had my granola. Just procrastinating the morning cleaning of the horses’ stalls…
Addition to the daily tally:
US MBS 2009: 32,595