Professor Shane O’Mara at Trinity College Institute of Neuroscience in Dublin has written an article which has caught the attention of the mainstream media. Pamela Hess at Associated Press described Prof. O’Mara’s article,”Torturing the Brain: On the folk psychology and folk neurobiology motivating ‘enhanced and coercive interrogation techniques’” (PDF), as showing that the CIA’s “severe interrogation techniques appear based on… a layman’s idea of how the brain works as opposed to science-based understanding of memory and cognitive function.” (Bmaz also reported on this.)
What neither Ms. Hess nor Professor O’Mara apparently realized is that in conducting his research for his review on how the CIA’s “enhanced interrogation techniques” caused debilitating damage to the brain and nervous system — producing confabulation more readily than information — one of the scientific papers O’Mara relied upon was itself produced by a CIA researcher. Such close participation between CIA and military researchers and the world of stress research adds a sinister dimension to the production of the OLC memos, which Professor O’Mara otherwise believes were based on naive “folk” beliefs and a faulty neuropsychobiological model.
But this is not the case. The CIA was well-aware of the type of research he cites — because it was a major contributor to such research!
In an article posted at The Public Record last week, CIA Experiments on US Soldiers Linked to Torture Program (later picked up by Truthout), I showed how a Yale psychiatrist, and researcher for the National Center for Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, had received hundreds of thousands of dollars to do research on the psychological and physiological effects of stress produced by SERE techniques. The researcher, Charles A. Morgan, III, has identified himself, in certain settings, as a CIA behavioral scientist.
(SERE stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape, and is the name for the military survival schools that provide select members of the armed forces with “stress inoculation” training by subjecting them to a reduced amount of torture and captivity. The CIA’s EITs were famously reverse-engineered by SERE psychologists from the techniques utilized during SERE training.)
In the AP article, Hess writes, “A 2006 Intelligence Science Board report on interrogation also noted possible negative effects of certain methods.” But Hess doesn’t mention, nor does she likely know, that one of the primary members on the ISB board that produced the report was the same Dr. Morgan.
… in the Information Science Board (ISB) document, Educing Information [PDF] — which was heavily drawn upon by President Obama’s task force on interrogations, for recommendations on the interrogations issue — Dr. Morgan is identified as a member of the 11-person “Government Experts Committee,” and listed as affiliated with the Intelligence Technology Innovation Center (ITIC). According to Intelligence Online, ITIC is “a research organization under the CIA’s authority,” which “answers directly to the CIA’s Science and Technology directorate.”
Research on SERE Techniques and the OLC Memos
The “CIA Experiments” article described some of the research Dr. Morgan and his associates have conducted using SERE trainees, many of them Special Forces personnel. (Professor O’Hara cites one of Morgan’s articles himself — see footnote 9 to his paper.) In a June 2000 article, “Assessment of Humans Experiencing Uncontrollable Stress: The SERE Course,” in Special Warfare (PDF), Morgan and his Special Operations psychologist co-author cite “recorded changes in cortisol levels” among individuals subjected to SERE techniques as “some of the greatest ever documented in humans.” As Professor O’Mara notes in his own essay, a “substantial increase in cortisol levels has a deleterious effect on memory.” The same article described testosterone levels falling in male subjects to below castration levels.
Another article by Morgan and his team looked at dissociative psychological effects of SERE techniques upon human subjects. (Dissociation produces symptoms such as depersonalization, derealization, psychic or emotional numbing, and general cognitive confusion.)
RESULTS: In study 1, 96% of subjects reported dissociative symptoms in response to acute stress. Total scores, as well as individual item scores, on the dissociation scale were significantly lower in Special Forces soldiers compared to general infantry troops. In study 2, 42% of subjects reported dissociative symptoms before stress and 96% reported them after acute stress.
Professor O’Mara’s essay is an excellent brief review of the relevant literature on stress, as it pertains to the kinds of torture conducted by the CIA, and its effects upon memory, and the presumed ability to produce accurate information. It easily deserves wide dissemination. But evidence of CIA participation in the very research that was suppressed in the OLC memos shows that the conclusions drawn in the torture memos were not simply due to “bad faith” lawyering. As I wrote in my original article:
The frenzied search for data on waterboarding, sleep deprivation, isolation, confinement in a small box, etc., to submit to OLC attorneys making legal determinations on whether proposed interrogation techniques constituted torture, was a kabuki organized by the CIA. The OLC attorneys involved — John Yoo, Stephen Bradbury, Jay Bybee, and others — were witting or unwitting partners in suppression of CIA research on torture (as future investigations will disclose). Given the participation of members of the Office of the Vice President, particularly David Addington and Vice President Cheney himself, in the promulgation of the torture program, and the composition of the memos, it seems likely they were also involved in the suppression of this material. As a result, the memos produced authorizing the “enhanced interrogation techniques” were composed as the result of fraud and bad faith, the result of a criminal conspiracy to implement illegal torture techniques.
In this earlier article, I had taken Dr. Morgan at his word, as reported in a 2007 New York Times article, that he was incredulous at how SERE techniques could have migrated over to the torture program. But, as I recently discovered (H/T to fellow psychologist Brad Olson), the CIA scientist had a different take on the uses of SERE research in an essay in the 2006 book, Military Psychology, Clinical and Operational Applications (p. 252):
The SERE platform offers a unique opportunity to evaluate old and new assessment techniques under conditions that are more realistic than traditional laboratories….
The SERE training environment affords the military services the opportunity to collaborate with various other government agencies in exploring old and new techniques in gathering human intelligence.
The O’Mara essay and AP article appear only a few weeks after Physicians for Human Rights released a “white paper” highlighting evidence of illegal human experimentation on U.S.-held “terrorism” prisoners undergoing torture. The allegations of torture experimentation are consistent with reports of CIA experimentation upon Abu Zubaydah, and of the Pentagon running an interrogation “Battle Lab” at Guantanamo. In his book, Oath Betrayed: America’s Torture Doctors, bioethicist Steven Miles calls Mohammed al-Khatani’s interrogation an experiment: “The peculiar content and structure of this document makes sense if it is the log of research on coercive interrogation….” (p. 176).
Experimentation upon subjects to further “scientific” understanding of the effects of torture is also not new. In the 1950s, the CIA and Pentagon funded top psychologists and psychiatrists in research upon the effects of SERE training. These researchers established a protocol for psychological torture, based on torture tactics that induced “debility, dependency, and dread.” (See West LJ., Medical and psychiatric considerations in survival training. In: Report of the Special Study Group on Survival Training (AFR 190 16). Lackland Air Force Base, Tex: Air Force Personnel and Training Research Centers; 1956.) This protocol was later incorporated into an early 1960s CIA (KUBARK) interrogation manual.
It is not enough to understand what research the Office of Legal Counsel attorneys failed to include in their infamous torture memos. One must understand why this research was not included, and who was involved in that. The evidence points to a deliberate attempt to implement and then hide a torture program, whose very basis for existence may have been, in part, to study the effects of torture upon involuntary subjects, in order to implement (or hide) an updated protocol for coercive interrogation. Only a full, wide-ranging, and open investigation — including not only politicians, academics, lawyers, and blue-ribbon, distinguished experts, but representatives of human rights organizations, church and labor leaders, and other important societal participants — will, given full subpoena power, be able to get to the bottom of this sinister program that seized hold of the governmental apparatus, and steered it towards brutality and a catastrophic breakdown of law.
“For the Record”
Dr. Morgan has left a comment about the original article at The Public Record. In it, he criticizes the story as “inaccurate and misleading.” He offers no examples of the purported inaccuracies, but does state:
The research conducted by our research team at the National Center for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is not, and never has been, conducted for any other purpose than to help us understand the pathophysiology of stress disorders and we might better help in the treatment of veterans. Our research on PTSD and our studies of stress in healthy soldiers began in the 1990s – long before 2001 and the Bush Administration’s policies. We will continue to investigate how we might better help individuals who suffer from trauma related disorders.
I will answer Dr. Morgan’s comment at greater length in the very near future, but suffice it to say that nothing said in my articles, including this one, was untrue or misrepresented the facts. I take Dr. Morgan’s statement as a denial that his research for the National Center for PTSD was meant for purposes of conducting torture.



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It is not enough to understand what research the Office of Legal Counsel attorneys failed to include in their infamous torture memos. One must understand why this research was not included, and who was involved in that. The evidence points to a deliberate attempt to implement and then hide a torture program, whose very basis for existence may have been, in part, to study the effects of torture upon involuntary subjects, in order to implement (or hide) an updated protocol for coercive interrogation. Only a full, wide-ranging, and open investigation –
I call Dr. Mengele for the defense…..
everyone was aware of this, and everyone was aware the information we gather with torture is less actionable
and everyone was aware we would create more enemies and make it impossible to be seen as benefactors
no
the purpose was to gather and create false information, we even have direct testimony from those involved in interrogation where they said;
“we told them there was no al qaeda link, they came back cand told us to get the link anyway”
that;s not an exact quote but that was the content
that was the purpose and there were others
the purpose of a torture program is never to gather information, it’s to create fear, it’s to create unrest
once a government would do it thinking that fear would protect them against uprising however ther reverse was true, that fear created the uprising and we learned that
the purpose of this program was to create unrest and of this there is no doubt since we also know they were told this would be the result
I want to make another point;
the administration did not want to leave IRaq, they wanted to privitise the oil fields, you cannot privitise their national assets if you leave them to their own government, you have to occupy their land and set the stage for private enterprise to get their foot hold
leaving was the last thing they wanted to do and they couldn’t stay if they enjoyed success
we remember the reports where bush said he was going to make it so the next president could not leave Iraq
and bush accomplished that purpose
remember when we were supposed to be leaving in “3 months, 6 months, I doubt a year?”
hehe
that was when leaving meant success, they chaged that immediatly
then it became;
“success is staying”
and they started building their “embasy” bigger then the vatican
when did the tide turn, when “winning means we can stay” instead of “winning means we can leave”
when did that happen?
OT, but if you’re not watching Keith you’re missing Tom DeLay doing the cha-cha to “Wild Thing.” It’s very, very special…
Cheney Addington, Yoo and many others have committed War Crimes in oh so many ways! I can only hope that they will be brought to justice and serve long terms in jail for what they did, authorized or otherwise had a part in. They decimated our Constitution, treaties and many US laws against such conduct. I will not be happy until each and everyone is in prison serving long terms for dragging our country to the DARK SIDE something we had decided over two hundred years ago to forgo when George Washington forbade his soldiers from torturing the British when they were torturing our POWS!!
Disclaimer I am Reading “The Dark side” so I guess I am a bit disgusted in what I have been reading. I am also a VET and I sure didn’t serve our country to have us act so cravenly!!
Thanks for the post Jeff Kaye !! I do think all of this must see the light of day, although I do have a brother in law who says “torture saved my ass”. Of course we had a heated discussion about it…
I heard that was coming, and thanks to passable hand-eye coordination, and the speed of my remote, “Wild Thing” remains an untainted song in jayt-world.
Eli is upstairs!
Glenn Beck Finally Goes Too Far!
If everyone was aware of the CIA research into SERE, why am I the only one to mention it?
You appear upset because I have not highlighted the use of torture to produce false confessions. I said “in part” in the article because I am very much aware of the other uses of torture. Your insistence that this was the only reason does not explain, for instance, why torture persisted well after the invasion of Iraq commenced.
It is very important to point out, as you do, the “false confessions” issue. But it is not the whole story.
Naahaa he is a crappy dancer. dances with his right foot /s.I hope he gets booted!! Although his partner is a knock out and a good dancer, I feel bad for her to be partnered with such a duufoaos..
Me too It have many fond memories of “Wild Thing” in my teen years… Delayed couldn’t fuck up that memory for me…
Looks like this excellent article shoots down the crappy, politically-created, non-existent-in-law “good faith defense.” Great post and I’m looking forward to where this goes — for any potential prosecutions (at least in theory) and for the Dr. Mengele angle.
Thanks for you work on this.
rOB
jeff, sorry if you got the wrong idea from my post, I’m just frustrated
before we even found out about the sere program we were told the results were not actionable, we were told the purpose was to get false information and were were told the purpose is to create unrest
and then we found out about the sere program as if it gave us ground breaking information
it gave us more information that confirmed what we were told but it didn’t give us new information
and ya, I guess I wanted you to say another purpose was to get false information
don’t mind my style, I just got off the tennis court and am filled with adrenalin
Was some of the underlying reason, when the southern white wing ruled, was the fear of Muslims (The other brown people) or racism of a different color.
Thinking back to how they were portrayed as almost a super deranged race, swinging those swords around, willing to kill for less than nothing.
Whose deranged in the end?
Thanks. I think there are good, purely legal reasons to shoot down the “good faith” defense. But it strikes me that this kind of info is of another category entirely, and one that screams for further investigation, irregardless of how the prosecutions issue goes.
I’ll secretly admit here, way down in EPU land, that “Wild Thing” has always been one of my favorites… along with “Lola.”
Jeff, I’ve been looking forward to this since last night when you mentioned you’d cover it on bmaz’ thread.
Excellent work. So sad that our government has ever gotten to this place.
Your article is not getting enough attention because it was slotted during Keith and Rachel. Can you put it up on Seminal?
You have such an important voice.
Excellent, Jeff, as always. I certainly look forward to your response to Dr. Morgan. Your persistence, perseverance and passion are remarkable.
Former CIA Inspector Confirms BBC Torture
Popular Science Terror suspects and torture: former CIA inspector general confirms … – 19 hours ago
The former CIA inspector general, John Helgerson, has confirmed that the Bush administration authorised the CIA to use a harsh interrogation method on …BBC News – 375 related articles »
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Former CIA Inspector General Confirms BBC Torture Report
By Hilary Andersson
September 22, 2009 “BBC” Sept 21, 2009 — The former CIA inspector general, John Helgerson, has confirmed that the Bush administration authorised the CIA to use a harsh interrogation method on terror suspect Abu Zubaydah before written legal clearance was given.
This is politically explosive, because the Bush administration has always claimed that it used harsh interrogation techniques such as waterboarding only after government lawyers had determined they did not amount to torture.
John Helgerson, who has spoken now that his classified investigation into the CIA interrogation programme has been released, made his comments in a recent interview with Der Spiegel magazine.
In the interview the reporter stated that Abu Zubaydah had been subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques”, as practices such as waterboarding are known, before August 1, 2002. “Did the lawyer who signed the memorandum simply authorise a technique months after this technique had already been applied ?” the reporter asked Helgerson..
“You are basically right” said Helgerson. “There was some legal advice given orally to the CIA that had then been followed up by memorandums months later”.===================(See above link address @ 18)
Well, I consider watching Delay prance around to be pretty damn torturous…Too much for my memory banks..I’m in imminent danger of confabulating…watching the Hammer get nailed on the dance floor…
I didn’t realize I could do that, but will certainly consider doing so.
And Gitcheegumee, that’s huge news re Helgerson’s admission. The memos came “months” later, so we’re looking at waterboarding probably about May, which is about when AZ said the torture got worse. I’m sure EW and others will be chewing this up! I know Jason Leopold reported the earlier torture approval as a strong probability a week or two ago.
Jeff, I thought it was pretty impressive, too, considering a lot of the emptywheel threads discussing the torture timelines .
Sorry the link didn’t seem to work,but the BBC article is really worth a look. I just posted a snippet.
I wasn’t sure if it had been posted elsewhere here,yet.
Former CIA agent John Kiriakou, who led the team that captured Abu Zubaydah and was monitoring the cable traffic on his interrogation from CIA headquarters, told Panorama the suspect was waterboarded as early as May or June of that year.
The controversial government legal opinion that determined waterboarding was not torture was written in August of that year.
The date of Abu Zubaydah’s waterboarding is a closely guarded secret that no second source would confirm at the time.
John Helgerson, who has spoken now that his classified investigation into the CIA interrogation programme has been released, made his comments in a recent interview with Der Spiegel magazine.
In the interview the reporter stated that Abu Zubaydah had been subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques”, as practices such as waterboarding are known, before August 1, 2002. “Did the lawyer who signed the memorandum simply authorise a technique months after this technique had already been applied ?” the reporter asked Helgerson..
“You are basically right” said Helgerson. “There was some legal advice given orally to the CIA that had then been followed up by memorandums months later”.====================BBC see#18 link address
“You are basically right…”
That’s an interesting cat out of the bag, eh?
Jeff:
My own knowledge of psych related topics comes out of learning and memory (related to teaching and learning). Anyone with even a passing acquaintance with that material pretty much knows that stressed out kids (and adults) don’t process information well, nor do they remember.
Any first or second grade teacher worth a damn can pretty well point out which kids in their classes need some ’stress reduction’ so their recall improves. So seeing this all sanctified with government acronyms makes me somewhat irritable. It’s a safe bet all those military contractors were making a damn sight more than your local teachers. And evidently, knew less about the effects of stress on learning and memory, the way that I read your post.
Good grief.
The close monitoring of the torture combined with constant modifications to the torture technique make it look to a non-scientist as if they were experimenting to get the best technique. The name Mengele comes to mind.
Goodness, any case addressing torture right now will hopefully be reading at the Lake. Between EW, bmaz and yourself, we are getting a clear understanding of “intent” and “contempt”.
As I read this Jeff, I could not help but think about this post by Spencer back in May.
Thank you for your efforts on a difficult subject. Look forward to your response to Dr. Morgan.
Thanks, Jeff, especially for pointing out that the CIA doctors were more involved than Professor O’Mara may have thought. His references to ‘folk’ theories I think is rather addressing the fact that assertions that these techniques work for the purpose described, gathering intelligence, are not consistent with current brain theory.
I’m once again disappointed (but not surprised) that no discussion focussed on strictly deprivation techniques, since these were applied to a wider group than waterboarding. There are no hypercapnia or hypoxia antecedents to the disorders produced by those techniques to fall back on in relating torture to studies of confabulation, which have almost all (that I can tell, and I would welcome references to the contrary if you have them) been done on people with lesions from strokes (the studies cite subjects who have other causes, but seem to usually end up concentrating on people who have had ruptures or surgery on their anterior communicating arteries).
My guess is that while studies on the effects of isolation might show deficits in function in the same regions in fMRI, the absence of specific, focal lesions might make them harder to detect or show direct causality. Many of the precursors to the memory disorders mentioned by Prof. O’Mara, though, are similarly generalized, e.g. those having to do with changes in neurotransmitter levels due to cortisol and catecholamines. Microscopic level changes won’t be that easy to assess, but they are odds on more likely (there are studies in adolescent animals showing deprivation causes distruptions in the formation of filipodia and dendritic spines) e.g. loss of synapses would be hard to detect, and studies involving intrinsic plasticity (a big favorite of mine), which would be even more microscopic (redistribution or loss of ion channels) are even further away from possibility right now. (this is all guessing, but I haven’t found any such studies, and most of the studies on the microscopic stuff is necessarily on animals, not people).
However, something must account for those prisoners who show a wide range of symptoms but have never experienced the high stress levels and hypoxia of waterboarding, just the slow steady degeneration of extreme isolation. After all, people who are hallucinating and incoherent to the point of not being fit to stand trial do have something wrong with them. The net result of a combination of lack of good ways to measure some forms of neural degeneration in torture victims, and the very, very deep association of torture with acute pain episodes, is to miss many victims, isn’t it? All the more reason for supporting the International Covenant for Protecting all Persons from Enforced Disappearance, so that such isolation, incommunicado detention, and deliberate creation of places beyond the law won’t slip through the cracks as mere precursors to be noticed only if the prisoner subequently ends up on the rack or dead.
[Sorry for the rambling]
The Morgan et al article from Special Warfare, referenced in the post, notes the issue of variability of responses to “uncontrollable stress” by SERE subjects.
Of course, O’Mara is correct about the “folk” psychology aspect, re its applicability to what we know about brain functioning. My only point is that the CIA and OLC were not succumbing to “folk” psychology, and had in fact been very active in researching the physiology of stress. No, it was a deliberate obfuscation on their part.
Deliberate obfuscation or subordination of facts that they knew cold in order to please their masters? Gerald Gray has gone round after round with (his friend) Phil Zimbardo over whether or not those devising the Geoffrey Miller patented interrogation program at Abu Ghraib was a deliberate application of the Stanford Prison Experiment — a deliberate descent of the Lord of the Flies as it were. He contends that Phil Zimbardo knows it and sometimes even says it, but most of the time will not step over a line he has drawn for himself beyond which he would be cut off from his Pentagon-based funding and resources.
Jeff, what are the possibilities of joint research done with other governments?
I would agree with Gray, in general. I don’t know if in particular I think the experiment was to implement the Stanford Prison Experiment. If our hypotheses is correct and there were experiments — and I say hypotheses, because full, direct proof is lacking, only strong circumstantial and inferential evidence — it seems possible there was more than one “experiment” going on. The main experiment appears to be around how and to what degree the “physical” means of torture, e.g., waterboard, stress positions, “manhandling”, inducing hypothermia, etc., could be integrated into the KUBARK version of “psychological” torture, e.g., isolation, sensory deprivation or overload, sleep deprivation, stress positions. The latter were used as part of SERE for decades, but represent the subset of techniques drawn out by the CIA in the late 50s-early 60s and incorporated into the KUBARK manual. See my reference to 1950s research in the article above.
I think it’s very likely there was research in conjunction with other governments. It’s documented it occurred in the past, particularly with Canada and Britain. I presume the same occurred again. This doesn’t mean the cooperation was not without its internal stresses, such as parochialism, competition, national policy or political differences, etc.
Anyone interested could read the well-known story of the Canadians D. O. Hebb, or Ewen Cameron (as Hebb rolls over in his grave for linking the two), or of research at Britain’s Porton Down facility.
Thanks for the resources. Part of my reason for asking was due to an article I read. I also read this.
If any of this is true, I can see why a number of docs ended up misssing.