I never thought I’d write this, but I’m starting to miss Bill Kristol.
It’s true that Bush didn’t personally formulate the surge, or craft the bailout. But he was, well, the decider, and if he takes the blame — rightly — for what Donald Rumsfeld wrought, then he should get credit for Gen. David Petraeus’s successes in Iraq, and for blessing the sweeping decisions that Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke made in last September’s desperate weeks.
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This is not a blueprint that future presidents will want to follow. But the next time an Oval Office occupant sees his popularity dissolve and his ambitions turn to dust, he can take comfort from Bush’s example. It suggests that it’s possible to become a good president even — or especially — when you can no longer hope to be a great one.
Put another way, if I get totally wasted on smack, pass out on the couch with a lit cigarette and set the house on fire, but am shaken out of my drug-induced stupor by the billowing smoke in time for me to pull one of my children out of the conflagration — that makes me a "good" parent not a "great" one.
Some sliding scale! And I thought conservatives opposed affirmative action.
George W. Bush’s last minute extra credit work pulled his GPA up to a solid D-. Pass!
Yeah, OK, so Bush fucked up everything he touched, but at least he had the good sense to scramble around at the very last minute while spending lots of lives and money to avert a complete zombies-roaming-the-streets type of disaster. In conclusion, Bush was a good president.
One wonders how much longer the Times will expose itself to this kind of ridicule.
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Ever notice that the NY Times won’t let anyone comment on the pieces they run? A piece of my mind would have been in order….
I’ve seen some zombies.
“…he should get credit for Gen. David Petraeus’s successes in Iraq, and for blessing the sweeping decisions that Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke made in last September’s desperate weeks…”
Say what?
“Bush a good president.”In a Parallell universe
This shit-for-brains motherfucker thinks 4345 US KIA in the shithole formerly known as Irak is a success? I don’t even want to think what failure looks like to this moron.
An interesting fantasy and plays well with the base.
One wonders how much longer the Times will expose itself to this kind of ridicule.
Until someone tears the publishing softwar from its cold dead hands?
BT, sounds silly, but it always makes me wonder if it’s being done intentionally . . . to benefit someone selling ’short’
Bravo!! You nailed it!
I decided soon after he was hired that DoucheHat’s primary function was to redeem KKKristol’s reputation as an intellectual. Still not nearly as bloodthirsty and vicious, but actully succeeds in making KKKristol seem marginally sentient and coherent.
Think “chunky Reese Witherspoon”.
Don’t all jump on me at once,but from what I saw right or wrong the guy wouldn’t back down on his convictions.
Which our current president needs to understand.And well it seems to be a little late now,this whole health care thing has been lost amongst other things that there should have been a strong stand own.
Hey SD: You don’t have to sugar-coat it for us.
Shit hole. it’s the cradle of civilization! Now Cholon, that was a shit hole!
Shot this e-mail off at 7 this morning still waiting for it to post.
“Wow Ross you’re one of the smartest guys I’ve read.
A surge in an illegal invasion can right the wrong.
Try telling that to the 1′000′000+ dead Iraqis we liberated.
No GEORGE BUSH and co. are war criminals with NO redeeming values,He will be know as the Torture/ Murder/ Treason President .
Let’s see them in the dock at Nuremburg to justify their invasion and surge. Nothing to fear if they followed the LAW.”
He didn’t fuck up the coin flip at the Cowboys-Giants game last night!
Don’t all jump on me at once,but from what I saw right or wrong the guy wouldn’t back down on his convictions.
Poppy got him off the hook for the DWI.
You can comment on the online version ,which I do often.
Seems the author can chose to take comments or not. David Brooks does, Tom Freidman ,after so many comments about his hands being covered in blood from his war ra ra shit, not so much.
My opinion on “the surge?” I have a creeping suspicion that there are many who are simply keeping their powder dry. For now. Surge, Schmurge.
As for the “bailout/”sweeping decisions?” Yeah, that was a rip-roaring success, wasn’t it?
What color is the sky in DoucheHat’s world?
Failed there too. Just had 2 million, er, I mean 70,000, braindead stomping a rampage through DC.
not so much dipwad
linkage
Wow, you guys must be bored going back to Bush AGAIN!?!?! Is your buddy Obama not doing enough presently to talk about.
Funny how Obama is helping dismantle much of America’s defenses and attacking the CIA via EH, and this is just what we know about. Appears we are going to have our hands tied around our balls much like when Bush took over from Clinton when 2012 rolls around.
Furthermore, I doubt that Douthat can light up a room like Bill Kristol can.
Scroll the troll.
I would get that thinking disorder checked out by a professional.
Wow! Once again the guy gets “rescued” after trashing something – this time not only his own country, but others as well!
I seem to recall some 3,200 people murdered on September 11, 2001 under his watch. Also. Wasn’t there a hurricane in New Orleans that caused a bit of damage while W was on vacation? And whatever happened to getting bin Laden “dead or alive?”
By that measure, Obama is a blindingly great success.
Actually, he usually lights up a room more like this.
Is that what it is? Here I thought someone left a burning sack of dog shit on the porch.
Bush would have been rated as a very good, possibly near-great, president if he hadn’t peed his legacy away by spending like a drunken Democrat. And if liberals hadn’t sabotaged the war in Iraq.
But still, he will be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to win it.
Stop right there. When has Decider Bush ever honestly taken responsibility for any of his actions, let alone the actions of his Administration? Taking responsibility violates both Republic and Rovian doctrines.
Aw what’s this? I thought I was out of moderator purgatory.
Nice satire.
How do you know that?
Good? As compared to what? Even Douthat can’t be that delusional.
Meh, 6 of one, half a dozen the other.
I’m betting he can. I see even more delusional right here in this thread!
Ain’t we blessed! ! !
You have to admit, Decider Bush was good at bike ridin’ and brush clearin’.
Those are both important when you’re Preznittin’.
It’s a Glory Hole of Salty Goodness!
This is part of the rehab, and I’m not buying it. Not in a million years.
I was suspicious of book by the ex speechwriter who sort of makes the reader “feel sorry” for Bush and his inability to handle the job. No. Way. That silver spooned SOB should have quit after the first term when he realized he wasn’t up to the jobm but he’s so full of himself and his own entitlement, he didn’t. And drove us all into a ditch.
I will NEVER accede to a revision of the history I lived through. Never.
The goal is to rehab Decider Bush just enough to not be a total drag on John Bush when he runs next.
If Douchehat is going to use the educational “D-. Pass!” analogy, why would he use the absolute barest minimum standards used for undergraduate (and lower) standards? Isn’t President of the United States more analogous to the top of the educational ladder? Educationally, the top level would be graduate school (something Bush allegedly completed). Using those educational standards, in graduate school only A’s and B’s are considered passing grades; the lowest acceptable passing grade would be a B-. Thus a D- would still be a failing grade.
The only way Douchehat can spin W as a “good” president is by lowering the bar to a level that also admits Nixon as being “good.” Applying the same metric would mean that Hitler, Brezhnev, Stalin, Castro, and Hugo Chavez were/are all “good” leaders, because all of them can show a certain amount of administrative “success” on paper. Conservatives have no standards, so they must constantly shift the goalpost to work to their advantage.
In the not too distant past conservatives used to say that liberals were moral relativists. My how times have changed.
I’m pretty sure that shot is without the airbrushing. More like air-bursting, actually.
Yah. If he could have just mastered prezel eatin’ maybe things could have been different…
Good for you.
Unfortunately, enough will, and with the help of the GOP/Media Complex, it will become CW soon enough.
Don’t believe me???
Why, it’s CW that FDR didn’t pull us out of the Great Depression, only WWII did that (even though EVERY economic indicator showed rebound in EVERY year except 1938 after his New Deal proposals were put through).
Don’t believe me???
I could name a DOZEN so-called “givens” by most Americans right now that are out and out FALSE.
Never “misunderestimate” the ability of the American people to be fooled. It’s only just beginning.
These idiots keep talking about the surge as having been this huge success. The Suni awakening started before the surge was announced.
Have the political goals ever been accomplished?
At the intersection where Tet started in Cholon a dead VC laid in the middle of the street for days. Yeah, it was a shithole, alright.
He was up to the job as defined by his Administration: give speeches, take vacations, and stay out of Cheney’s way.
There’s an old saying in Tennessee, I know it’s in Texas, probably Tennessee, that says Fool me once, shame on…shame on you.
Fool me.
You can’t get fooled again
I don’t pretend to be any sort of expert on Iraq, but it has always struck me that “the surge” just precipated a calm period. If I had to bet, I’d say that the warring factions are simply taking a break.
barf
I call it hidin’ an’ watchin’.
Uh, I watched it.
We’d bought off some Sunnis, temporarily. Most others had been killed or had fled.
Seriously, even John Stewart once bemoaned the fact that his son might one day attend George W. Bush High School.
Here’s where Ross gives away his game, in his switch mid-sentence from active to passive voice:
Note that Bush did the averting while some mysterious creating was done by, perhaps, others. Jeb! will no doubt choose better advisers, thus obviating the need for aversion skills at all.
This is Bush knob-polishing, legacy-building, GOP resuscitation, and Jeb! repair.
That’ll piss off all the English teachers!
Nothing short of Glenn Beck could get me to miss Bill Kristol in that spot. Bill Kristol was only engaged with that column when he wanted to play armchair campaign strategist. Bill Kristol’s being absent only enhances the surpassing awfulness that is Jon Caramanica *g*
Yup.
When the Sunnis had their “awakening” they turned on the al quaeda and assisted our troops (they were also getting paid by us)> This started well before the surge and is what led to a relatively quite period not the surge.
The Chieu Hoi’s would come over, get healthy and di-di back to the other side.
Bush a “good” president? Right. I ‘Doubthat,’ Mr. Douthat.
The bullshit never ends, does it. Why is that?
Oh, this is so crunchy and shadenfreudelicious. Orly Taitz, Birther and imcompetent lawyer is in big trouble with her client and a Federal Judge. She has two weeks before she has to pay a $10,000 fine. Her former client is going to file a complaint against her in the California State Bar, and that is not the good kind of bar, with drinks and snacks.
Now watch this drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc
You are kidding. You fucking idiots got everything you wanted in Iraq and it’s still a cluster-fuck. Get lost.
As to Douchehat’s assertion that the “Surge” worked, I say “prove it.” The “Surge” so vaunted by the conservatives was also concomitant to a massive bribe scheme in which the U.S. bought off many sectarian leaders to help insure relative “peace.” The “Surge” did not happen in a vacuum and has not been shown to be any more responsible for the lessening of violence than was the Sunni Awakening or the bribery scheme mentioned above. But the conservatives will take credit for anything if it buttresses their opinion.
This is the ultimate example of the cock taking credit for the sunrise. Maybe two cocks: Bush and Douchehat.
I’d call them dicks but dicks have heads!
Well, they are both dicks. But the biggest dick of course, is Dick himself, the former VP.
Well, I guess I have to say that I am disappointed in this one. Douthat is writing for the few conservatives that pick up the NY Times for their news. The fact that you disagree with his viewpoint is, well, a given.
What would/will happen when Douthat is replaced? His column inches will be filled by a progressive? Come on, live with it.
Boy, as a progressive I sometimes cringe at all the anti-diversity of opinion I read online.
OK, #1, Bush was the worst President ever, an obvious fact; #2, the 29 percenters who love Bush disagree with this obvious fact; and #3, every once in a while a 29 percenter will write about Bush. But does it have to be an obvious fact that liberals will then protest #3?
When you’ve seen the MSM change the “facts” on the ground the way they’ve been able to, through mere repitition, then you’d understand why we fight it at every opportunity.
Think “liberal media.”
That is so far wrong, so untrue, yet it is perceived by more than just the 29 percenters. Why? Because it was repeated and repeated over and over and over and over and over again WITHOUT anyone fighing back.
If we don’t fight back, this is how it will work. The surge worked, and saved Iraq. The bailout delivered us all from total collapse. Torture really did stop attacks and save lives. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
And then we’ll be naming an airport after GWB.
So be pissed at me if you want, but I’m fighting it, and calling it bullshit every time I have the chance.
Yes, I know the constant disinformation/reeducation campaign will claim many victims, but not this one!
On another point, why is it that so many people in the younger generations are so easily led by BS “theories”? I can’t think of one person I know who actually lived through the Depression that wouldn’t laugh their asses off if some “revisionist historian” from the Heritage Foundation or some other RW think tank tried to tell them the New Deal caused the GD, or FDR was a Nazi, or some other shit.
Have we really gotten dumber??
I think I see a meme here.
And that’s it in a nutshell.
Bush WAS a good president in the sense that he delivered for his base, he listened to them, he made sure they were satisfied. Of course that meant he had to loot the treasury, violate international and domestic laws, and completely besmirch the reputation of this country, but hey! He delivered.
Obama is continuing in Bush’s footsteps but he is pissing off the segment of his base that actually believed that there might be some breath left in the body politic as far as the two party thingee goes. Now that that delusion has been exposed, he is committing the US to an expanded war in Afghanistan with the concomitant war crimes; he’s increasing the US presence in Latin America, specifically Colombia, to ensure a steady flow of cocaine (to complement the Afghani heroin) to fund CIA black ops and buoy the stock market through laundering the dirty drug money; and he has provided a wonderful introduction to cynicism for those who were young enough and idealistic enough to believe that their voices were heard and that their vote did too count, dammit!
The GOP will be resurrected before most pundits on the left believe, I think as early as 2010, as soon as the DINOs put the last nail in the coffin of the working class in America.
It really would be nice to have a meaningful
secondthird party, don’t ya think?Be nice if it would stop raining in Georgia, people are trapped in Atlanta!
Picky picky picky. First Georgia folks complain about a little bitty drought and then when you do get some rain, you turn around and complain about a few floods. Never pleasing some folks. /s :})
Fifty two years old and I’ve been spelling “Asshat” totally wrong all these years…
LOL, who knew????
Oh well, he’s just a douthole anyway. *G*
The Times can’t stop exposing itself to this kind of ridicule, they’re attached to conservatives. If you are attached to monstrosity and stupidity, you exhibit those things.
School closings for rain.
I saw that this morning on Weather Channel. I thought they were going to freak out a couple of times with the “OMG, this is our backyard here” effect.
Yea, it’s pretty intense. They have evacuated an entire town because they fear the levee will break. It’s still coming too.
When the Levee Breaks
I for one am so glad the Doucheboys lost last night on opening night.
Shameful. /s
:-) Heh. LOL ROFLMAO
Have they begun praying for the government to stay away, so God can save them?
I like Atlanta, but Gosh it’s hard to imagine the government doing anything to help them. I suppose the governor down there has to ask for help first. Maybe he (Republican?) could give a speech wherein he repudiates all the anti-government rhetoric of the Right for the last 30 years.
If history is an example the Republicans who blamed the Dems in Louisiana for the tremendous Bush disaster will also probably blame the mayor of Atlanta (she’s a Dem) for all the rain. I can hear it now, “Why weren’t there buckets when we needed them?”
Who is the head of FEMA these days? Does Napolitano have him/her gearing up for some rescue/recovery/help work or are they already on the job?
W was a good president like Katrina was a good hurricane.