Funny thing, the wingers just forgot about that silly aspect of the missile defense system Not Working. Fiscal irresponsibility only seems to occur to them when it’s about public interest legislation.

So the “Iran is getting a nuke capability” came from a secret document seen by the AP. Did the AP get some 4th grader’s fantasy writings?

Lead paragraph says Iran has the ability to make nukes. Third paragraph says they have the knowledge.. misleading much?
They forgot to mention they have opposable thumbs. Also.

Good morning.

The Gail Norton news is good.

But, of course…

from your link:

IAEA denies report it is sure Iran seeking atom bomb

hey – knock it off with teh facts, will ya? VERY detrimental to the health of wingnuts – especially their heads.

*And*, it’s a pre-existing condition.

Hell, I have the knowledge to build a nuke. Is Israel gonna bomb my duplex?

Listened to an interview on antiwar.com a couple of weeks ago. Israel has a puppet at IAEA who keeps arguing for a more militant report on Iran. As you know elBaradei (sp?) is retiring, and his replacement, iirc, is Japanese. The person I heard thought he would be OK, but not as good as elBaradei at standing against the IAEA wingnut, but it’s a risk. Think the switchover is soon, maybe 10/1.

No but homeland security will be there this afternoon.

Incoming…

I always did want to meet the Keystone Kops.

Al Jazeera had the same report today, compare it with the report above if you will:
http://english.aljazeera.net/n…..55542.html
can anyone spot differences? All the best……

45,000 people in the U.S. die/year owing to lack of medical insurance. democracynow just did a segment on it. They will have a link to the study later this morning. That figure tops many serious diseases; didn’t catch the details.

goodmorning…..
AP=R.MURDOCK……………that is all

Harvard medical school……………….just speechless

Baz no BRAIN TUMOR..yea…………just epilepsy

Yes, I caught that. Do you have a link?

The study itself; http://pnhp.org/excessdeaths/h…..adults.pdf

Here’s a link to an article on the study.

Thanks. It’s about time someone did such a study. Makes for a good response to the deathers.

Source: American Journal of Public Health

The new study, “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults,” appears in today’s online edition of the American Journal of Public Health.

The Harvard-based researchers found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

Lead author Dr. Andrew Wilper, who worked at Harvard Medical School when the study was done and who now teaches at the University of Washington Medical School, said, “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors and baseline health. We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes and heart disease – but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking education, income and many other factors including smoking, drinking and obesity into account. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Read more: http://www.physorg.com/news172424058.html

The Harvard-based researchers found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

peachy!

I saw that yesterday. Good for (((Baz))). Epilepsy can be dealt with.

this DOES NOT take into account
the UNDERINSURED
or those targeted by rescission

The new study should be used in calls to members of congress. Ask them if they’re happy to be responsible for 45,000 deaths/year because of their resistence to single payer. The doc on democracynow said the only reason why public option was on the table was because of calls to congress in favor of single payer.

yes………..he is such a dear boy really….doesnt mind any newcomers

FAX.FAX.FAX…..the damned study
to the MOFOS…(HEHEHEE) AT THE LIBERAL MEDIA TOO

MURDER BY SPREADSHEET indeed

Harvard and Mass General
the highest echelon…………..they KNOW

from the last paragraph of your link:

However, the study’s authors concede that the research was conducted “at a single point in time” and that they did not validate their subjects’ insurance status. It also pointed to other limitations such as how much value individuals place on their health…

ummm, yeah, if I’d been asked, “being healthy” would have been just *way* the hell down toward the bottom of my List of Important Stuff.

What the hell kind of stupid line is that?

I’m beginning to think that Harvard turns out pinheads – see, for example, a former Editor of The Harvard Law Review (hint – he’s now president) who doesn’t seem to know how to read polls or know that when you have overwhelming national support on a particular issue, you might just want to hammer some corresponding legislation through.

Is Harvard now a junior college?

The IAEA, however, has called the reports of a “secret annex” misinformation.

The care takers of Anne Frank’s writings and history should have “Secret Annex” copyrighted if the phrase is going to be abused in ways such as it is in this instance.

“… owing to the lack of Medical insurance.”

That is the quote that we are all seeing, eCHAN, but is it honest or accurate?

Perhaps these deaths are due, rather, to a lack of medical CARE and an indifferent society which has abandoned both appreciation for community and respect for the social contract … for mere money and the unchallenged $ucce$$ of a self-appointed elite?

Perhaps it is not insurance, but the “nature” of our current system?

Were any of these rather many people who died, “important” people, members of the too big to fail set?

Gee, one wonders if money (or its lack of “presence” for too many people) might play some small, though significant, role.

What would dispassionate “justice” say?

And, (for the Christians who comprise, so we are told, the majority of US citizens) what would Jesus say?

On whom (or what) does the onus for this true failure of civilization and society reasonably lie?

These are merely rhetorical questions?

Answers are not expected.

Perhaps, though, they are worthy of consideration?

DW

very good news indeed. My sister has epilepsy. Somehow she cured herself. Did it all with diet and vitamins, and she hasn’t taken any prescription drugs, or suffered any seizures, for about 25 years now.

her source was a biz journal
prolly pro big insurance

Mass General, The House of God. The characters are composites of internists and residents in the 70s. A number of the psychiatrists ended up at the VA in Denver and the Univ of Colorado Medical School. Quite the crew. Fun to work and play with.

wow….but he is a doggie………..i still would be very willing to try this approach

I have been busy researching corporate corruption, so this may have been snarked on already. But it is another precious, Republican warmonger asshole moment. Would you believe Irakis are not grateful for the US military occupation of their country, the murder of hundred of thousands or Irakis for fun and the theft of their Oil.

BUT NOOOOO! They are totally ungrateful. Dana Rohrabacher is not happy about it.

At the hearing, Saleh al Mutlaq and former Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, both members of Iraq’s Council of Representatives, spoke about Iraq’s future and the importance of the country’s upcoming elections.

Mutlaq called for a “moral and responsible” withdrawal of U.S. troops saying that the invasion of his country was “irresponsible.”

We did give them Operation Iraqi Freedom. What do we get in return? Uppity complaints.

“I have never heard one word of gratitude from the Iraqi people about the 4,300 Americans who lost their lives,” he exclaimed.

“We went to Iraq to try and free your people and now we’re being blamed for sectarian violence,” he said. “Don’t blame us because that type of bloodlust exists in your society.”

A defiant Mutlaq responded, “You were the ones who pushed your troops. We did not invite you.”

It was at this point that an exasperated Rohrabacher threw up his hands and stormed out of the room.

We gave those people freedom. And they had all those weapons of mass destruction. OR one or the other, whatever.

It was only in the aftermath of Rohrabacher’s tantrum that Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) quietly stated that weapons of mass destruction, and not Iraqi freedom, were the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq.

some people still dedicated to the craft/art

As libertarians, conservatives and Republicans would say “freedom isn’t free.” As long as they don’t have to pay the price of “freedom” they could care less.

personally, I have no idea how (they) did it. But she and my mother put their heads together, did massive amounts of research, and personally called every expert in the country.

The exact formula they came up is something I don’t know.

oh fuk him with a fistwide stack of confederate money unlubed

that would be shock and awe

There were 710 reasons for invading Iraq; oh wait
only one OIL

funny you should mention………..i ve been reading alot,phosphatidyl choline sounds promising

The History of Oil – Robert Newman. A great little film.

I dated a shrink in Denver who took Dilantin for her epilepsy. Have you seen this site. Here’s my search page.

Mushroom clouds on the horizon! Putin rears his head!

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak: 4344

US KIA Afghanistan: 838

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

Thanks for reposting that link, does put a smile on the day that.

All the best…….

I have a more cynical view. Those at the upper reaches of power are looking for ways to depopulate the planet, manage it at a more workable level.

But imposing some sort of rational policy toward that goal is completely unacceptable. So they are all for war, and anything that leads to a die off population while concentrating wealth and more importantly power.

The ones who carry out these policies do it for greed, something which seems to be an easy sell especially since wealth IS the measure of success in this society.

Brilliant though naive citizens such as Jane, Christy and many other believe that the system we have is a good one, ie the constitution, if only we can get it to work as it’s supposed to.

I think we past the point of no return. The system has been so corrupted and perverted it can no longer represent the commonweal – the people. America has experience as slow motion coup d’etat of sorts by corporate interests. We live in a fascist state which masquerades as a democracy.

Many still try to use the levers of a democracy to run our society. But those levers are not there anymore. And the ones that remain are only pulled by “special interests”.

New strategies and tactics are in order as they pile up more victories and we lose every battle for freedom and human rights.

What would a rational policy for depopulating the planet look like, and what type of government could impose it?