Think Progress » Boehner and Cantor ‘wary of the possible damage …It was reported yesterday in Salon that Glenn Beck’s outrageous rants were inspired by the works of ’50’s uber-uber Reich Wing Mormmon, Cleon Skousen. … Although Skouse was a Mormon,as is Beck, Skouse was even too right wing for the …
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remember right after the inauguration and the WH asked for time from all the networks for something or other on the economy, and Fox was the only one to say no? Instead, they hilariously ran a primetime episode of some show actually named “Lie to Me”? Any feud they have may run a lot deeper than just Beck or even just FoxNews. Heck, I think every Dem should be boycotting every last Murdoch property.

I didn’t know Roger Ailes shaved his leg.

Nice to see some no drama again.

Heh. Beck is a Moran (oh I meant Mormon). It figgers.

(slam) ^$&*%^# (slam) word! (slam)

Seems like the only possible response to Rahm.

It makes it easier for him to get the pantyhose up.

If you wanted further proof that Peterr is simply not of this earth*, here you go!

Isn’t this excellent?

*My own theory is that his birth parents put him in a capsule and sent him from their doomed planet.

Yeah Fucking Right!! Never happen in OUR wildest Dream! Glen would F@#k his mother first!!

Here’s my version of the three lines:

RAHM (smiling): All you have to do is fire Glenn Beck and then YOU go on the air and publicly apologize on behalf of your network — to the president, to his supporters, and to anyone who was listening. I. Was. Wrong.”

AILES: You gotta be kidding.

RAHM: In your dreams. It’s up to you, Roger. It’s Thursday afternoon. You fire him right now. You apologize tonight Primetime. His desk is !*#@!cleaned out by Friday. And you send me a picture of his !#$#@! cleaned out !#@#@!~ desk. And we’ll be there on Sunday.

Picture of Joe Namath just flashed through my mind.

Was he a x-dresser?

Lovely fantasy! You do this so well that you ought to submit your résumé to the New York Times to take over Maureen Dowd’s slots. Most of what she does involves fevered fetid fantasy — you’d be a refreshing change on the fantasy op ed page.

He posed for some ad – can’t remember – wearing panty hose. It was really hilarious. This was many many years ago.

He did a classic commercial for panty hose years and years ago when he shaved his legs…

According to Wiki it was for Beautymist pantyhose. I’m heading off to bed, but I’m sure that some clever pup will be able to find the film that Broadway Joe wishes he could forget…

Heh, Twain and Marion,

I heard from one of my HS classmates in Buffalo, who was a newshound for many years, that many athletic pros were homosexual or bisexual. Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Namath fit the picture.

As I was writing this, I was thinking more of Bob Newhart than Ms. Dowd.

This is hilarious. The Chinese-language headline on Xinhua (a government-owned Chinese network) reads:

“U.S. health care plan to include public option”

The first line of the article reads: “US Legislature will pass a government-run insurance plan”

Quoting Pelosi today.. I guess they think she can make laws. Their journos proably don’t have a particularly good idea how the US political system works, so I wouldn’t assume they know anything we don’t ;-P

hahahahaha

The one where he was trying to explain what tobacco is and what you do with it? It was the best.

A Chinese wish expressed as a forecast. They don’t have a public plan either. Or any other safety net. Quite cute for a “communist” society.

I had no idea it would be so easy to find. (Small ad to click on, upper left of screen.) He did have purdy legs, didn’t he… (For what it’s worth, the brand of pantyhose sucked. Sucked in the high 90s…)

Hmm
I hear tell it’s Rahm who shaves the leg

I don’t think that was what it was all about. It was for shock value, with humor. I remember the ad, and how we all howled at it.

Well, if you’re looking for a new gig….!

Well, liver and loin, as the butcher said.

Having surprised myself with my Gazoogle skillz now I’m really heading off to bed. Sleep well, and happy dreams to all pups.

SNORT! I never heard that one… It is now SO stolen!

yeah. As a developing country they’re decades behind on healthcare. And their people have an expectation that whatever system they’ll eventually have will be government-funded. Their stimulus includes money to construct 50,000+ new government hospitals and clinics but the country’s so vast that that’s going to barely be a start. What they really need is a social security and a medicare type system. I think their government wants to develop something like the Singaporean system.. but that’s kind of like us wishing we had the French system.

I also like the one-sided phone conversation between Newhart as a Madison Avenue speechwriter and President Lincoln, going over the Gettysburg Address.

How many years (single-digit?) before the Chinese surpass the U.S.? Gotta bombum now to avoid that dire possibility.

newhart
driving school instructor

well.. at purchasing power parity, their economy will be bigger than ours within about a decade and a half (actually 8 years if it maintains its current growth rate, but that’s not gonna happen). But they’ll still be only a middle-income country at that point in time, with about 1/5th our per capita GDP. Generally speaking, countries at that level of development (where they’ll be by that time) don’t worry too much about universal healthcare or even any real healthcare system outside of the biggest cities. But I think their government is already discovering that their people (who are unusually educated and unusually healthy for their level of development) will demand it anyway.

However, I take your point. If they surpass us in healthcare access it won’t be because they suddenly catch up. It’ll because our own system outright blows up. And that’s a distinct possibility. There’s some evidence that infant mortality among unisured women in the US is actually a lot worse than poor regions of China, because of the limited access in the US to preventative health and to nurse-midwives.

haha, quie the fantasy.

rahm only has guts to attack the left of the left

I musta had a bad connection ’cause I heard it like this:

AILES: Sorry Rahm. No can do. Glenn wants your guy to apologize for appointing all those czars and have them resign by Monday.

RAHM: Is that all? Consider it done.

The media is about bread and circuses. It just so happens that Fox runs the biggest, but by no means the only, freak show on the midway.

The odd thing is that Obama agrees with the Republicans on so many issues that they are reduced to leveling charges that just get weirder and more absurd by the minute.

Night.

Not defending China. Just trying to put US into perspective, which does not redound to the US benefit.

As for China, it is experiencing severe problems both from the downturn and its misdirected and hamfisted response to it. You have to understand too, that much of the economic data coming out of China recently are simply made up to cover over how bad things are. The truth is considered too politically explosive.

I do a lot of work with that country on the financing of major infrastructure projects (unfortunately), so I have to track developments pretty closely. I don’t think things are anywhere near as grim economically as our media (and their’s) have been peddling. Once you leave the major cities, there’s seriously not much of a recession going on.

Actually, some of their numbers are amazingly accurate. Others aren’t. You just have to know where to look. Macro composites are frequently revised (and sometimes just made up, over the short run), but, then again, so are ours. Unemployment numbers are awful and unreliable (as are ours). But, on the other hand, their monetary numbers (money supply, etc.) are very good.. better than ours in many respects. So if you want to know what’s really going on, as you know its very possible to reconstruct macro numbers from good monetary data, which is what most China hands do. Their economy is still growing pretty fast.

my sense is that the US is at a crucial pivot-point now. If we can really start reforming the non-competitive aspects of our economy (like healthcare) then we have a shot to stay in top and return to a position of global leadership. If we reject change and go back to 8 more years of rethug rule, within 20 or 30 years, all the rules are going to be made in Beijing, Sao Paulo and Delhi.

China admits to something like 20 million unemployed. The more likely estimates are 50 million. Much of the money that China threw at its economic problems went into creating more productive capacity even though they already had a large capacity overhang. It went to banks who were more or less ordered to make loans. The result was a great deal of fraud. Money from this also spilled over into their stock market and in commodities purchases creating speculative bubbles in them. Currently the government is trying to walk back and unwind its loan strategy and deal with the bubbles, but the problems of unemployment and production overcapacity remain.

I don’t see reform likely. If we go into depression in 2011 or before, reform may be forced on the system and our political leaders but the price will be very high. I don’t see the BRIC countries taking over because I think the whole notion of decoupling has been oversold. In the longer term, resource constraints will hamper and block their development as well.

that sounds about right. I’d put unemployment at closer to 65 million. But if you look at what’s happening sectorally and where that unemployment is, you realize it doesn’t matter much (unless you believe in the bugbear of political destabilization, which is nonsensical IMO.. just as nonsensical when we used to talk about the country breaking apart in the late ’80s).

Yes, they have a left of capacity overhang but look at the sectoral distribution of it? New capacity coming on line is not the same as the stuff that’s idled. As for speculative bubbles, we could debate that issue forever, but suffice it to say, I think there are a lot fewer than one might thing, and they are, in generally, much more locally focused (Shanghai real estate) than one might think.

But 50 million is what % of the Chinese potential labor force?

50 or 65 million, it is a sufficient concern to the government in Beijing for them to lie about it. China tends to be stable until it isn’t and then it isn’t in a big way. The Communist leadership no longer has any ideology to run on so the deal with the public was jobs and economic growth. If they can’t deliver on that or are even perceived as not being able to deliver on it, then that leadership sees itself in very big trouble.

Makes sense. I just mean that insofar as China’s population is so much larger than the US’s, that kind of number is not as huge a share of the workforce as it would be in the US. Probably obvious to most/all, but that’s me all over…

I”m not discounting any of what ya say.

But cold weather footballers, they wore panty hose, in the day.

It was warm, had NOTHING to do with their sexual preferences, and Namath’s OUTING of such, inspired a lot of high school BASEBALL players to try it. I did. In ‘71.

It’s fuckin WARM, dammit! And yeah, me and a few others got SHIT about it.

By then, the major leagues in baseball were doin it all over.

Google is yer friend, and so was pantyhose! *G*

Do you discount they have thousands of phreakin years of herbal and alternative medicinal practices that are PROVEN to be effective?

How about if we just convince GB to walk off a cliff, and let his lemmings follow him?

ANY Newhart on the phone, is good Newhart.

*G*

I like the fantasy, although I suspect that Ailes would know better than to call …

True.

65 mil about 6.6%. Heavily rural. It’s important to note that rural unemployment will be high in rapidly modernizing economies as older and less educated workers are left behind as others move to the cities to find work. It’s kind of a West Virginia phenomenon but not stable. The Beijing government tried to maintain the illusion of full employment because it thinks that unemployment leads to instability. Generally speaking, the Chinse economy and citizenry consistently prove to be more resilient and stable than their government (and American armchair pundits) like to give them credit for. If you economy is changing as rapidly as China’s, frictional unemployment and capacity overhang, unevenly distributed geographically and sectorally, are inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing, as you need sufficient labor market flexibility to sustain the transformation process (if everbody is employed and every factory is running at capacity, as their government likes us to believe, then growth would slow since there would be insufficient agility in the system for new industries and geographic poles of growth to emerge. Emerging markets economic goals aren’t the same as developed country country ones. Both Chinese bureaucrats and American economists tend to forget that.

Early on in his campaign, Obama wasn’t speaking to FOX, as I recall.
Why couldn’t the admin. continure this policy?

For those of you having fun thinking of Joe Namath and his panty hose venture, lemme jes say:

I finally took Joe’s cue, and I discovered that if you work outdoors in really cold weather, the only thing better than a pair of panty hose is another pair over them. Then you put on your long underwear and some jeans. Stunningly effective!