President Obama explains his view of the public option:
I have insisted that like any private insurance company, the public insurance option would have to be self-sufficient and rely on the premiums it collects. But by avoiding some of the overhead that gets eaten up at private companies by profits, excessive administrative costs and executive salaries, it could provide a good deal for consumers.
What a weak plan the President offers. He thinks he can knock a few pennies off the cost of administering insurance, when the problem is that the spiraling costs of health care are ruining the economic stability of our citizens. Marcy gives an excellent description of the costs the system inflicts on families. A family of four making $67K could easily spend 31% of its income on insurance and out-of-pocket costs. That isn’t all, though. The plan increases the amount of money going to Medicaid, which comes out of taxes, so figure a few more bucks out of the pockets of the middle class to pay for health care for the really poor.
The chart in this post shows estimates of premium increases over the next 10 years, a total of $1.39 trillion in new money for insurance companies. The President’s recommendations for insurance reform, cutting out the worst abuses, are going to cause even more price rises for insurance. Just how much money does the President think we should pay as a nation for health care? Are there any limits?
The real question is whether the public option will have statutory authority to require participation of doctors and hospitals, using Medicare participation as a hammer, and whether it can use Medicare with the public option to negotiate drug rates. A third point is the use of the Treasury as a cushion. If premiums are set too high or low one year, the Treasury covers the difference, and the adjustment is made to next year’s premiums. This is what I would call a robust public option. With these features it can drive down costs. Without them, it can’t. If it can’t lower costs, what is the justification? We might just as well pour the money into the insurance companies as set up a separate bureaucracy.
The President didn’t discuss these issues, but gives us a hint in the language about self-sufficiency. Insurance companies have reserves to make payments. HR 3200 gives the public option reserves equal to 90 days worth of claims, (Sect. 222(b)(2)) but it isn’t clear that is even enough for starters if the goal is to set up a new insurance company inside the government. Using the Treasury as the reserve solves this problem.
Then, the President wants this relatively small company to service people all over the country. Without a strong hand, it won’t be able to create provider networks. Drugs are a major cost issue for all of us. The government needs the authority to negotiate drug prices with the power of Medicare. The few pennies on the dollar big Phama is offering are meaningless. Just how is this limp public option going to help on the cost front?
The term “level playing field” is a smoke screen to allow insurance companies to preserve their control of the hundreds of billions of dollars President Obama wants to throw into the system.
Related posts:
- Schumer’s “Level Playing Field” Public Option Amendment Fails, 10-13
- Medicaid for All: An Alternative To Subsidizing Insurance Companies
- Max Tax Allows Insurance Companies to Suck Cash Directly from Treasury
- Raising Their Rates, Health Insurance Companies Put Themselves in a Box
- CMS: Public Option Much Cheaper Than Private Insurance, and Would Make Private Plans Cheaper, Too





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It’s difficult to level the playing field when it has been tilted against most of us for decades.
How can we level the playing field when the government makes secret deals agreeing not to negotiate cheaper prices and start putting caps on what insurance companies can charge in premiums.
It’s sure looking as if government is in thrall to the health insurance industry.
If I’m correct and this is about power, then unless the Dems create a robust public option, it just seems as if the Dems are showing up to a bullfight bareass naked to ask whether the snorting, ferocious bull pawing the dirt in the ring wouldn’t like to borrow their pretty little red cape.
They’ll be tossed, gored, and stomped if they don’t bring this monster under control.
I have reduced my hopes to merely hoping that things don’t turn out a hell of a lot worse than they are now – and have given up on hoping for anything truly helpful.
If they really want a ‘level playing field’, then they should kill the @#$%^&* insurance companies, because they’re what’s keeping the scales from being level.
What a bunch of shit you talk. What’s your plan? Single payer and it goes down in flames? Wow, you’re so strong. Proposing something that will fail. If ineptitude is strength, you are Andre the Giant.
“The urgency of mediocracy is now,” said the President to Little Rahmmy. Yeah, Obama!
http://www.truthdig.com/eartot…..ma_speech/
Thanks Democrats! Just as Clinton got in office and reamed two of the Democrats largest constituencies with the passage of NAFTA and the Clinton welfare reform act 1996, Obama is setting out to ream everyone with his botched, farcical insurance reform legislation, written largely by the affected industry.
you know, it is not hard to see the pattern with Democrats behavior, in office or out. When will ostensible ‘progressives’ ever learn not to waste their votes electing these wolves in sheep outfits?
By the way, here’s some of what he had to say to a Minneapolis crowd at the Target Center today:
Maybe we should kill this deal let the GOP take the blame and push the meme that Obama and Rahm were to weak in supporting Health Care and nice to the insurance companies.
We still have 70+ support if we get a bad bill passed we will own that failure.
True Strength is the ability to say No!
BREAKING NEWS: UnitedHealth Lobbyist Announces Pelosi Fundraiser As She Begins Backing Off Public Option
By David Sirota
OpenLeft, 9/11/09
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the first time yesterday suggested she may be backing off her support of the public option – the government-run health plan that the private insurance industry is desperately trying to kill. According to CNN, Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid “said they would support any provision that increases competition and accessibility for health insurance – whether or not it is the public option favored by most Democrats.”
This announcement came just hours before Steve Elmendorf, a registered UnitedHealth lobbyist and the head of UnitedHealth’s lobbying firm Elmendorf Strategies, blasted this email invitation throughout Washington, D.C. I just happened to get my hands on a copy of the invitation from a source – check it out:
From: Steve Elmendorf [mailto:steve@elmendorfstrategies.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: event with Speaker Pelosi at my home
You are cordially invited to a reception with
Speaker of the House
Nancy Pelosi
Thursday, September 24, 2009
6:30pm ~ 8:00pm
At the home of
Steve Elmendorf
2301 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Apt. 7B
Washington, D.C.
$5,000 PAC
$2,400 Individual
To RSVP or for additional information please contact
Carmela Clendening at (202) 485-3508 or clendening@dccc.org
Steve Elmendorf
ELMENDORF STRATEGIES
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SOLUTIONS
900 7th Street NW Suite 750 Washington DC 20001
(202) 737-1655
Again, Elmendorf is a registered lobbyist for UnitedHealth, and his firm’s website brags about its work for UnitedHealth on its website.
The sequencing here is important: Pelosi makes her announcement and then just hours later, the fundraising invitation goes out. Coincidental? I’m guessing no – these things rarely ever are.
I wrote a book a few years ago called Hostile Takeover whose premise was that corruption and legalized bribery has become so widespread that nobody in Washington even tries to hide it. This is about as good an example of that truism as I’ve ever seen.
Seems tilted to me.
Teddy Partridge hit this yesterday.
And that’s complete with a link to the OpenLeft article you are referencing.
From the above linked speech:
the unmitigated gall of that statement.
what other rights are we mandated to pay an oligopolistic cartel for?
maybe since freedom of speech is a right, it should be mandated that all citizens subscribe to the NYTimes, the Washpost and the Wall Street Journal? oh wait, the cable company lobby just pitched in and bought a few Democratic Senators, lets add a mandate for basic cable, as well.
Well, Social Security money is taken out of our paychecks via a mandate. Mandates are OK if you get something worthwhile in exchange. Since Social Security is what lifted America’s elderly out of poverty, I’d say that was a fair exchange.
But Obama doesn’t intend for this thing to cover more than 5% of the population. It’s very weak tea, indeed.
So is Medicare, PW. And if you count income tax withholding, so are Medicaid and everything else.
I’m amazed you can type, since you obviously can’t read.
Uninsured figures show mandate-based health reforms don’t work
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/…..res_sh.php
mandated insurance does not equal health care – people will be forced to buy junk insurance and still be driven into bankruptcy in the event of a serious illness.
mandated insurance does equal guaranteed profits for the insurance cartel who are writing the bill, which is why their stocks went up the day after Obama’s speech.
Thanks, it was worth repeating.
Social Security deductions are not funneled into the coffers of private, for profit corporations, are they?
Social Security is a fine program, but has very little in common with the health care legislation under discussion.
It is cash out of paychecks, and cash back later, after retirement. Simple.
Who knows what the nebulous ‘public option’ progressives are fetishizing will be, or if it will end up enacted, but we sure know what the mandates are. Jane Hamsher said here the other day that mandates could be disastrous for your beloved (D) party.
The public option is of no importance. It will either be killed or left but only as an empty shell. This process is about how to maximally sell out to insurance, drug, and medical companies.
The Obama ship of state is serenely sailing away without us. His strategy has always been to get the support of the Blue Dogs and the majority rank and file Democrats (who have kept a low profile on this), and shave off progressives as needed to get a bill passed. Nothing, nothing he has done as wavered from this.
The fix is in, the votes are there. All that is left is the kabuki.
The Social Security FICA is a tax, not a mandate.
Another nice piece of work. Thank you.
A “level playing field” is also code, reflecting Obama’s apparent commitment to insurers that any government run insurer would have a similar cost structure as the privates, except perhaps that its executives would be paid government scale instead of Wall Street scale. Hamstringing a public insurer by artificially keeping its market share low and by designing it to take over coverage for the most expensive insureds relieves the privates of any fear that it would be a true competitor.
This is a de facto commitment that the government will NOT compete with private insurers. This is an homage to the god of “private enterprise”, paid for with tax dollars – the essential tool of collective self-help that the Right begs for, but which it calls “socialism” when it goes to someone else.
This would be the same as Obama’s approach to the banksters. He (and Bush) threw unheard of amounts of tax dollars at financial (and now health insurance) predators without expecting them to change. In fact, he would do it in such a way as to assure them that they need not change, but instead will be able to solidify their private hold on systems that desperately need change.
This approach, this sort of program, would be the most expensive possible, entail the least change, while unnecessarily leaving tens of millions uninsured and leave others with insurance too expensive to use and as faulty as an Edsel. Whatever program Mr. Obama legislates, it should be the exclusive insurance available to the administration, Congress and the judiciary. It’s past time for them to eat the same sauce they’re trying to goose us with.
and, Social Security is an ‘everybody in, nobody out’ proposition – the kind out thing quavering ‘pragmatists’ cannot bring themselves to advocate for today.
So, thanks for your consideration of my post #13, but it seems the point remains unanswered.
Here is another right as laid out in the Constitution – the right to trial by Jury.
Everybody pays in through taxes, and everyone is (theoretically) entitled to exercise this right.
Why didn’t this country try something fancy, like ‘trial insurance’ policies? So, everyone pays $300 a month to some private, for profit corporations in case they are ever entangled with the criminal justice system, and they keep the money and take out profits and dividends and corporate jets and marketing and then cover a portion of your court costs, minus a couple thousand dollars of deductible.
Sound like a good idea?
Book Salon a couple of flights upstairs with Dahr Jamail’s The Will to Resist: Soldiers who Refuse To Fight In Iraq and Afghanistan hosted by Gareth Porter
How fitting that the French Andre was exceptionally weak, not strong, like most excessively tall people. Bad spelling and bad analogies. Hmph. One would think that with all the talent and training Karl Rove left behind that trolls would be better at what they do.
but dressed up with the prettiest rhetoric, like
I guess the rhetoric is all that matters to some people.
Try opting out of it. Or not having a SS number.
There are such things. We can’t afford to buy them. They’re for corporate executives.
The president seems to believe in managed care
It’s the only sense I can make of his not going with single payer. Medicare for All would have pleased everyone but the industry, but it had the added bonus feature of killing off the industry, thus removing its power to use carrots or sticks on our Congresscritters. Instead, he chose to leave the industry, which isn’t going to like any plan he comes up with that they haven’t written anyway, with all of its carrots and sticks, and forego the opportunity to lower everyone’s premiums and get rid of most of the paperwork doctors are plagued by.
The only sense this makes is if you take him at his word that he thinks that the govt, through some combination of its direct control in the public option, and/or the indirect regulatory control it establishes over the industry insurers, can lower costs by using the leverage of the payer to enforce practices in medical care that will lower costs without compromising quality. This is the managed care ideal, and frankly, only very idealistic technocrats still believe in it. The industry pretty much tarnished the idea for the rest of us, by using it pretty frankly as ideological laundering to give frankly abusive practices some veneer of legitimacy. I guess you could still believe that, if only it were carried out by the pure of heart, managed care would be a good thing instead of a cancer, but you have to be pretty carried away by ideals to go there. Obama seems to be a fairly idealistic technocrat, God help us.
Put another way, Obama isn’t for Medicare for All because Medicare is fee-for-service, it does not use payment to control provider practice. He chose to forego all of the political advantage that could have been milked from going with Medicare for All because he thinks the industry is better, more advanced, than Medicare in this, that it practices managed care. I think that this view of the matter is what led him to say in his speech that the industry provides a useful service, God help us.
I say at this point get what we can. Maybe we can expand it later.
If Obama and the Dem,s fail we WILL get the Repukes back and THAT will end all this healthcare BS forever. they will end Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and then, there really will be death panels.
So, has anybody noticed the right wing march on Washington organized by our good friends Freedom Works?
Where’s OUR march? Will the media even cover it?
We gotta get what we can.
All of the savings of the average Joe or Jill not in a group plan. It’s simple, really.