Comments on: Late Night: The Babble Phlegm of the Wingnut Republic; OR, What’s a Half a Million or So, Give or Take? http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:53:53 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: pseudonymousinnc http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977204 pseudonymousinnc Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:19:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977204 <blockquote><p>It came from the Daily Mail, or at least that is where I saw it. They didn’t attribute it to a person and seemed to represent it as the reporter’s estimate.</p></blockquote> <p>As I’ve said elseblog: the Mail on Sunday goes to press at about 10pm London time on Saturday — they didn’t have time to wait for an accurate count, and wouldn’t bother doing it anyway, so changed “Number TK” to the highest number circulated in predictions and on the day, then covered their asses with an “up to”.</p>

It came from the Daily Mail, or at least that is where I saw it. They didn’t attribute it to a person and seemed to represent it as the reporter’s estimate.

As I’ve said elseblog: the Mail on Sunday goes to press at about 10pm London time on Saturday — they didn’t have time to wait for an accurate count, and wouldn’t bother doing it anyway, so changed “Number TK” to the highest number circulated in predictions and on the day, then covered their asses with an “up to”.

]]> By: Thers http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977187 Thers Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:50:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977187 <p>Incorrect. For accurate information about what’s going on in regards to the healthcare “debate,” read this blog daily.</p> Incorrect. For accurate information about what’s going on in regards to the healthcare “debate,” read this blog daily.

]]> By: Thers http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977185 Thers Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:49:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977185 <p>“Legitimate Movements” don’t need to exaggerate their importance by telling easily refuted lies that are off by about 1,999,930 people.</p> “Legitimate Movements” don’t need to exaggerate their importance by telling easily refuted lies that are off by about 1,999,930 people.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977132 cinnamonape Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:18:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977132 <p>One of the speakers up on the stage made a “Woodstockian” sort of announcement…lying that he got it from ABC. I suspect the Daily Mail and other Conserv a tive pipe- organs picked it up.</p> One of the speakers up on the stage made a “Woodstockian” sort of announcement…lying that he got it from ABC. I suspect the Daily Mail and other Conserv a tive pipe- organs picked it up.

]]> By: cregan http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977117 cregan Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:48:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977117 <p>Haven’t had a chance to read through all 169 comments, but what I read through, I didn’t see anyone say where the 2 million figure came from.</p> <p>It came from the Daily Mail, or at least that is where I saw it. They didn’t attribute it to a person and seemed to represent it as the reporter’s estimate.</p> <p>I thought it was off when I read it.</p> <p>It got posted on Drudge, and that is likely where others got the figure, and then cited it.</p> <p>But, here is a bigger issue. You can say these people are assholes, stupid, idiots, dumb shits, etc. BUT, with an actual power equivilant to a poker hand of a pair of two’s, they’ve been beating you up and down the street on this issue.</p> <p>You might do better and have better success for your cause by stopping underestimating them and trying another tactic because that hasn’t been working.</p> Haven’t had a chance to read through all 169 comments, but what I read through, I didn’t see anyone say where the 2 million figure came from.

It came from the Daily Mail, or at least that is where I saw it. They didn’t attribute it to a person and seemed to represent it as the reporter’s estimate.

I thought it was off when I read it.

It got posted on Drudge, and that is likely where others got the figure, and then cited it.

But, here is a bigger issue. You can say these people are assholes, stupid, idiots, dumb shits, etc. BUT, with an actual power equivilant to a poker hand of a pair of two’s, they’ve been beating you up and down the street on this issue.

You might do better and have better success for your cause by stopping underestimating them and trying another tactic because that hasn’t been working.

]]> By: serge http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977094 serge Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:14:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977094 <p>Post hoc…</p> Post hoc…

]]> By: Cellar47 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977090 Cellar47 Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:55:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977090 <p>Our eyes are wide open.</p> <p>And we know a wehite racist mob when we see one.</p> Our eyes are wide open.

And we know a wehite racist mob when we see one.

]]> By: seven http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977068 seven Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:19:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977068 <p>The reality based community from the top down suffers a severe case of cognitive dissonance, and denial.</p> <p>The simple fact is, Obama and your Big D attempted to force the health care bill through as they did the stimulus fiasco. This helped energize and startle the opposition into further action.</p> <p>The stimulus itself caused the initial formation of what is now a legitimate movement. Deny, deny, deny, continues to be your reaction.</p> <p>How many people? Lots.<br /> In fact more than have ever demonstrated from your opposition. It is in fact a stunning reversal.<br /> And very few of you get it, understand it or properly fear the significance of these events.</p> <p>2010 will be Apocalypse D.<br /> You will have your failed leadership, and yourselves to blame. You have spread nothing but fear, anger, and vile vulgarity for years now, and the people have now tuned you out, have stopped listening to you, and<br /> stepped up to ironically, demand change.</p> <p>Meanwhile, you continue to close your eyes, block your ears and scream.</p> The reality based community from the top down suffers a severe case of cognitive dissonance, and denial.

The simple fact is, Obama and your Big D attempted to force the health care bill through as they did the stimulus fiasco. This helped energize and startle the opposition into further action.

The stimulus itself caused the initial formation of what is now a legitimate movement. Deny, deny, deny, continues to be your reaction.

How many people? Lots.
In fact more than have ever demonstrated from your opposition. It is in fact a stunning reversal.
And very few of you get it, understand it or properly fear the significance of these events.

2010 will be Apocalypse D.
You will have your failed leadership, and yourselves to blame. You have spread nothing but fear, anger, and vile vulgarity for years now, and the people have now tuned you out, have stopped listening to you, and
stepped up to ironically, demand change.

Meanwhile, you continue to close your eyes, block your ears and scream.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977007 cinnamonape Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:28:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1977007 <p>Here’s some pictures that show the crowd only going a little past the reflecting pool…and dispersed fairly loosely around that…more like a picnic with their recliners and such. The group on down near the Wshington monument beyond the grassy break is the Black Family Picnic. Don’t be confused, there were two events on the Mall…and there is no way the 9/l2′ers would’ve been allowed to displace the other group, which had temporary structures and a stage for music.</p> <p><a href="http://lonestartimes.com/2009/09/12/more-pics-from-the-goatman/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://lonestartimes.com/2009/...../#comments</a></p> Here’s some pictures that show the crowd only going a little past the reflecting pool…and dispersed fairly loosely around that…more like a picnic with their recliners and such. The group on down near the Wshington monument beyond the grassy break is the Black Family Picnic. Don’t be confused, there were two events on the Mall…and there is no way the 9/l2′ers would’ve been allowed to displace the other group, which had temporary structures and a stage for music.

http://lonestartimes.com/2009/…../#comments

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1976921 cinnamonape Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:21:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/late-night-the-babble-phlegm-of-the-wingnut-republic-or-whats-a-half-of-million-or-so-give-or-take/#comment-1976921 <p>But they didn’t h ave Wiineb agos then.</p> But they didn’t h ave Wiineb agos then.

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