Comments on: The Adventures of President Barack von Munchausen

By: Patri

Patri — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:20:08 +0000

Right on. I’ve been saying that for months, now. He’s a Blue Dog and always has been. We were punked.

By: Patri

Patri — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:09:00 +0000

I totally agree. We are being so inundated with the moment to moment garbage of a public option,no public option, an option with a trigger, no trigger, that we’re missing the proverbial big picture.

Look at everything this White House has done to date with regard to Bush/Cheney torture; transparency; the wars; the banks, corporations, insurance and PhRMA; caving in to the right wing crazies; throwing long-time friends and administration appointees under the bus to please Glenn Beck and the Foxes; caving in to Joe Wilson; playing bed partner with the Blue Dogs. All this adds up to one simple fact, Obama is a Blue Dog who wants to maintain an imperial presidency/Oligarchy. Obama does NOT want any bill that will cause the slightest discomfort to the insurance industry or PhRMA.

Obama lied and health care reform died! Sound vaguely familiar? Third Party is our only choice. We need to begin to look for candidates for that third party–TODAY.

By: Tuttle

Tuttle — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:30:14 +0000

The Dems and Repubs are having this football game.
The Repubs are short of players on the field and their team is scattered all over the backfield, no one on the line, playing the ball.

All the Dems have to do it run it straight up the middle——->

…but wait, they’ve dropped the ball and fumbled…

…no one’s piled on to recover, both teams are standing around (scratching themselves).

SOMEONE, PICK UP THE BALL AND RUN TO THE ENDZONE!!

talk about your leatherheads!!! Where’s our star quarterback, for crying out loud?!!?

By: jsardo

jsardo — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:30:22 +0000

It is clear now that the health care debate has been a race for the payoff jackpot. Obama will make sure Democrats share in that bonanza. Obama will sign off on any piece of slop Republicans, conservatives and the health insurance industry throw on his desk.

The disease Obama suffers from is split personality. He is two persons. The one who campaigns on change is totality different from the one who occupies office. His second personality is obsessed with 2012 and is willing to do anything that brings him victory in that year. He has deserted his base because he’s certain that personality one will bring them back into the fold.

Personality two is weak and seeks to avoid confrontation at all cost. “Hey, look at me,” it says to the money, “I’ll sign any laws you need me to.”

Republicans and conservatives control Obama’s agenda. Sadly, if they wanted him to appoint Rush Limbaugh to the Supreme Court he would find a way to do it.

Another wasted vote for a Democrat. I really thought this guy was progressive. But he is what DLC propaganda calls a “centrist”. That is nothing more than a right-wing, conservatative payoff money chasing Democrat.

By: DrZen

DrZen — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:22:07 +0000

I can’t believe you are willing still to think that Obama is a sneaky progressive who is playing a long game of immense subtlety, when you have zero evidence of this and every reason to think that he’s a conservative who thinks the problem is that the system is a bit too expensive and not that it’s utter shit. What does he have to do? Pilot the planes that bomb Afghanistan himself? Personally lock the cages you are keeping innocent people in? Be caught buying a million shares in Big Bank Inc? I mean, what? What would it take for you to accept that he doesn’t want a weak public option to fool anybody, he wants one because that’s what he’s been bought to deliver?

By: OutWest

OutWest — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:55:51 +0000

Nelson said on NPR Friday, as well as earlier this month, that he would support the public option with triggers, as long as the rest of the bill is acceptable.

He has never committed to supporting the PO without the triggering mechanism. Unfortunately.

By: sumpls

sumpls — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:59:57 +0000

David Swanson on the HC position reflected in O’s speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Bz5DSQWto
I’m afraid that I agree on all points. As a boomer, I guess I suspected deep down this might be coming since Nixon.

By: demi

demi — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:37:12 +0000

Thank you for you response. And, no worries, it’s not for me to understand. I do, however, honor your right to have your own stategy.
I also understand that this is not merely a social site.
I have my own strategy as well.
I’m glad that you feel welcome to make your comments. I’m also glad that you backed down this morning when Christy asked you to do so. That showed character.

By: Swopa

Swopa — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:25:05 +0000

Well, I’ll reserve “genius” accolades until (1) he passes something and (2) we see what’s passed.

Remember James Carville’s comment after Clinton won in ‘92 about the geographical “lock” that the GOP was supposed to have on the WH back then (largely because CA tended to vote Republican)? He said, “We didn’t break the lock, we just picked it.”

It won’t be “genius” for me if Obama passes a weak public option that “picks the lock” and narrowly puts us on a slippery slope that will pay off years or decades from now. If he finds a way to stoke popular support at just the right time to catch the HC industry off guard and force a genuinely robust public option down their collective throat… *that* will be genius, in my book.

By: Morris Sheppard

Morris Sheppard — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:11:44 +0000

Swopa, great minds (you and I, obviously) think alike.

If we’re right, and it is the insurance cos that get punked, then this sneaky shit is the genius of Obama.