Comments on: Early Morning Swim: POTUS Speech Wrap Up http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:11:37 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Indie http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974801 Indie Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:57:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974801 <p>House Republicans were waiving their proposed health care reform bills that they submitted in various committees.</p> House Republicans were waiving their proposed health care reform bills that they submitted in various committees.

]]> By: msmolly http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974764 msmolly Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:49:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974764 <p>Late asking this, but I don’t want to go completely OT in Christy’s thread. Does anyone know what document those lawmakers were waving last night?</p> Late asking this, but I don’t want to go completely OT in Christy’s thread. Does anyone know what document those lawmakers were waving last night?

]]> By: twolf1 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974762 twolf1 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:36:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974762 <p>Does this give you any clues? <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811262" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811262</a></p> <p>I’m a Mac person so all I can do is guess about Windows.</p> Does this give you any clues? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811262

I’m a Mac person so all I can do is guess about Windows.

]]> By: twolf1 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974761 twolf1 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:28:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974761 <p>Is IE set to accept cookies? Also, have you tried Firefox?</p> Is IE set to accept cookies? Also, have you tried Firefox?

]]> By: ralphbon http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974760 ralphbon Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:16:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974760 <p>Hey if they’re still letting YOU in, I think I’d remain grudgingly welcome…</p> Hey if they’re still letting YOU in, I think I’d remain grudgingly welcome…

]]> By: ralphbon http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974759 ralphbon Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:14:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974759 <p>Using IE on Windows XP. I clicked off “Show friendly error messages,” and the error I now get is “Method Not Implemented GET to / not supported.”</p> Using IE on Windows XP. I clicked off “Show friendly error messages,” and the error I now get is “Method Not Implemented GET to / not supported.”

]]> By: CaptCT http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974758 CaptCT Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:11:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974758 <p>The devil is in the details. Obama says his plan will force insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions, prevent them from dropping sick people, etc., but at what cost? </p> <p>How much will premiums rise as a result? Obama says his plan will<br /></p><blockquote>“[cap] out-of pocket expenses. … A middle-class family purchasing health insurance directly from the individual insurance market today could spend up to 50 percent of household income on health care costs because there is no limit on out-of-pocket expenses.” </blockquote> <p>What will that cap be? Is it an annual cap that includes premiums? If the cap is 25% — and includes premiums — that means a family with a household income of $80,000 a year might see their premiums rise from $12,000 a year to $20,000 a year. Doesn’t it?</p> <p>Also, are the price controls legal? Will they be challenged in court?</p> <p>The best option continues to be the Medicare-for-all model, and if that’s not available, then a nonprofit public option to compete with private insurance.</p> The devil is in the details. Obama says his plan will force insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions, prevent them from dropping sick people, etc., but at what cost?

How much will premiums rise as a result? Obama says his plan will

“[cap] out-of pocket expenses. … A middle-class family purchasing health insurance directly from the individual insurance market today could spend up to 50 percent of household income on health care costs because there is no limit on out-of-pocket expenses.”

What will that cap be? Is it an annual cap that includes premiums? If the cap is 25% — and includes premiums — that means a family with a household income of $80,000 a year might see their premiums rise from $12,000 a year to $20,000 a year. Doesn’t it?

Also, are the price controls legal? Will they be challenged in court?

The best option continues to be the Medicare-for-all model, and if that’s not available, then a nonprofit public option to compete with private insurance.

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974757 SouthernDragon Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:11:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974757 <p>Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.</p> <p>US KIA Irak: 4343</p> <p>US KIA Afghanistan: 821</p> <p>Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.</p> <p>Namaste</p> Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak: 4343

US KIA Afghanistan: 821

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

]]> By: Raven http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974756 Raven Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:07:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974756 <p>The pukes have managed to divide an conquer.</p> The pukes have managed to divide an conquer.

]]> By: klynn http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974755 klynn Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:06:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/early-morning-swim-potus-speech-wrap-up/#comment-1974755 <p>Just went to the White House website and read the letter from Teddy to Obama. I great letter.</p> <p>Watched the video’s about the two families who watched the speech with Michelle. Very powerful.</p> Just went to the White House website and read the letter from Teddy to Obama. I great letter.

Watched the video’s about the two families who watched the speech with Michelle. Very powerful.

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