Woooo Hoooo!

George Stephanopoulos, ABC News

He (Obama) was right on the edge of anger,

dirty hippies for using that anger and taking all the killing toys away from the generals

Who was Cantor txting all night long? Planning his Appalachian Trail hike later?

The teabaggers have a new idiot for a hero this morning. Joe the Mouth will soon replace Palin and Joe the Not Plumber on the wingnut circuit. I’ll bet South Carolinians are so proud.

Oh, and Rep Joe Wilson’s website is down “for maintenance.” Imagine that.

Looks like the Seminal’s down for the moment. Emergency vasectomy?

Morning all, A great analysis of conservative derangement syndrome
http://aworldofprogress.com/co…..hinking-2/

Working okay for me. Try the little blue pill. *g*

It’s working fine for me.

The Republicans last night made themselves look like the spoiled, petulant children they are. This, Democrats, are who you are negotiating with. Do you negotiate with your children about staying out late? About hanging out in the wrong places? No. Because they lack the judgement and self control to behave responsibly. Harry Reid is a cephalopod but he needs to be an ADULT cephalopod and come to the conclusion that you can’t negotitate with children. This is far too important for that.

Meanwhile, remember drill here, drill now. Australian brand new rig creats ocean oil slick larger than the state of Connecticut.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..onnecticut

Quite the piece. Thanks.

These two snippets stand out.

It’s not news to anyone that the conservative movement has an authoritarian streak a mile wide and twice as deep. The desperate drive to quiet one’s existential fears by acquiring ultimate control and unaccountable power — rules for thee, but not for me — is at the heart of conservative political theory, economics, and culture.

[snip]

The core problem is that authoritarian logic defines “liberty” in the context of a natural, God-given hierarchy. Freedom is — by definition — a direct function of social status. The higher your status, the more liberty you have to force lesser beings to do your will — including the power to punish them for crossing you, and freedom from the fear that they can or will get back at you in return. Whenever you hear conservatives talking about “freedom” and “liberty,” remember this definition — it’s the codebreaker that allows you to hear the subtext of what they’re really saying to each other. This kind of “freedom” is, in the end, the only kind of liberty that really matters. Since any loss of status automatically dooms them to live under someone else’s thumb, authoritarians will resist giving up power or control (which they see as their “rights”) by any means necessary. Live free or die.

Well said.

Damn, you’re just a wealth of info this morning. Thanks for this second bit. That graphic of Tampa Bay will get a lot of play with the anti-drilling folks here.

OT, sounds like Solicitor General Kagan raised the white flag tacitly admitting that the Supreme Court will likely open the doors allowing corporations to throw even more money into the political process, all in the name of “free speech.” The noble experiment would seem to be drawing to an close.

In recent years, I’ve gained a much better understanding of concepts I had previously never quite grasped. I never really got the Goebbels’ maxim, that a lie repeated often enough is accepted as truth, until I saw it happen during the eight years of Rove and the Bush Administration. Last night, watching Boehner and Cantor, I gained a much better understanding of what it looks like for one to have “a cob up his ass.”

It means we’ll have to work harder. People willing to pound shoe leather and knock on doors, hand out leaflets can make a difference.

Never. Give. Up.

And I’m ready to pound shoe leather and knock on doors! But not for the piece of crap coming out of the Senate Finance Committee. I won’t even dial my phone to do anything for that except oppose it. I would work very hard though for a Constitutional amendment to remove all private money from campaigns though. I’ve long held that position.

to have “a cob up his ass.”

Reminds me of one of the first “dirty” jokes I heard and no, I’m not repeating it.

I wanna see what it really looks like before I endorse or condemn it. Drafts and bs don’t mean anything.

You heard that before the “baldheaded rat”?

Man, Wilson’s outburst is being replayed every half hour on my radio station. I hear it on the NPR headlines at the top of the hour and then again with the local headlines on the half hour.

website is down “for maintenance.”

Maroon.

I don’t remember the bald headed rat joke.

When it is the bill prepared by the insurance industry and goes to K-street rather than other legislators I begin to take on the Inhoff perspective. I ain’t gonna waste my time reading the crap.

Exactly. When I see the final bill out of reconcilliation is the earliest I can render an intelligent opinion on health reform.

Wonder if I could make any dust selling directions to this place to Rethugs.

I think the best thing to come out of last night’s speech was the most eloquent and succinct summation of what the Republican Party has become that we have ever seen. Doubly so because our blood on the highway media just love that kind of thing and they’ll repeat it until we are all sick of it.

Whooooeeeeee, radio is playin’ some really radical tunes this mornin’. Ah, I love the smell of revolution in the mornin’.

And they accomplished it with two words. No shouting, no screaming, no theatrics. Just an idiot opening his mouth. Suck on it, assholes. The trolls oughta be here in 20 minutes or so. Should be interesting today.

Hmm, you weren’t here after the speech. I wasn’t surprised by the reaction of some of the regulars but even the Flamethrower said that was it for him.

Weird. I rebooted but still get http 501/505 error messages trying to access the Seminal. Other FDL sites work fine. Can anyone suggest a fix?

Weird. Did you try clearing the browser’s cache?

Wow. I’ll hafta go back and look. I knew if I got started it’d be way past my bedtime afore I got outta here.

O Dear: Someone is going to bring up the Ga Tech Pug joke….I can bet.

Darn! And I can’t hang around for the trolls. My “loss” I guess. ;)

Good interview on democracynow.org talking about how Paulson threw money out the window a year ago with no plan, no recordkeeping.

Here ya go

http://campaignsilo.firedoglak…..ic-option/

Hey! I think I heard that some place before. Huh! *g*

or the one about UGA!

Given how Joe Wilson has distracted attention from the actual content of Obama’s speech, if he had not existed, it would have been necessary for the Democrats to invent him.

I’m on the side that the other two sides are trying to suppress.

Yup; no luck. Next step, full cookie/history purge.

Maybe call Jason’s boss?

Do you suppose it’s the same one?;))

Another thing to try – if you have a second browser installed on your machine, try going to the seminal using that. if it works, then it’s a problem with your one browser. if not, then hmmmmmm

Dylan Ratigan leads with Obama’s “barnburner of a speech” and the Wilson heckling. Coming up panel of Howard Dean, Conrad, Sherrod Brown, and some Rethug apologist….

Whoa, methinks the Flamethrower be pissed.

I was there, too. Holy crap. We have met the enemy and . . . . .

That’s a pretty good lede. What TV station?

Christy is upstairs…

Just went to the White House website and read the letter from Teddy to Obama. I great letter.

Watched the video’s about the two families who watched the speech with Michelle. Very powerful.

The pukes have managed to divide an conquer.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak: 4343

US KIA Afghanistan: 821

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

The devil is in the details. Obama says his plan will force insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions, prevent them from dropping sick people, etc., but at what cost?

How much will premiums rise as a result? Obama says his plan will

“[cap] out-of pocket expenses. … A middle-class family purchasing health insurance directly from the individual insurance market today could spend up to 50 percent of household income on health care costs because there is no limit on out-of-pocket expenses.”

What will that cap be? Is it an annual cap that includes premiums? If the cap is 25% — and includes premiums — that means a family with a household income of $80,000 a year might see their premiums rise from $12,000 a year to $20,000 a year. Doesn’t it?

Also, are the price controls legal? Will they be challenged in court?

The best option continues to be the Medicare-for-all model, and if that’s not available, then a nonprofit public option to compete with private insurance.

Using IE on Windows XP. I clicked off “Show friendly error messages,” and the error I now get is “Method Not Implemented GET to / not supported.”

Hey if they’re still letting YOU in, I think I’d remain grudgingly welcome…

Is IE set to accept cookies? Also, have you tried Firefox?

Does this give you any clues? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811262

I’m a Mac person so all I can do is guess about Windows.

Late asking this, but I don’t want to go completely OT in Christy’s thread. Does anyone know what document those lawmakers were waving last night?

House Republicans were waiving their proposed health care reform bills that they submitted in various committees.