Comments on: Early Morning Swim: Florida GOP Chief Convinced White House Changed School Speech to Appease Him http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:53:53 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973497 SouthernDragon Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:56:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973497 <p>Go back up to 31, 32, 35, and 37. That’s where this started. I never said anything about Nam, I was connecting comments made at the Lake during the primaries to this guy’s incessant conspiracy stuff. In response I got this thing about monsters. I’m a combat vet and take great offense at VN vets being categorized as monsters. So we went from my hitting on his penchant for conspiracy theories to his ranting about Nam. That was the disconnect.</p> Go back up to 31, 32, 35, and 37. That’s where this started. I never said anything about Nam, I was connecting comments made at the Lake during the primaries to this guy’s incessant conspiracy stuff. In response I got this thing about monsters. I’m a combat vet and take great offense at VN vets being categorized as monsters. So we went from my hitting on his penchant for conspiracy theories to his ranting about Nam. That was the disconnect.

]]> By: solerso http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973489 solerso Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:41:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973489 <p>I think theres a major disconnect here. Those who are too young to remember how furious and all consuming that argument was, dont remember how Vets were demonized by some radicals(of course the radicals were being demonized by almost every part of society)I certainly wasnt trying to demonize vets.I think some of the comments are reflective of some of the commenters’ idea that the war protest and civil rights era was an ideal model for activism. It was effective, in a time before the internet, but it wasnt safe. It was work, There was cracked heads, and many faces went jail.Famillies were torn apart over it. Another thing is the Vietnam vets were a large part of the peace movement. I think I saw you mention that your a are a vet and ex(?) millitary, im glad to see you on the side of the people.Because there isnt a draft. its less of an issue.</p> I think theres a major disconnect here. Those who are too young to remember how furious and all consuming that argument was, dont remember how Vets were demonized by some radicals(of course the radicals were being demonized by almost every part of society)I certainly wasnt trying to demonize vets.I think some of the comments are reflective of some of the commenters’ idea that the war protest and civil rights era was an ideal model for activism. It was effective, in a time before the internet, but it wasnt safe. It was work, There was cracked heads, and many faces went jail.Famillies were torn apart over it. Another thing is the Vietnam vets were a large part of the peace movement. I think I saw you mention that your a are a vet and ex(?) millitary, im glad to see you on the side of the people.Because there isnt a draft. its less of an issue.

]]> By: PlugnPillai http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973357 PlugnPillai Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:32:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973357 <p>Holding on to that last 1 minute of your 15 mins, Mr Greer. Stay Classy, GOP.</p> Holding on to that last 1 minute of your 15 mins, Mr Greer. Stay Classy, GOP.

]]> By: Rixar13 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973311 Rixar13 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:24:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973311 <p>Yeah thanx, I never thought of it that way. Although I just moved here it’s probably illegal hear in Florida too.<br /> “It’s illegal to shit in public waterways.”</p> Yeah thanx, I never thought of it that way. Although I just moved here it’s probably illegal hear in Florida too.
“It’s illegal to shit in public waterways.”

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973310 SouthernDragon Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:28:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973310 <p>Nobody’s arguing about Viet Nam. Read the entire exchange, please, but it does help to have been here at the Lake during the primaries when there were commenters predicting Shrub was going to cancel the general election and declare martial law. That’s what I was referring to in the original comment. I don’t appreciate Viet Nam vets still being painted with the “monster” brush 40 years later.</p> Nobody’s arguing about Viet Nam. Read the entire exchange, please, but it does help to have been here at the Lake during the primaries when there were commenters predicting Shrub was going to cancel the general election and declare martial law. That’s what I was referring to in the original comment. I don’t appreciate Viet Nam vets still being painted with the “monster” brush 40 years later.

]]> By: OldFatGuy http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973309 OldFatGuy Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:02:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973309 <blockquote><p>Clean up America, throw a tea bagger in the river.</p></blockquote> <p>Sorry, can’t do it in my state.</p> <p>It’s illegal to shit in public waterways.</p>

Clean up America, throw a tea bagger in the river.

Sorry, can’t do it in my state.

It’s illegal to shit in public waterways.

]]> By: solerso http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973308 solerso Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:50:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973308 <p>was that a joke?</p> was that a joke?

]]> By: solerso http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973307 solerso Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:45:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973307 <p>Why are people in here arguing about vietnam? it turned out pretty good for them, not so good for the U.S. But Its nothing to argue over, The Vietnam war and the popular resistance to it are part of the over arching history of american imperialism, which DOES lead us right up to this day.</p> Why are people in here arguing about vietnam? it turned out pretty good for them, not so good for the U.S. But Its nothing to argue over, The Vietnam war and the popular resistance to it are part of the over arching history of american imperialism, which DOES lead us right up to this day.

]]> By: solerso http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973306 solerso Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:39:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973306 <p>As good as France’s</p> As good as France’s

]]> By: Clavis http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973303 Clavis Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:27:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/08/early-morning-swim-florida-gop-chief-convinced-white-house-changed-school-speech-to-appease-him/#comment-1973303 <p>Republicans today are bigots and deserve nothing but contempt.</p> Republicans today are bigots and deserve nothing but contempt.

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