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	<title>Comments on: Late Night: Oh, Tosh. Are There No Emergency Rooms?</title>
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		<title>By: greenharper</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973236</link>
		<dc:creator>greenharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve wondered about that myself.  Getting rather tired of Presidents who seem to be acting their personal parental psycho stuff on the national stage and involving us all in the damage.  Oh. Oedipus.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve wondered about that myself.  Getting rather tired of Presidents who seem to be acting their personal parental psycho stuff on the national stage and involving us all in the damage.  Oh. Oedipus.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973217</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You haven’t a clue.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit.</p>
<p>You haven’t a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mile23</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973211</link>
		<dc:creator>Mile23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s how you say it:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they say, “You can always go to the emergency room…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You say, “Ahh, then you DO want to socialize health care! How are you going to pay for the increased health care costs involved?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You don’t joke about Charles Dickens novels, you just take the argument for what it is: An endorsement of socialized health care, delivered through hospital ERs and fire stations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So the logical question is: Since you want health care to be delivered by hospitals and fire stations, how do you propose to pay for the increased number of doctors and firefighters needed to implement your plan? How will you pay for retooling and expanding the ER to be a general care facility? Will insurance companies pay for it? Will Republicans pay for it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s their policy: The ER is health care. So do some aikido. Find out from them how they’ll implement it so that there aren’t waits, and cost is minimized. Just ask. See if they have an answer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, shoot…. If we end up with socialized medicine at hospital ERs, and firefighters are general practitioners, then FINE. Go for it. How does it work?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s how you say it:</p>
<p>If they say, “You can always go to the emergency room…”</p>
<p>You say, “Ahh, then you DO want to socialize health care! How are you going to pay for the increased health care costs involved?”</p>
<p>You don’t joke about Charles Dickens novels, you just take the argument for what it is: An endorsement of socialized health care, delivered through hospital ERs and fire stations.</p>
<p>So the logical question is: Since you want health care to be delivered by hospitals and fire stations, how do you propose to pay for the increased number of doctors and firefighters needed to implement your plan? How will you pay for retooling and expanding the ER to be a general care facility? Will insurance companies pay for it? Will Republicans pay for it?</p>
<p>That’s their policy: The ER is health care. So do some aikido. Find out from them how they’ll implement it so that there aren’t waits, and cost is minimized. Just ask. See if they have an answer.</p>
<p>I mean, shoot…. If we end up with socialized medicine at hospital ERs, and firefighters are general practitioners, then FINE. Go for it. How does it work?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidByron</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973181</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidByron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you want to understand the right — and I do think that is important — then go with science not this pseudo-psychiatry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Suggest you re-read Bob Altemeyer’s book on line:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;To understand how the Republican brain processes the concept of health care coverage….&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First of all understand there is no one concept for them because authoritarians have very tightly compartmentalised brains.  That’s why they make little sense, contradict themselves all the time and are so hypocritical.  They have “health care” in a real world sense and then again they have “health care” in a debate about politics sense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s why they can say “don’t let the government get their hands on medicare”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not that they don’t understand, they just don’t draw any connection between real life health care (their precious medicare) and politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to understand the right — and I do think that is important — then go with science not this pseudo-psychiatry.</p>
<p>Suggest you re-read Bob Altemeyer’s book on line:<br /><a href="http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/" rel="nofollow">http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/</a></p>
<p><i>To understand how the Republican brain processes the concept of health care coverage….</i></p>
<p>First of all understand there is no one concept for them because authoritarians have very tightly compartmentalised brains.  That’s why they make little sense, contradict themselves all the time and are so hypocritical.  They have “health care” in a real world sense and then again they have “health care” in a debate about politics sense.</p>
<p>That’s why they can say “don’t let the government get their hands on medicare”.</p>
<p>It’s not that they don’t understand, they just don’t draw any connection between real life health care (their precious medicare) and politics.</p>
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		<title>By: hellian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973178</link>
		<dc:creator>hellian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just saw where some one had already put up the article but a link shows where it came from and that it was reported on and that they are real numbers not made up ones.Too bad we could not get some from each state&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw where some one had already put up the article but a link shows where it came from and that it was reported on and that they are real numbers not made up ones.Too bad we could not get some from each state</p>
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		<title>By: hellian</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973173</link>
		<dc:creator>hellian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sarahpalintruthsquad.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/californias-real-death-panels-insurers-deny-21-of-claims/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sarahpalintruthsquad.wo.....of-claims/&lt;/a&gt; article on insurance companies and their denial of claims that cost lives. I think this is the link about health insurance in California someone was looking for about denied claims from health insurance companies and this is only California&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sarahpalintruthsquad.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/californias-real-death-panels-insurers-deny-21-of-claims/" rel="nofollow">http://sarahpalintruthsquad.wo&#8230;..of-claims/</a> article on insurance companies and their denial of claims that cost lives. I think this is the link about health insurance in California someone was looking for about denied claims from health insurance companies and this is only California</p>
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		<title>By: tbsa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973169</link>
		<dc:creator>tbsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, they assisted us with finally getting a diagnosis.  It’s a hardship to travel there for all the appointments though.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know what the really sad thing is, if my husband lost his job and we lost the medical insurance we have we would really be screwed as our child would then have a pre existing condition and no one else would take him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they assisted us with finally getting a diagnosis.  It’s a hardship to travel there for all the appointments though.  </p>
<p>You know what the really sad thing is, if my husband lost his job and we lost the medical insurance we have we would really be screwed as our child would then have a pre existing condition and no one else would take him.</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;here Newt: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.calnurses.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.calnurses.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here Newt: <a href="http://www.calnurses.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.calnurses.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/late-night-oh-tosh-are-there-no-emergency-rooms/#comment-1973164</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Link appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Dearie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dearie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, this stuff is tearing the country (and individual families) apart.  I’ve never seen the likes.  I didn’t like Reagan, but I never saw this rancor.  I understood why my brother didn’t like Carter or Clinton.  I hated Bush. But I have never seen the likes of this stuff.  I actually do believe that it has something to do with race as much as it has to do with class.  I think white men of a certain ego-dysfunction are just spitting mad.  So abused they are.  So much they have lost.  It is very sad.  Also very troubling.  Also kind of drawing some lines.  I have to be nice to my brother because he controls my health insurance and I’m afraid I couldn’t get coverage.  When I go Medicare, I wonder what family feelings will be left.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, this stuff is tearing the country (and individual families) apart.  I’ve never seen the likes.  I didn’t like Reagan, but I never saw this rancor.  I understood why my brother didn’t like Carter or Clinton.  I hated Bush. But I have never seen the likes of this stuff.  I actually do believe that it has something to do with race as much as it has to do with class.  I think white men of a certain ego-dysfunction are just spitting mad.  So abused they are.  So much they have lost.  It is very sad.  Also very troubling.  Also kind of drawing some lines.  I have to be nice to my brother because he controls my health insurance and I’m afraid I couldn’t get coverage.  When I go Medicare, I wonder what family feelings will be left.</p>
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