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	<title>Comments on: Is There Anything More Ridiculous Than Republicans Complaining about &#8220;Extremist Views and Coarse Rhetoric&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: stunted</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/06/is-there-anything-more-ridiculous-than-republicans-complaining-about-extremist-views-and-course-rhetoric/#comment-1972431</link>
		<dc:creator>stunted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So it’s blind support? Follow the party doctrine? Love it or leave it? I didn’t read much desire to shame the shameless or threaten the irrational in the comments critical of this latest White House ejection. What I read was criticism for not standing firm on something worth defending against laughably insufficient grounds for dismissal. A desire to see some backbone does not translate as self-generated rage and as for it being directed at one of our own, I guess that depends on how you define yourself and how this White House is defining itself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it’s blind support? Follow the party doctrine? Love it or leave it? I didn’t read much desire to shame the shameless or threaten the irrational in the comments critical of this latest White House ejection. What I read was criticism for not standing firm on something worth defending against laughably insufficient grounds for dismissal. A desire to see some backbone does not translate as self-generated rage and as for it being directed at one of our own, I guess that depends on how you define yourself and how this White House is defining itself.</p>
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		<title>By: PeorgieTirebiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeorgieTirebiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While I agree with the sentiment, the overwrought anger being directed at the white house is dumb. Other than a spike in Beck’s ratings, is anyone naive enough to believe that any defense of Jones would have &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; effect whatsoever on these clowns?&lt;br /&gt;
You can’t shame the shameless and you can’t threaten the irrational.&lt;br /&gt;
But in all our self generated rage at one of our own, we our forgetting who it is the GOP is really trying to lynch. Let’s not give them any help.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the sentiment, the overwrought anger being directed at the white house is dumb. Other than a spike in Beck’s ratings, is anyone naive enough to believe that any defense of Jones would have <em>any</em> effect whatsoever on these clowns?<br />
You can’t shame the shameless and you can’t threaten the irrational.<br />
But in all our self generated rage at one of our own, we our forgetting who it is the GOP is really trying to lynch. Let’s not give them any help.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeBuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeBuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This kind of thing was classic Clinton stuff.  Bill Clinton would regularly dump anyone who came under harsh criticism from the right; for example, when Lani Guinier was falsely attacked for being a “quota queen” which was exactly the opposite of her position, Clinton refused to defend her and just dumped her.  Not only that, but she was hanging out there in limbo for a while and, if I recall correctly, not allowed to make statements defending herself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately Obama staffed his administration almost entirely from those people and he’s just the same way.  To both the Clintons and to Obama, progressives are an inconvenient annoyance, getting in the way of their plans to build consensus deals between all the “stakeholders” (all the big-money players, that is).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of thing was classic Clinton stuff.  Bill Clinton would regularly dump anyone who came under harsh criticism from the right; for example, when Lani Guinier was falsely attacked for being a “quota queen” which was exactly the opposite of her position, Clinton refused to defend her and just dumped her.  Not only that, but she was hanging out there in limbo for a while and, if I recall correctly, not allowed to make statements defending herself.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Obama staffed his administration almost entirely from those people and he’s just the same way.  To both the Clintons and to Obama, progressives are an inconvenient annoyance, getting in the way of their plans to build consensus deals between all the “stakeholders” (all the big-money players, that is).</p>
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		<title>By: MollyNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MollyNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Is There Anything More Ridiculous Than Republicans Complaining about “Extremist Views and Coarse Rhetoric”?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Arguably, yes: when they complain about either (a) irresponsible behavior; or (b) situation ethics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Is There Anything More Ridiculous Than Republicans Complaining about “Extremist Views and Coarse Rhetoric”?</em></p>
<p>Arguably, yes: when they complain about either (a) irresponsible behavior; or (b) situation ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: billjanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>billjanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Obama administration’s waffling and capitulation to the Republican Party sends the following message:&lt;br /&gt;
1) We’re going to let the Republicans set the rules for us to play by and behave by.&lt;br /&gt;
2) We’re going to be held accountable to the Republicans’ rules.&lt;br /&gt;
3) We want to be judged by the Republicans’ rules.&lt;br /&gt;
These foretell the defeat of Obama and the Democrats in the next election, because:&lt;br /&gt;
A) The Republicans rules for themselves do not include the rules of play and behavior applied to the Democrats.&lt;br /&gt;
B) The Republicans will not be held accountable to the rules applied to Democrats.&lt;br /&gt;
C) The Republicans will not be judged nor will they judge themselves based on the rules they’ve laid down for the Democrats.&lt;br /&gt;
Witness the following Republican duplicities:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Anyone who questions the Republican President is a traitor. But for a Democratic President, prohibit children from listening to his start of school address.&lt;br /&gt;
2. Bipartisanship is an un-holy practice for Republicans when in power. If Democrats do not practice bipartisanship, they are ‘tearing the country apart’.&lt;br /&gt;
3. Republicans use economic pressures in addition to political pressures - e.g. boycott the Dixie Chicks for saying their ashamed Geo Bush is from Texas, but, when liberals boycott those who supported anti-gay legislation in CA or boycott Whole Foods for peddling Ayn Rand baloney about health care reform - they are accused of  ‘being un-fair’.&lt;br /&gt;
4. When Republicans sponsor end of life counseling they’re ‘compassionate’, when Democrats do it, it’s death panels.&lt;br /&gt;
Shall we go on……&lt;br /&gt;
When Obama lets the Republicans impose the rules, whether about ‘repugnant’ and ‘radical’ speech or ‘bipartisanship’, Obama will be seen as ‘weak’, ’someone who cant fight’ or a fool who will always takes th sucker punch. These perceptions will help defeat Obama in the next election. Please, stop with this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama administration’s waffling and capitulation to the Republican Party sends the following message:<br />
1) We’re going to let the Republicans set the rules for us to play by and behave by.<br />
2) We’re going to be held accountable to the Republicans’ rules.<br />
3) We want to be judged by the Republicans’ rules.<br />
These foretell the defeat of Obama and the Democrats in the next election, because:<br />
A) The Republicans rules for themselves do not include the rules of play and behavior applied to the Democrats.<br />
B) The Republicans will not be held accountable to the rules applied to Democrats.<br />
C) The Republicans will not be judged nor will they judge themselves based on the rules they’ve laid down for the Democrats.<br />
Witness the following Republican duplicities:<br />
1. Anyone who questions the Republican President is a traitor. But for a Democratic President, prohibit children from listening to his start of school address.<br />
2. Bipartisanship is an un-holy practice for Republicans when in power. If Democrats do not practice bipartisanship, they are ‘tearing the country apart’.<br />
3. Republicans use economic pressures in addition to political pressures &#8211; e.g. boycott the Dixie Chicks for saying their ashamed Geo Bush is from Texas, but, when liberals boycott those who supported anti-gay legislation in CA or boycott Whole Foods for peddling Ayn Rand baloney about health care reform &#8211; they are accused of  ‘being un-fair’.<br />
4. When Republicans sponsor end of life counseling they’re ‘compassionate’, when Democrats do it, it’s death panels.<br />
Shall we go on……<br />
When Obama lets the Republicans impose the rules, whether about ‘repugnant’ and ‘radical’ speech or ‘bipartisanship’, Obama will be seen as ‘weak’, ’someone who cant fight’ or a fool who will always takes th sucker punch. These perceptions will help defeat Obama in the next election. Please, stop with this.</p>
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		<title>By: temptingfate</title>
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		<dc:creator>temptingfate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The worst thing to do when being bullied is to prove you are scared.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once again we find ourselves watching the President representing the Democratic party throwing their team under the bus, one member at a time.  First we had Clinton who never had a sherd of loyalty towards the people he worked with and now we get to watch the same sad spectacle again.  Somehow we get stuck with these jellyfish, who keep wanting to be loved by Republicans, never seem to understand that the act of caving is what most conservatives really hate.  They’re not smart enough to understand very act of wimping out is what generates most of the hostility.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Three and a half more years of spineless, self-doubters who stand for nothing, really wish that the Republicans would just like them for themselves and invite them on dates to exotic places.  This is going to be painful.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst thing to do when being bullied is to prove you are scared.</p>
<p>Once again we find ourselves watching the President representing the Democratic party throwing their team under the bus, one member at a time.  First we had Clinton who never had a sherd of loyalty towards the people he worked with and now we get to watch the same sad spectacle again.  Somehow we get stuck with these jellyfish, who keep wanting to be loved by Republicans, never seem to understand that the act of caving is what most conservatives really hate.  They’re not smart enough to understand very act of wimping out is what generates most of the hostility.</p>
<p>Three and a half more years of spineless, self-doubters who stand for nothing, really wish that the Republicans would just like them for themselves and invite them on dates to exotic places.  This is going to be painful.</p>
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		<title>By: darkblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’s quite good at grabbing the ankles, I’m told.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’s quite good at grabbing the ankles, I’m told.</p>
<p>;&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: DrDick</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think of it more as being really kinky rather than flexible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of it more as being really kinky rather than flexible.</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZ Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn’t know Rush was that flexible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t know Rush was that flexible.</p>
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		<title>By: darkblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can never tell what will &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3470394675_aa1539b77e_m.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tickle the fancy&lt;/a&gt; of the public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can never tell what will <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3470394675_aa1539b77e_m.jpg" rel="nofollow">tickle the fancy</a> of the public.</p>
<p>;&gt;)</p>
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