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	<title>Comments on: FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thom Hartmann, Threshold: The Crisis of Western Culture</title>
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		<title>By: Mommybrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mommybrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scalia - yes&lt;br /&gt;
Alito - probably, but comes not from Alito’s lips&lt;br /&gt;
Roberts - Mark Crispin Miller says yes - but not from Roberts himself&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s it…maybe all that’s necessary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sotomayor not part of the ladies auxilliary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scalia &#8211; yes<br />
Alito &#8211; probably, but comes not from Alito’s lips<br />
Roberts &#8211; Mark Crispin Miller says yes &#8211; but not from Roberts himself</p>
<p>That’s it…maybe all that’s necessary.</p>
<p>Sotomayor not part of the ladies auxilliary.</p>
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		<title>By: booyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>booyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh my god… I had no IDEA that the five of them belong to to a hard right wing Catholic Church… Jesus, between the C Street group, and these guys, and the military right wing Xtian power structure…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WTF?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god… I had no IDEA that the five of them belong to to a hard right wing Catholic Church… Jesus, between the C Street group, and these guys, and the military right wing Xtian power structure…</p>
<p>WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: booyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>booyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really think this is our only hope for the country…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Citizen media… thank you for leading the charge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(When you commented upthread that we need to organize like the anti-choice people… my first thought was, “but, but…. they had Dobson, Limbaugh and some other nutcases leading their charge and organizing them.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will support your endeavors and spread the word to all my friends and family (well, those that aren’t part of the Religious Reich!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think this is our only hope for the country…</p>
<p>Citizen media… thank you for leading the charge.</p>
<p>(When you commented upthread that we need to organize like the anti-choice people… my first thought was, “but, but…. they had Dobson, Limbaugh and some other nutcases leading their charge and organizing them.”</p>
<p>I will support your endeavors and spread the word to all my friends and family (well, those that aren’t part of the Religious Reich!)</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think you’re too optimistic about how people are going to react when the Reich tries to take over. When the real Reichmeisters were issuing all the executive orders detailing the executive’s powers in case of any national security threat anywhere, there wasn’t a peep from the media or from the second amendment lunatics (that is not aimed at gun owners; I own 5 rifles and numerous handguns). But let someone “other” try changing something, and not even doing a good job at that, and the nuts come out of the woodwork spouting Bircher bullshit and showing their ignorance at every chance they get.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think quite a few people would line up behind people like Beck, Hannity, and the other propagandists ready to kill, that’s right, kill those of us who stand up for what America should be and once was. Not the “The Way We Never Were” way of Stephanie Coontz but the way some of the people here today remember: being able to walk to school without having to worry about being kidnapped or molested, playing outside after dark and our parents knew it was OK because just as they watched out for others’ kids, those folks were watching out for us, things like that. What has been exhibited in this country during this fiasco over health care - and a debate it ain’t - is damned scary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember reading Unequal Protection and just about throwing the book across the room when the part about Santa Clara was explained. Just like that everything changes, right? The Fourteenth Amendment was never implemented as it should have been to help the freedmen and poor whites, but a goddamn corporation gets whatever it wants because of some dicta, hell, not even dicta, a clerk’s writings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to do something, but it’s very hard to get people on the other side to listen, to get them away from the cult of Reagan and the lies that continue to be perpetrated to keep that myth alive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you’re too optimistic about how people are going to react when the Reich tries to take over. When the real Reichmeisters were issuing all the executive orders detailing the executive’s powers in case of any national security threat anywhere, there wasn’t a peep from the media or from the second amendment lunatics (that is not aimed at gun owners; I own 5 rifles and numerous handguns). But let someone “other” try changing something, and not even doing a good job at that, and the nuts come out of the woodwork spouting Bircher bullshit and showing their ignorance at every chance they get.</p>
<p>I think quite a few people would line up behind people like Beck, Hannity, and the other propagandists ready to kill, that’s right, kill those of us who stand up for what America should be and once was. Not the “The Way We Never Were” way of Stephanie Coontz but the way some of the people here today remember: being able to walk to school without having to worry about being kidnapped or molested, playing outside after dark and our parents knew it was OK because just as they watched out for others’ kids, those folks were watching out for us, things like that. What has been exhibited in this country during this fiasco over health care &#8211; and a debate it ain’t &#8211; is damned scary.</p>
<p>I remember reading Unequal Protection and just about throwing the book across the room when the part about Santa Clara was explained. Just like that everything changes, right? The Fourteenth Amendment was never implemented as it should have been to help the freedmen and poor whites, but a goddamn corporation gets whatever it wants because of some dicta, hell, not even dicta, a clerk’s writings.</p>
<p>We need to do something, but it’s very hard to get people on the other side to listen, to get them away from the cult of Reagan and the lies that continue to be perpetrated to keep that myth alive.</p>
<p>Thanks for your work.</p>
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		<title>By: booyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>booyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In case you come back… I just ordered it and can’t wait to read it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I first discovered your writings through having ADD…. thank you, thank you for all your work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you come back… I just ordered it and can’t wait to read it.</p>
<p>I first discovered your writings through having ADD…. thank you, thank you for all your work.</p>
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		<title>By: parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I used to joke about Negroponte keeping a shrunken head of a real Guatemalan on his desk for a paperweight.  At least I thought it was a joke.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to joke about Negroponte keeping a shrunken head of a real Guatemalan on his desk for a paperweight.  At least I thought it was a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommybrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mommybrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re:  the upcoming Citizen’s United Supreme Court case and getting the word out -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Educamate yourselves about the case, tell friends and write letters to the editor of your hometown rag (if you have one left).  Write to and engage the reporters who will be covering it.  People who are engaged but not necessarily wide readers read the letters.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Spocko has some great ideas on how to counter the right’s spin on pretty much everything. By politely and professionally contacting reporters with another side to a story we have an opportunity to reframe the debate in their eyes and give them another lense to look through.  I don’t know if he’s posted it yet, but there should be a Seminal diary soon.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s vital that we are ahead of this before it’s heard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  the upcoming Citizen’s United Supreme Court case and getting the word out -</p>
<p>Educamate yourselves about the case, tell friends and write letters to the editor of your hometown rag (if you have one left).  Write to and engage the reporters who will be covering it.  People who are engaged but not necessarily wide readers read the letters.  </p>
<p>Spocko has some great ideas on how to counter the right’s spin on pretty much everything. By politely and professionally contacting reporters with another side to a story we have an opportunity to reframe the debate in their eyes and give them another lense to look through.  I don’t know if he’s posted it yet, but there should be a Seminal diary soon.  </p>
<p>It’s vital that we are ahead of this before it’s heard.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m praying he nevers plays the pro-Choice chip.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m praying he nevers plays the pro-Choice chip.</p>
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		<title>By: marymccurnin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marymccurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I second that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom Hartmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom Hartmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oops - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salemchildrensvillage.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.salemchildrensvillage.org&lt;/a&gt; is Salem’s URL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Raven and everybody!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8211; <a href="http://www.salemchildrensvillage.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.salemchildrensvillage.org</a> is Salem’s URL.</p>
<p>Thanks, Raven and everybody!</p>
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