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		<title>By: allan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971133</link>
		<dc:creator>allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Radio Rwanda has finally  found something so heinous that even they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/04/fox-wont-broadcast-obama-_n_277945.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;won’t broadcast it&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radio Rwanda has finally  found something so heinous that even they <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/04/fox-wont-broadcast-obama-_n_277945.html" rel="nofollow">won’t broadcast it</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971131</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe Cujo will see this … a post is needed because it’s a good question, but hardly now. Maybe after allergy season, or something.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My guess: what’s special about Chicago politics is not venality —hardly!— but operating style. An overview is available &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Heres-Deal-Making-Breaking-American/dp/0810120372/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1252151288&amp;sr=1-2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in this book&lt;/a&gt;, especially chs. 1&amp;2. I see Amazon is almost out of stock; could be quite relevant, or at least there are a lot of enquiring minds turning to a book that’s been out 6 years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Cujo will see this … a post is needed because it’s a good question, but hardly now. Maybe after allergy season, or something.</p>
<p>My guess: what’s special about Chicago politics is not venality —hardly!— but operating style. An overview is available <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Heres-Deal-Making-Breaking-American/dp/0810120372/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1252151288&amp;sr=1-2" rel="nofollow">in this book</a>, especially chs. 1&amp;2. I see Amazon is almost out of stock; could be quite relevant, or at least there are a lot of enquiring minds turning to a book that’s been out 6 years.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971130</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess that either &lt;a href=&quot;http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/05/good-finance-gone-bad/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Simon Johnson&lt;/a&gt; is presently in the other hemisphere, or else &lt;a href=&quot;http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/05/good-finance-gone-bad/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thought&lt;/a&gt; was keeping him up Friday night:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Private sector capture of the state is bad enough, wherever it happens in the world.  But when the capturers have an unparalleled ability and willingness to “tax” the rest of us, we should really be afraid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning.</p>
<p>I guess that either <a href="http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/05/good-finance-gone-bad/" rel="nofollow">Simon Johnson</a> is presently in the other hemisphere, or else <a href="http://baselinescenario.com/2009/09/05/good-finance-gone-bad/" rel="nofollow">this thought</a> was keeping him up Friday night:</p>
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Private sector capture of the state is bad enough, wherever it happens in the world.  But when the capturers have an unparalleled ability and willingness to “tax” the rest of us, we should really be afraid.
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971129</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning, pups.  It’s Collins, Blow and Herbert today.  Ms. Collins has “An End of Summer Quiz:”  The theme for the summer of ’09? How about “Ghoulish”? It’s not a word you normally attach to “vacation season,” yet here we are. Have you been paying attention?  Mr. Blow, in “The Prince of Dispassion,” says in debates, and particularly in the health care debate, facts are not sufficient. President Obama needs to move Americans with passion, conviction and faith.  Mr. Herbert, in “Reliving the Past,” says President Obama is being told, as Lyndon Johnson was told about Vietnam, that more resources will do the trick in Afghanistan. It is no truer now than it was true then.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here they are&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got French toast with warm maple syrup this morning.  Ah — adventures in home repair.  Hoover pushed out the corner of a screen (BAD kitteh…) so today I embark upon my first adventure in replacing window screening.  I’m full of theoretical knowledge, but practical experience is sadly lacking.  Wish me luck!  Have a great day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, pups.  It’s Collins, Blow and Herbert today.  Ms. Collins has “An End of Summer Quiz:”  The theme for the summer of ’09? How about “Ghoulish”? It’s not a word you normally attach to “vacation season,” yet here we are. Have you been paying attention?  Mr. Blow, in “The Prince of Dispassion,” says in debates, and particularly in the health care debate, facts are not sufficient. President Obama needs to move Americans with passion, conviction and faith.  Mr. Herbert, in “Reliving the Past,” says President Obama is being told, as Lyndon Johnson was told about Vietnam, that more resources will do the trick in Afghanistan. It is no truer now than it was true then.</p>
<p><a href="http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Here they are</a>.</p>
<p>The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got French toast with warm maple syrup this morning.  Ah — adventures in home repair.  Hoover pushed out the corner of a screen (BAD kitteh…) so today I embark upon my first adventure in replacing window screening.  I’m full of theoretical knowledge, but practical experience is sadly lacking.  Wish me luck!  Have a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: solai</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971128</link>
		<dc:creator>solai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning firepups. Anyone up?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971126</link>
		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyway, with that, I’ll say goodnight.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, with that, I’ll say goodnight.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971125</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’ve played the “let’s limit the damage” game by electing anyone who was willing to call himself a Democrat, and look where it’s gotten us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We weren’t wrong. Just unfortunate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am out, too. nite pups&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We’ve played the “let’s limit the damage” game by electing anyone who was willing to call himself a Democrat, and look where it’s gotten us.</p>
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<p>We weren’t wrong. Just unfortunate.</p>
<p>I am out, too. nite pups</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe, but the one thing that remains true in politics is that they’re always changing. I really don’t even want to predict what’s going to happen in the 2010 elections right now. It’s too far away, and there are lots of things that are uncertain. I think the best course is to keep on plugging. Elect progressives where we can, and try to get at one chamber nominally under control of progressives. Right now, that looks like the House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any case, we really don’t have many choices, do we? If Obama won’t lead, then he’s toast. The thing to do is figure out how to minimize the damage and move on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Things are going to be bad in the U.S. for the next few years, regardless of what we do at this point. The unemployment, the real unemployment, will remain high. Hopefully, we can rebuild some in the meantime, and make some investments in the future. To do that, though, we need to change the balance of power in Congress, and in the White House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I find it hard to be Mr. Positive, but when you only have crummy choices, you pick the best one. We’ve played the “let’s limit the damage” game by electing anyone who was willing to call himself a Democrat, and look where it’s gotten us. If all we do for the next few years is keep these guys from fucking up any more, then at least we’ve done more than has been done in the last decade. We’ll just have to build from there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, I can tell it’s late, because I can barely write anything coherent. I’ll stop now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, wait, I’ll just add one more thing. Much of the rest of the world built itself back up at the end of WWII. That’s one of the reasons we have such a time competing now (although I’d say it’s the least of them). Korea was a burnt-out husk in 1953. They built themselves into a power in less than thirty-five years. They did that by being industrious and by educating themselves. I was amazed at what I saw there back then, and it was easy to tell where they were headed. Societies can come back. They’ve come back from worse than we’ve managed to do to ourselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, but the one thing that remains true in politics is that they’re always changing. I really don’t even want to predict what’s going to happen in the 2010 elections right now. It’s too far away, and there are lots of things that are uncertain. I think the best course is to keep on plugging. Elect progressives where we can, and try to get at one chamber nominally under control of progressives. Right now, that looks like the House.</p>
<p>In any case, we really don’t have many choices, do we? If Obama won’t lead, then he’s toast. The thing to do is figure out how to minimize the damage and move on.</p>
<p>Things are going to be bad in the U.S. for the next few years, regardless of what we do at this point. The unemployment, the real unemployment, will remain high. Hopefully, we can rebuild some in the meantime, and make some investments in the future. To do that, though, we need to change the balance of power in Congress, and in the White House.</p>
<p>Anyway, I find it hard to be Mr. Positive, but when you only have crummy choices, you pick the best one. We’ve played the “let’s limit the damage” game by electing anyone who was willing to call himself a Democrat, and look where it’s gotten us. If all we do for the next few years is keep these guys from fucking up any more, then at least we’ve done more than has been done in the last decade. We’ll just have to build from there.</p>
<p>Well, I can tell it’s late, because I can barely write anything coherent. I’ll stop now.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, I’ll just add one more thing. Much of the rest of the world built itself back up at the end of WWII. That’s one of the reasons we have such a time competing now (although I’d say it’s the least of them). Korea was a burnt-out husk in 1953. They built themselves into a power in less than thirty-five years. They did that by being industrious and by educating themselves. I was amazed at what I saw there back then, and it was easy to tell where they were headed. Societies can come back. They’ve come back from worse than we’ve managed to do to ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971123</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed.  There’s nothing better for Democracy than getting off your ass.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  There’s nothing better for Democracy than getting off your ass.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/04/late-late-night-fdl-club-poodle-16/#comment-1971122</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One more late-night thought along these lines:&lt;br /&gt;
If I were &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the current Ambassador to China (and former Utah Governor)&lt;/a&gt; - Republican Jon Huntsman - I would be watching that joint session very, very closely. He is a tremendously attractive candidate.&lt;br /&gt;
As Teddy mentioned once (and I agree with him), politically, there is very little to distinguish Huntsman from Obama.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more late-night thought along these lines:<br />
If I were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr." rel="nofollow">the current Ambassador to China (and former Utah Governor)</a> &#8211; Republican Jon Huntsman &#8211; I would be watching that joint session very, very closely. He is a tremendously attractive candidate.<br />
As Teddy mentioned once (and I agree with him), politically, there is very little to distinguish Huntsman from Obama.</p>
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