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I think Ezra Klein’s a smart guy, but I found his response to this post deeply unconvincing. To support his assertion that the 2001 tax cuts were some sort of half loaf Bush had to accept in the face of centrist opposition in the Senate, Klein writes,
Bush initially sought a $1.6 trillion tax cut. The votes didn’t exist. So the price tag was reduced to $1.35 trillion, and since a filibuster looked unbreakable, the bill went through the budget reconciliation process, which meant that its deficit-increasing provisions — that is to say, most all of it — would sunset in 2010.
Weak tea. Bush gets the biggest tax cuts since 1981 through the Senate via reconciliation, with 85% of the total he asked for, and that’s some bitter centrist pill he was forced to swallow? And how does Klein know that Bush just didn’t negotiate smartly, making the opening bid higher in anticipation of a hair cut during the negotiations?
Also, if conservatives were disappointed in the tax cuts, I don’t remember them complaining.
Harvard Professor Roger Porter, who has worked for three Republican Administrations, says the President has kept his word through new tax policies that included across the board tax cuts, doubling the child care credit, and a reduction in estate taxes.
"He got an enormous amount done,” said Porter, with the Kennedy School of Government.
"There is no question whatsoever that an objective observer would have to conclude that he did in fact achieve the goals that he established,” said Porter.
Klein adds,
Medicare Part D was loathed by many House conservatives. Tellingly, Dick Armey wrote an op-ed opposing it, and Tom DeLay had such trouble passing it over conservative objections that the Department of Justice opened an investigation into the tactics he used to pass it.
That’s right — it um, passed.
Back to Klein,
There’s a sort of comfort in believing that George W. Bush got everything he wanted, because it suggests that if liberals could only emulate his tactics, they too could get everything they want. But Bush’s domestic policy was appalling to most conservatives.
Again, Klein and I recall the Bush era differently, because I don’t remember a conservative rebellion against Bush. The fact is, conservatives were the only group to support him until the bitter end.
Anyway, that’s a red herring. The issue isn’t whether Bush was insufficiently conservative for his base, the issue is whether or not he was successful in getting the legislation he wanted through congress. And the record shows that he was, until his presidency was crippled by Iraq and Katrina. And Bush, unlike Obama, didn’t enter the White House with huge partisan margins in both houses, after winning the bigger percentage of the popular vote than Ronald Reagan in 1980.
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those “tax cuts” should have been what the presient used to reclaim middle class assets, he SHOULD have said;
“the economic investments under previous adminsitrations have not yielded anything and in fact have gigen us negative return, we are going to discontinue that stimulous program and reinvest in more productive stimuli”
bing, done
but of course, no, instead he wants to call it “taxing the wealthy” which of couse is a non starter
Wasn’t Klein a teenager when the Bush tax cuts were passed through Congress?
Who is this Ezra Klein guy, anyway? I don’t mean to insult 25-year olds, but until proven otherwise, I tend to take what they say with a punch of salt.
O/T: Can anyone tell me how I might go about targeting a congressman for the 2010 race? I am embarrassed to say that my “representative” is Ken Calvert, a Grade-A Dirtbag. I called his local office this morning on the health care thing and hit the wall very hard. I paraphrase: “Our callers are against a public option, blah, blah, blah…” Trying to explain that such data was (to put it nicely) unscientific was like trying to teach calculus to a cage of hyenas.
This guy has long since overstayed his welcome. He needs to go. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
http://www.opensecrets.org/rac…..38;id=CA44
How the fuck would Klein know? He was 17 years old in 2001 for cryin’ out loud. Might as well have still been shittin’ yellow.
Wasn’t Klein
a teenagerbarely finished weaning when the Bush tax cuts were passed through Congress?Fixed it.
Fuckin’ A.
I love this site. Really.
But I could click on this site for another million years and not see a picture of that summbitch and it would be too soon.
Did you have to have that asshats photo for this entry?
My fault, I know, I shouldn’t, but the fucking site of that cretan gets my damned blood pressure up.
for “a smart guy”, Klein certainly seems to say and write a lot of stupid shit.
Ezra has gone village.
The Bush tax cuts were a defeat for Democrats and a victory for Republicans.
I stopped reading him a when he went to WaPo and never read him much before.
It used to be, negotiating went like this:
House Republicans negotiated with centrist Democrats
Ditto in the Senate
Then the House Republicans negotiated with the Senate Republicans.
Then they negotiated with President Bush.
They knew what they were doing.
He was young, but that is no excuse for falsifying history. There are boooks and legislative records.
do you think he’s sold out?
There is not a single Bush tactic that I want to see emulated. Progressives do not respond to authoritarianism. We are cats, and must be herded as such.
And didn’t Bush manage tax cuts like three years in a row???
Even after the surplus turned to deficit???
And didn’t Bush get a free pass to invade a country that posed no threat whatsoever simply because only the hard, hard neocon right wanted that war??
Yeah, right, that whole Iraq war thing was centrist compromise.
close your ears
I DONT GIVE A FLYIN FUK WHAT EZRA KLOWN THINKS………..rant off
Centrism is being used to describe a move to the right, so I’m not sure that tax cuts wouldn’t be centristic if we take Klein’s categorization of throwing out health care as just that sort of move.
ps about anything
Do ya hear that gentle whistlin’ in the wind? It’s the scent of wealth that has smitten young Klein. 25yo with more pocket personality than he’s ever known.
By the by, how do I contact you on Sunday’s to embed stuff. I’ve still got your email.
Back to the cesspool. I’ll check later.
Namaste
Translation: I think Ezra Klein is a witless asshole but he has an image.
Klein is an example of how our media culture confers authority on certain individuals for any reason or no reason at all. If Klein had a record of being right on the issues, being 25 would be no problem. But as far as I can see, he has been wrong on healthcare, and laughably wrong on the Bush tax cuts. And this then does raise the question of his age, as in why should I take seriously ever someone with so little experience?
asshat,raises index finger to the air and performs magical thinking…….boy genius
I like that analogy. And conservatives are dogs– they always do what they’re told and they’ll eat anything.
“Here Fido! I have a big bowl of tax cuts, smothered in rich bigotry sauce! It smells like shit, but you’ll eat anything!”
emulated. gah
This is sad, but I called it months ago. Klein works for the Washington Post.
A very good thing for the Post, but a doubtful step for Klein> we’ll see how he does. I’m not at all optimistic.
Sorry, my spelling is bad sometimes.
Which Bush and (especially) the Congressional Republicans were totally fine with, because it meant that from around 2008 through 2010 they could (and can) say we should make the tax cuts permanent and if you objected to that they could scream at the top of their lungs that you were “IN FAVOR OF THE BIGGEST TAX INCREASE IN AMERICAN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!” and if you pointed out that that was complete nonsense because all you wanted was for the cuts to expire just like the law says they would ignore you and scream it even louder.
(Ahem) SOME PEOPLE saw this at the time. Not that I’m necessarily saying it was me, or that the person who may or may not have been me was the only one or even the first one to recognize it. I’m just sayin’.
Klein is actually the best of the young bloggers who’ve jumped into the big media. Far better than Cox, Goldberg, Douthat, and McArdle. (Can anyone name anyone young in the big time better than these?)
The media has turned and it will stay turned. There will be increasingly less pretense of good journalism and even-handedness.
A-yep. Then again, the TradMed would never have nabbed him if he hadn’t been willing to be a Villager.
For instance: There’s a reason that of all the people to write for Salon, Jake Tapper was the one who got picked up by ABC whilst Murray Waas, Joe Conason and Mollie Dickenson — all people whose little toes are better journalists than Tapper could ever be — were not.
There was nothing about Bush’s tax cuts or the high-pressure (and possibly illegal) tactics he used to pass Medicare Part D that was “centrist”. Both were radical, radically expensive and irresponsible, given the other extraordinarily expensive policies – eg, two wars – that Bush rammed through.
Klein said something similar in a post about Max Baucus’ move to the “center” in the health care debate after it was clear that after four decades Ted Kennedy would no longer be an active player in fighting for reform. That was equally false framing.
How often will we have to point out that there was nothing about Bush then, and nothing about Baucus and the Blue Dogs now, that is in the “center” of the political infield. They’re all having a chat with the first base coach. The thing that Bush, Baucus and the Blue Dogs have in common is that they are working from the center of their own ambitions, which have nothing in common with policies that would promote the health or general welfare of most Americans.
you got it
most young bloggers i know are much more interested in facts than Ezra………..funny dat
Does Ezra know the practice Denny employed called “the majority of the majority” before allowing House bills onto the floor? Denny who?
There is a difference between tactics and goals. Bush (well Rove) understood that he needed to support his base in order to get things done. Plenty of pundits, just after what passed for the results of the first election said he would have to be conciliatory and work from the center. The Bushies did the opposite. Ezra Klein’s rewriting of history not withstanding, Bush showed that being singularly interested in pushing your agenda does not necessarily put a President at a disadvantage. If Obama continues down the path of not playing the mandate card, that Bush said he had contrary to any evidence, we are in for the status quo established by the last eight year of Bush.
The problems to be addressed are bigger than fine-tuning Bush’s massive mistakes. So far Obama hasn’t changed much of Bush’s policies and is uninterested in dancing with those that brought him to the party. Maybe there is such a thing as being too different after all.
The more Obama looks weak to Republicans because of his hyper need to compromise with conservatives the harder they will push back.
I like that: centrists – a politician who makes policy from the center of their own ambitions.
If single payer was still on the table then Ezra could consider PO a centrist victory
If Ezra keeps this up, he’ll give David Brooks, Tom Friedman and the other Klein a run for their money.
Obama is adjusting the carburetor on a blown engine.
Since the Washington Post placed a giant seed pod next to Ezra’s bed at night he hasn’t been the same.
Klein need not apply for Jane’s job offer. He’s got major Beltway career plans. This attempt to define victory down falls into a pattern: Play like you want to beat the right but turn that into a victory for them. This will drive suckers on the left into their ever-lovin’ arms and take the wind out of reform.
He’s not alone. Many are out there positioning themselves as champions of reform while doing their best to undermine the will to achieve it for real. If they have have careerism in their heads — which I assume — they’re banking on a Republican resurgence they can take some credit for. If on top of this they have a vision of the world — which I doubt — it’s a DLC worldview.
I’ve seen enough of this by now to see how the game is played. It goes on at Salon.com. Blanche Lincoln says she’s not for a public option, but describes the option in terms no one would be for. She’s obviously positioning herself to be walked in off the window ledge from the left and vote for the option. But a blogger presented her as a deserter.
On another occasion a “What would Teddy do?” blog subtly said he would of course trade the option for a bag of magic Insurance Company No-No Beans.
You really have to be really smart to outwit these people, with an IQ of at least 90. That’s smart enough.
Kevin McCarthy or Dana Wynter?
Ach der lieber
Ezra agrees with Jane
My view, exactly. I don’t bother reading Klein anymore, he’s a suckup.