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		<title>By: Mile23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mile23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wikipedia: “The statutory authority for SCHIP is under title XXI of the Social Security Act. It was sponsored by Senator Ted Kennedy in a partnership with Senator Orrin Hatch[2] with support coming from First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton during the Clinton administration.[3][4][5]”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia: “The statutory authority for SCHIP is under title XXI of the Social Security Act. It was sponsored by Senator Ted Kennedy in a partnership with Senator Orrin Hatch[2] with support coming from First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton during the Clinton administration.[3][4][5]”</p>
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		<title>By: txprogressive</title>
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		<dc:creator>txprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m just flat sick of the democrats basically never displaying any spine.  I’ve had enough.  I think next time around I’ll just sit out the election.  After all, what difference does it really make - either way we will never see a more liberal agenda pushed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m just flat sick of the democrats basically never displaying any spine.  I’ve had enough.  I think next time around I’ll just sit out the election.  After all, what difference does it really make &#8211; either way we will never see a more liberal agenda pushed.</p>
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		<title>By: Patri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We are seeing now. We don’t have to wait.  My thought re Obama?&lt;br /&gt;
“Show me your company and i’ll tell you what you are.”  My momma said that many times as I was growing up.  Now let’s see how it applies to Obama:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama’s Best Friends Forever are Geithner, Summers, Bernanke,  Goldman Sachs, AIG (now AIU), Rahm Emanuel, Baucus, Ben Nelson, Conrad, Snowe, Wall Street, PhRMA, insurance industry execs, McCrystal, Gates, Netanyahu, et alia. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, who do you think Obama is listening to?  Who do you think Obama played golf with while on vacation?  Who does Obama think has the big pockets who can support him and his companions’ campaigns, ambitions, and interests? Obama has already proven who his BFFs are with the stimulus money and the bullpucky about the profits the US is now making.  He’s proven just how many of his campaign promises he intends to live up to: Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; Blackwater contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan; no investigations into the criminal activities of the Bush Administration; Clinton/Bush renditions; immigration reform, and, yes, Health Care Reform.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama is George W, Jr. He punked us.  Our crummy $10, $25, even $1,000 or $2,500 donations mean nothing when compared to what he got and will get from his BFFs.  Now, he intends to drop the public option.  After all, it’s what we little punks want, not what Wall Street wants.  So, who do you think Obama will want to please?  Before you answer, rephrase what was said earlier: Show me Obama’s company and then tell me what he’ll do.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moreover, Obama is giving the insane fringe their script for future African American presidential candidates.  To wit:  African Americans do not make good presidents.  Look at how weak and easily led by the nose Obama was.  Does anyone in America want another Obama?  God has proven us right.  We are the American people, we are superior and we should be the ones making the weighty decisions a U.S. President must make.  We should be the ones to fight for “America’s ideals” and defend America’s morals.  Palin and Newt in 2012 and beyond.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama has reneged on every promise he made in his campaign.(See David Swanson’s article, “Bush’s Third Term” in The Nation Magazine)  I will not vote for him in 2012; Liberals and progressives and many independents will turn away from him, as well; and that is as it should be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are seeing now. We don’t have to wait.  My thought re Obama?<br />
“Show me your company and i’ll tell you what you are.”  My momma said that many times as I was growing up.  Now let’s see how it applies to Obama:  </p>
<p>Obama’s Best Friends Forever are Geithner, Summers, Bernanke,  Goldman Sachs, AIG (now AIU), Rahm Emanuel, Baucus, Ben Nelson, Conrad, Snowe, Wall Street, PhRMA, insurance industry execs, McCrystal, Gates, Netanyahu, et alia. </p>
<p>Now, who do you think Obama is listening to?  Who do you think Obama played golf with while on vacation?  Who does Obama think has the big pockets who can support him and his companions’ campaigns, ambitions, and interests? Obama has already proven who his BFFs are with the stimulus money and the bullpucky about the profits the US is now making.  He’s proven just how many of his campaign promises he intends to live up to: Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; Blackwater contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan; no investigations into the criminal activities of the Bush Administration; Clinton/Bush renditions; immigration reform, and, yes, Health Care Reform.  </p>
<p>Obama is George W, Jr. He punked us.  Our crummy $10, $25, even $1,000 or $2,500 donations mean nothing when compared to what he got and will get from his BFFs.  Now, he intends to drop the public option.  After all, it’s what we little punks want, not what Wall Street wants.  So, who do you think Obama will want to please?  Before you answer, rephrase what was said earlier: Show me Obama’s company and then tell me what he’ll do.  </p>
<p>Moreover, Obama is giving the insane fringe their script for future African American presidential candidates.  To wit:  African Americans do not make good presidents.  Look at how weak and easily led by the nose Obama was.  Does anyone in America want another Obama?  God has proven us right.  We are the American people, we are superior and we should be the ones making the weighty decisions a U.S. President must make.  We should be the ones to fight for “America’s ideals” and defend America’s morals.  Palin and Newt in 2012 and beyond.</p>
<p>Obama has reneged on every promise he made in his campaign.(See David Swanson’s article, “Bush’s Third Term” in The Nation Magazine)  I will not vote for him in 2012; Liberals and progressives and many independents will turn away from him, as well; and that is as it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Clavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember clearly how hard Bush fought for bipartisan solutions to our nation’s problems. He was always bowing to pressure from the left, letting progressives write legislation. Why, Dennis Kucinich was in the Oval Office almost as often as Karl Rove!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s good that Obama’s continuing this honorable tradition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember clearly how hard Bush fought for bipartisan solutions to our nation’s problems. He was always bowing to pressure from the left, letting progressives write legislation. Why, Dennis Kucinich was in the Oval Office almost as often as Karl Rove!</p>
<p>It’s good that Obama’s continuing this honorable tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: billjanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>billjanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama health care ‘compromise’ proves health care reform is not about the public’s health, but about private sector profits. The ‘compromise’ comes from the rational fringe of the Republican party, a Maine Republican shill for big business.  From the New York Times: “Ms. Snowe’s proposal recalls a provision of the 2003 law that added a prescription drug benefit to Medicare.  At the time, experts doubted that insurers would sell stand-alone policies covering only prescription drugs. … But private insurers, seeing a lucrative business opportunity, rushed into the market, and the government never had to establish a plan of its own.  The Medicare drug benefit is thus delivered entirely by private insurers under contract with the federal government.” So, basically, if you can make health insurance a more lucrative business, then you might (might) get a Republican vote or two. Essentially, the health care reform ‘compromise’ will increase the percentage of GNP spent on health care, but have the desired effect of raising health insurance industry revenue — good for the economy, disastrous for workers. Thanks Obama! That’s change we can believe in!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama health care ‘compromise’ proves health care reform is not about the public’s health, but about private sector profits. The ‘compromise’ comes from the rational fringe of the Republican party, a Maine Republican shill for big business.  From the New York Times: “Ms. Snowe’s proposal recalls a provision of the 2003 law that added a prescription drug benefit to Medicare.  At the time, experts doubted that insurers would sell stand-alone policies covering only prescription drugs. … But private insurers, seeing a lucrative business opportunity, rushed into the market, and the government never had to establish a plan of its own.  The Medicare drug benefit is thus delivered entirely by private insurers under contract with the federal government.” So, basically, if you can make health insurance a more lucrative business, then you might (might) get a Republican vote or two. Essentially, the health care reform ‘compromise’ will increase the percentage of GNP spent on health care, but have the desired effect of raising health insurance industry revenue — good for the economy, disastrous for workers. Thanks Obama! That’s change we can believe in!</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
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		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Making the sausage in politics is never pretty, so I’ve held my nose on those issues and balanced it all against the many good things that he’s done so far.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But losing the public option is a bridge too far, and symbolically it would be a devastating loss.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I expected bad things from Darth &amp; Co. and they didn’t let me down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama was to be different, particularly wrt lobbyists and their influence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the public option goes down it means absolute money rules absolutely, and our votes really mean nothing at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you can’t pass a bill with a provision that 70% are in favor of, is the fiscally conservative thing to do, will help damn near everybody through the elimination of pre-existing conditions and more competition (where’s the cheapest gas in &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; neighborhood? in mine it’s always at the intersection with 3 stations on it) then what can you ever pass in the public’s interest?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Answer — nothing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the sausage in politics is never pretty, so I’ve held my nose on those issues and balanced it all against the many good things that he’s done so far.</p>
<p>But losing the public option is a bridge too far, and symbolically it would be a devastating loss.</p>
<p>I expected bad things from Darth &amp; Co. and they didn’t let me down.</p>
<p>Obama was to be different, particularly wrt lobbyists and their influence.</p>
<p>If the public option goes down it means absolute money rules absolutely, and our votes really mean nothing at all.</p>
<p>If you can’t pass a bill with a provision that 70% are in favor of, is the fiscally conservative thing to do, will help damn near everybody through the elimination of pre-existing conditions and more competition (where’s the cheapest gas in <em>your</em> neighborhood? in mine it’s always at the intersection with 3 stations on it) then what can you ever pass in the public’s interest?</p>
<p>Answer — nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: FlyingTiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlyingTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Recently I read that groppers team up with ells: the gropper will chase a fish into a crevis, then the gropper goes and gets the ell, the gropper then points its head toward the area, the ell goes into the crevis. Sometimes the ell gets the fish and sometimes the gropper gets the fish when it comes out.&lt;br /&gt;
Regardless of how educated one may be it seems to me that without a high level of emotional intelligence then other types of intelligences are null and void.&lt;br /&gt;
I used to think humans were the smartest of all animals but no longer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I read that groppers team up with ells: the gropper will chase a fish into a crevis, then the gropper goes and gets the ell, the gropper then points its head toward the area, the ell goes into the crevis. Sometimes the ell gets the fish and sometimes the gropper gets the fish when it comes out.<br />
Regardless of how educated one may be it seems to me that without a high level of emotional intelligence then other types of intelligences are null and void.<br />
I used to think humans were the smartest of all animals but no longer.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;From the euphoria of Obama’s win last year, to not voting for him in 2012 if he does not insist on the public option in the health care bill.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I personally flipped on obama when I found out he flipped on fisa, more when I found out he flipped on giving banksters my money, most when I found out he supported bush’s depraved policies and decision court orders, and now more on this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he would won the nomination as a republican had he run on their ticket&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>From the euphoria of Obama’s win last year, to not voting for him in 2012 if he does not insist on the public option in the health care bill.</p>
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<p>I personally flipped on obama when I found out he flipped on fisa, more when I found out he flipped on giving banksters my money, most when I found out he supported bush’s depraved policies and decision court orders, and now more on this</p>
<p>he would won the nomination as a republican had he run on their ticket</p>
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		<title>By: i4u2bi</title>
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		<dc:creator>i4u2bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes either way it goes it will be ugly…best course is to open a shovel store. There’s gonna be a lot of political graves to be dug.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes either way it goes it will be ugly…best course is to open a shovel store. There’s gonna be a lot of political graves to be dug.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;don’t think we can assume they won’t recapture the House and Senate if Obama continues on his current course.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree and we’re in for a hell of a ride either way.  If folks thought 2008 was ugly, they ain’t seen nothin’ yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>don’t think we can assume they won’t recapture the House and Senate if Obama continues on his current course.</p>
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<p>I agree and we’re in for a hell of a ride either way.  If folks thought 2008 was ugly, they ain’t seen nothin’ yet.</p>
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