Comments on: This is Who You Are Negotiating With

By: airmaster2

airmaster2 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:13:10 +0000

No one but Fox would re-play that. I saw the video of him saying that exactly, Photo-shopped?

By: lcdrrek

lcdrrek — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:44:44 +0000

If you want to see what wingnuttia is like, take a look at the >1000 comments on this article in the Dallas Morning News. I am pained to say that unfortunately, I live in the Dallas area.

http://www.dallasnews.com/shar.....nts_anchor

By: AngelsAwake

AngelsAwake — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:05:58 +0000

The thing is, the wingnuts are actually crazy people. I can’t stress this enough. They are not rational in the slightest. And we progressives, God bless us, are naive little critters sometimes, and wonder ” Oh, how can we save the poor little folk from themselves? sigh flutter eyelashes sigh flutter sigh”…

We can’t do that with these people. We just have to accept that they are crazy and work behind a different principle than us, that there is no way to raise the discourse, to discuss calmly and reasonably with them issues based on factual reality. There is no way to do this.

The best we can do is take back control of the House and Senate from them, and then ridicule them. They are there to be ridiculed. As progressives, we don’t kill people except in very extreme circumstances, but we can ridicule them. Mock them. Take them to task for their lies. Pound away at them verbally. Conservatives are a dead weight, a millstone, around the neck of America. We cannot reason with it, we can simply show it for what it is: madness and insanity in a nice suit.

By: AngelsAwake

AngelsAwake — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:02:22 +0000

The problem with Obama is that he wants to make sure the companies get their cut, so he’s hiding behind bipartisanship.

The second problem is that the people he’s supposedly bi-partisan with are all crazy.

In a way, we should be thankful. We’re it not for the fact that the wingnuts are so virulently anti-Obama because, holy shit, he’s a black man, Obama might actually be able to hide behind them and get corporate deals done. Since it’s so patently obvious that he can’t deal with them, it’s forced a lot of the corporations’ hands out into the open, and made it obvious that the health-care thing is all about money.

By: wlwesq09

wlwesq09 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:02:13 +0000

The bigger question here is, what the heck can we do to possibly elevate the level of actual discourse and debate in the U.S.? We’re probably not helping by calling the other side right-wing wingnuts (even though I use that description all the time), but the people on the fringe are being egged on by Glenn Beck et al.

I don’t mean to sound defeatist, but aren’t we doomed? What can we do to calm things down and have a good, honest discussion about the issues confronting us?

Maybe it’s time to look for work in Canada…

By: Raven

Raven — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:38:29 +0000

Yep. The big hubub is that he won’t hold a meeting in town and the one he is having nearby is at 10am on a weekday so all the old scared people can show up.

By: OldFatGuy

OldFatGuy — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:33:36 +0000

Is he your rep?

By: Raven

Raven — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:29:24 +0000

He is the rep for a district that includes Athens, they gerrymandered it to negate the impact of a university community.

By: OldFatGuy

OldFatGuy — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:26:53 +0000

Yeah, true. Just worrying again over my memory.

And BTW, that link had more enlightened posts than I would’ve thought. Seemed there’s some reason down there in GA. Not sure how much though when they elect a guy like that Broun. *shudder*

By: Raven

Raven — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:21:05 +0000

What does it matter, these fuckers don’t care.