No one can ever accuse the Grand Old Party and its media affiliates of loving too much. The disintegrating debate on health care reform continues to highlight the party’s soullessness. Last week, it was (Dr.) Tom Coburn dismissing a weeping constituent who couldn’t afford to care for her brain-injured husband. This week, it got "better":
Yesterday, an uninsured waitress who has to rely on the emergency room for her children’s medical care, asked boxing historian and Republican harpy, Lynn Jenkins (who already enjoys taxpayer-funded health coverage), why she shouldn’t have an affordable government option, as well. Sure, it seemed like a reasonable question, but when has that ever stopped a Republican from being an obnoxious dick? Buoyed by the hisses, catcalls and boos from the audience, Jenkins instead sneered that the woman should just suck it up and "buy" health insurance with some undefined tax credit, instead of expecting other people to "buy" it for her.
And in a jaw-dropping exchange, Maria Bartiromo, the CNBC Tube Boob who can certainly afford gold-plated health coverage in the United States, confronted New York Rep. Anthony Weiner about that rotten socialist insurance program also known as "Medicare."
REP. WEINER: No. No. The United States of America, 40 percent of all tax dollars go through a public plan. Ask your parent or grandparent, ask your neighbor whether they’re satisfied with Medicare. Now, there’s a funding problem, but the quality of care is terrific. You get complete choice and go anywhere you want. Don’t look at –
MS. BARTIROMO: How come you don’t use it? You don’t have it. How come you don’t have it?
REP. WEINER: Because I’m not 65. I would love it.
Way to use that N.Y.U. degree, Maria. I can’t wait to hear what you have to say about Social Security.
It was a close call, but the people who heckled the wheelchair-bound woman in New Jersey last week lost out the Grand Prize to M.C. Steele, who mistook his appearance yesterday at Howard University for an audition to play Cruella DeVille:
When the RNC chair took a written question on health care, he blasted the public option, saying that "every time the government gets involved in something it doesn’t work."
Then came Amanda Duzak, and Steele’s evening just got a whole lot worse.
Duzak, a 23 year old Towson University grad, stood up, against the rules and out of turn.
"My mother died of cancer 6 months ago because she could only afford three of her six prescription chemotherapy medications," she projected. "There are 50 million people in this country who could end up like my mom, suffering or dying because they do not have adequate health care. Everyone in this room and everyone in this country should have access to good health care."
The room woke up and other than those glaring from the front, the applause was wall to wall. But it’s Steele’s response that makes this moment both newsworthy and a terrible comment on his character. After saying that he believed in a mature, honest discussion and not in shouting, Steele said, "People are coming to these town meetings and they’re like [he then shakes]." He then looked and gestured right at Ms. Duzak and said, "It makes for great TV. You’ll probably make it tonight, enjoy it." He then turned his back to her, as the crowd clapped.
That’s right – the Man o’ Steele turned his back on a woman whose mother had died because she couldn’t afford health insurance. That is the Republican ethos in a nutshell. Bootstrap your way into better coverage or die trying. Ayn Rand would be so very, very proud.
(It was an especially nice touch that a cadre of Young White Republicans for hire filed in to the "Historically Black Universities" student dialogue at the last minute and occupied the first two "reserved" rows of seats in order to provide Steele a wall between himself and the "rabble" of black students. Way to represent, Mr. "I Once Drove Through the Bronx, So I’ve Got Street Cred With the Homies" Steele. You do Rosa Parks proud.)
I already know the answer to this question, but I have to ask it anyway: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!
Seriously.
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Kwatz!
What the hell is that picture?
Love the photo, wt.
AquaKitteh!
EDP!
And then there was Michael Steele blowing off a legitimate question at a townhall (apparently, from KO), and going off about how you shouldn’t be disruptive…Asshat.
Oooops. Didn’t read past “way to use that NYU degree…”
He’s still a prize asshat!
FunnyWheelieDiva
While one can pull oneself up by the bootstraps, a more common use is to BEAT THE HELL OUT OF SOMEBODY ELSE with them.
“The Bootstrap Party: “Party of No” and btw I’ll beat the crap out of you. Unless it’s more convenient to shoot you, as is my Dog given 2nd Amendment Right.”
Ayn Rand. In all her fezzed glory.
Yeah, I sometimes wonder about black republicans like Michael Steele, Ward Connerly, Ron Christie and Clarence Thomas. Don’t you guys realize they hate you? They fucking hate you! WTF is wrong with you?
Stupid AND evil. A winning combination every time!
GOP: Got Ours, Piss-off
Makes you wonder why so many Republicans go the fundie route. It’s not like they exhibit any soul to save.
As I said to some Randian: One can only pull themselves up by their bootstraps if they have boots to begin with.
Right now, we’re kinda short on boots around these parts…
Ayn Rand, high priestess of greed
Thanks. I thought it was John Galt.
Nice party. I am surprised he didn’t point to an imaginary scoreboard a la Dion Sanders, and yell “Psych!”
Leave Ayn Rand alone.
-Megan McCardle
“Maybe they won’t hate me if I act like them.”
Ayn Rand would fuck Megan McArdle with a rusty chainsaw for a quarter.
That’s an ugly, violent, misogynistic comment.
OT, but good material for spleen-venting: Pat Buchanan Sez: Hitler Didn’t Start WWII.
Contains a link to the racist pig-dog Nazi sympathizer’s blog; I won’t duplicate it here.
Demonstrating the true spirit of capitalism.
She looks like she’s on something. Or has something, hopefully not contagious.
Isn’t “fuck” gender neutral?
tube boob?
ummm. uh. never mind.
It’s not just the Rs. The Blue Dogs are just as bad, and there are very few other Ds who have anything resembling a spine.
For all of us that have attempted to give the other side the benefit of doubt no matter how much we disagreed with them, that time is over. The other side is not only stupid and lies about all kinds of stuff, it is also without soul. These people are callous, selfish and hateful. They simply have no redeeming qualities at all.
Ayn Rand: Bad philosopher, probably a good dominatrix, can dance a little.
BTW, you want more asshattery? David Frum steps up to the plate.
I think it’s the authoritarian, judging/punishing Others thing. Nothing to do with the Sermon on The Mount or “as you have done for the least of these…”
FWDiva
I would say that PatB needs to be fired for that comment, but the sad fact is, he’s much tamer than so many others on air… he’s positively a progressive compared with Beck, OReally, Hannity or even Lou.
I don’t see him taking up a collection.
It is not misogynistic in the least and is no more ugly than the people it describes. Did you actually read McArdle’s homicidal fantasies in her column on the idiots bringing guns to the townhalls?
Bartiromo is just another clown in the media’s pageant of bread and circuses. Stupidity like hers is the norm in the media, not the exception.
The Rs and Ds play good cop/bad cop with the voters. Which is good or bad is a matter of perspective but the important thing to remember is that they share the same agenda.
I doubt she was a good dominatrix. Im sure she enjoyed inflicting pain. just looking at her naked body must’ve been painful but isnt the whole dom/sub thing about the sub? isnt it like the extreme attention the sub is getting from the dom thats the appeal in those realtionships? since the entire multiverse was all about ayn rand(thats why they call it “objectivism”) it dosent seem like it would have worked
I still laugh when I think of her screeching at Matt Taibbi about the cost of cancer drugs in England.
Obama, Axelrod, Reid, Pelosi, should be putting Wiener as the health care poster boy – sharp, well spoken, passionate.
That he isn’t out front is illustrative of their goals.
EDIT: probably…
An interesting example of how Frum takes a somewhat factually correct statement, which I quoted, to blame the victim. According to Frum, the only reason you’re having medical problems is because you don’t wear your seatbelt, you smoke, you’re fat, or you’re a pregnant woman who doesn’t take care of herself*. I’d guess that sinners of such sorts are about as prevalent in Western Europe & Canada, yet medical care costs less and outcomes are better.
*This is particularly offensive, since infant mortality is high among the poor, who not only cannot afford to take care of themselves, they are also exploited by ghouls who profit on unhealthy lifestyles.
Of the four you mention the only one who appears remotely interested in a public option at this point is Pelosi and her history suggests she will cave eventually.
I was just looking at the NYT’s online frontpage. There’s a story entitled “Conservatives see need for serious health debate.” Don’t you just hate it when they let their reporters write on acid?
We can ask Ayn-groupie Alan Greenspan to find out how she was:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A…..bjectivism
Maybe even current wife Ayndrea Mitchell took part in the festivities?
she dosent need to cave. the “PO” such as it exists in the house bill, will get a vote in the house then sent to the senate to be removed, then sent back to the house to be voted on, or not. im not betting on or not.
Not acid, payola.
For a brief moment in history, I applauded Maria. She got voice lessons to reduce her horrific nasal voice. (It’s not great now, but compared to how she started, it’s a million times better.) She stopped painting all around her eyes black, like the Egyptians during Roman times.* She clearly recognized her shortcomings, and took steps to correct them. That is an admiral quality in anyone’s book.
Unfortunately, she never made any attempt that is externally recognizable to improve her brain, which seems to be missing in action. Palin interview was a dead giveaway, if you didn’t get it sooner.
*I once asked a CNBC makeup person to give me “Maria Bartaromo eyes” as she was doing my makeup in advance of on of my appearances. The makeup artist rolled her eyes, and I grinned.
Seriously, there has to be a real discussion in this country of how big a handout to give to the insurance industry!
She asks why she shouldn’t have an affordable government option.
The Repug sugests she buy health insurance instead of expecting other people to “buy” it for her.
Food is more important to our lives than health insurance. Why shouldn’t we all have an affordable government option to give us steak and potatoes every night.
And if Repubs snear and sugest we should buy our own food instead of expecting other people to “buy” it for us, we can BBQ them for being unkind.
Waste of good (tiny) paper.
I think if Obama told the truth, he say that he won’t sign any bill that DOES include a public option. Moot point though, I’m pretty confident any bill that eventually lands on his desk won’t contain one.
There was a recent study published in JAMA which compared health outcomes in Britain and the US and controlled for “risk behaviors” and social class. There was little difference between the countries in terms of risk behaviors (the Brits even came off worse on one measure), but the health outcomes were better for Brits across all social classes. Indeed, health outcomes for affluent Americans were about equal to that of lower class Brits.
The brown acid at that.
Yes, asking her to choose between bankruptcy and starvation is the answer, as it is for millions.
I sorta liked it.
There is also this blog at the NYT which quotes Jane.
So, is she another legacy or wingnut-welfare hire? Or were candidates just really scarce when the needed someone to…do whatever it is she does? I’m sure there are many telegenic women with brains in their heads and without Lina LaMont voices.
Sheesh.
FWDiva
Yes, I saw that, and thank you for reminding me of something I used to know. It’s very important that the health outcomes for rich U.S.ians were equal to those of lower income Brits. Good factoid to use next time a troll shows up.
Meredith Whitney comes to mind.
Hey, the Today show just hired Jenna Bush as an “education” reporter. I gues Paris Hilton was busy.
From the same write up:
“He has come under criticism from Harry Binswanger,[19] who believes his actions while at work for the Federal Reserve and his publicly expressed opinions on other issues show abandonment of Objectivist and free market principles”
yes, there is an objectivist guru named “Harry Binswanger” i provided the whole quotation so no one thought i made it up. AND “the undertaker” came under attack from harry binswanger at the rand dungeon.
Hey! Don’t you be talking about Paris that way. She is never busy.
Milions?
Jenna wrote a childrens book so at least her dad will have something to read if he ever finishes “My Pet Goat.”
linky?
FWDiva
No, millions.
I have no idea how Maria Bartaromo got her job. Since, when she started, she was so classless, I had assumed that she was a genuine Italian-American working her way up the American Dream. But that was strictly my assumption, with no evidence at all. I never met her, so have no personal interaction to report. I usually appeared before or after economic data were reported, most often around 8:30aET. Maria always came on later in the day.
Her wiki supports my hypothesis. Her parents ran an Italian restaurant. Think she didn’t have connections.
What I don’t get is why there isn’t at least one Dem who can play the Jesus card. If I can stop my neo-con twin in his tracks by saying, “Jesus would be ashamed of your thinking” (and neither of us is religious anymore), then I don’t see why we cannot call the fundies out on their phony Xtianism. Turn it back on them. Jesus would not be about folks dying in the streets…..or living on the streets, for that matter. Why do we let the Rightists get away with their inhumanity?
Well, you know between hair appointments and nail appointments and her personal trainer and shopping. A girl can only do so much in a day after all.
Jenna
wroteput her name on a ghost written childrens bookOK…then I apologize for being catty. Doesn’t change the fact that she needs to work on getting her facts right.
FWDiva
I recently remembered that there is supposed to be a W library. Random thought, a propos of nothing. Next thought was: Gee, what’s he doing to get it started? Other than some desultory fundraising, I’d guess, not much. SMU faculty might not have anything to worry about. Could be an empty building, constructed a decade or more from now. And the Freedom Institute, or whatever it’s called, I’m not holding my breath.
That’s okay, her pop loves Casper. On a related note, he thinks Richie Rich is about him.
Amen to that, Dearie.
I don’t really know cause I just recently polished my toe nails for the first time evah. They look pretty nice. Ron likes it.
Seems like a rental storage unit should more than suffice.
No need to apologize. Her brains are not in evidence, as I noted in a prior comment.
When I was growing up Catholic I would always hear stories of missionaries like the Maryknolls going off to exotic places. Once or twice a year it seemed that one would show up at the church for fundraising appeal. Stories like that influenced me when I decided to go to the Peace Corps. In Kenya in 1979 there were 36 of us for agriculture and the first PC women in development program. Better than half had been raised Catholic though not all still practiced. There was a strong social justice sense in that group. So when I hear or see crap like Mikie Steele is spewing, I wonder if he never learned the true meaning of Christianity in whatever version of it he grew up on. Do Republican Bibles take out the part of Jesus kicking moneylenders out of the Temple? Do they not have the Sermon on the Mount in their versions?
For all they claim that America is a Christian nation their version has no love or justice.
Nothing gets the winger’s knickers in a tighter knot than when lefties start pulling religion on them. The shrieks can be heard for light years.
Yes. Millions.
Harvard University did a study in 2005 and found that 2,000,000 people every year file for bankruptcy due to health care costs. Of those, 75% had health insurance at the time the illness that led to their bankruptcy was first identified and treated.
Mind you, this was 4 years ago and based on data from 2001. But I highly doubt it’s gone down since then.
Oh no! You misunderestimate W’s fundraising capabilities. Could look like the Parthanon. Or not. W probably doesn’t know what the Parthanon is.
Well good on ya! The big question is do you like it (or like Ron liking it enough to be OK with it)?
A shoebox would do.
Well, If the truth be told I find it rather novel.
There is some serious money in this quote:
This is epic.
As much good as missionaries sometimes do, I’m agin ‘em owing to their prostelitysing, which creates tension and social dislocation.
Okay…….let ‘em shriek. It would beat the nonsense they are spewing now. It just amazes me that the lefties can’t just call a “WWJD” now and then to bring ‘em up short. If it works on my rightwingnut brother then it certainly should work on the Palin/Steele/Bachmann/Beck crowd. I’d love to hear them say, “No, no — of course Jesus would tell them to get a fucking job and buy their own insurance.” Yeah.
Parthenon, some kind of 12-step program for golf-aholics?
“as you do unto the least among you, you do unto me.” Pretty cut and dried injunction for any actual Christian. Problem is that just call themselves Christians. They are really Paulists and he was one mean spirited misogynist SOB.
Problem is 2.5% of a person’s income is way less than what they pay for health care.
No link. She is a bank analyst who shows up on television from time to time. I liked her because she told people to look at the math and initially was very critical of the financial community. I think she has been more bullish recently, and I think that’s a mistake. But she has done good work in the past.
Probably will look like a Houston strip mall or a Super 8 motel.
That’s part of getting the public motivated. But as I typed on an earlier thread, it will take a supermajority who face insurmountable medical bills before there will be any public response to the dire situation, which has been developing for decades. And even then, I’m not sure that will overpower the vested interests.
Novel is good.
Sorry for the typo.
Thanks for giving newtonusr no support on the fantastical assurtion that:
Yes, asking [a woman] to choose between bankruptcy and starvation is the answer, as it is for millions.
This is clearly a rediculaous statement.
Gotta ’splain that to me, as I’m a golf moron. (Or moran, depending on your political party.)
heh. Was gonna type that exact same thing!
So alan, buddy. Argument using false analogies doesn’t really work. For instance, using your “logic,” we can say…
If I’m being held hostage, having a SWAT team come to save me is much more important than food, yet those police folks are paid with tax dollars and will risk their lives to save me regardless if I can pay or not.
If my house is on fire and I’m trapped inside, firefighters are much more important to me than food, yet those firefighters will risk their lives to save me for the small amount of tax payer dollars they are paid, and they won’t ask me in advance how my income is.
Oh, and there are government programs to buy food anyway, as a safety net for those who are born into really unfortunate circumstances or are having a tough time for whatever reasons.
But these silly little analogies don’t matter anyway, since single-payer is by far the most cost-effective, and life-saving healthcare system there is, as any rational analysis of worldwide data will show over the last few decades.
Would you care to debate a public option or single-payer system on facts, or just come up with some more false analogies?
Maybe just a drive-though – it shouldn’t take long to read the 2 or 3 books there.
actually… fundraising’s been going quite well for it. Evidently, among Texas’ secessionist elite, shrub retains high standing. Or at least people figure they owe him. Or for whatever reason, they’re afraid of him. I saw the site’s landscape plan – a grand promenade leading pointlessly from the tacky neoclassical palace to a massive parking lot. Immediately to the east is a huge freeway. His western neighbor is SMU’s frat row, quite appropriately.
Fuck that, Mary. alan1tx is right. All she needs to do, like everyone else with no coverage, or insufficient coverage, is listen to Dr. Coburn – get their neighbors involved.
I’m sure there’s an oncologist or an ENT or a thoracic surgeon just up the block who would be happy to trot over and…
Ya, leave the prostelitysing out and provide the services is better. I remember a Danish priest up near Lake Victoria who was doing alot with appropriate technology but he would only help you if you were a member of his congregation. That was fucked.
WTF? Just cause I didn’t say anything about newtonusr’s comment does not mean I agree with you.
I had to file for bankrupcty due to medical bills and then got sick again. And food was scarce, too. And, yes, millions of people have had to make that choice. Or haven’t you heard the stats on hunger in this nation?
DING DING DING!
We have a winner!
FWDiva
Yeppers – down a thread or so I called it a “regressive tax” and I’m sticking with it.
Should get more than progressives riled up.
I don’t remember the exact numbers, but that may be right. But not one of those US citizens was starving, which was the other side of the silly coin presented.
Not true.
So sounds like my Parthenon hypothesis might be accurate?
A big part of the problem is that there is no actual Democratic healthcare reform plan. There are several competing “Democratic” plans out there, which differ significantly from one another. It is awfully hard to sell something that does not exist yet. I really blame Obama for this with his laissez-faire approach to this issue. He is the leader of the party and this is his signature issue. He damned well needs to do some leading and to define the issue. Unfortunately, it is probably already too late for that.
It’s the perfect vehicle for pointing at the pocketbook. The essence of the kitchen-table part of the discussion.
I don’t know about ‘mean-spirited’, but I’d say authoritarian male Middle Eastern Roman citizen, which explains a lot, including the misogyny.
Bit of a stretch referring to “par,” completing a hole using the prescribed number of strokes.
Throw-away joke, best put it out of it’s misery.
I’m interested.
Dn’t dismiss me on this.
A lot of fundie missions do that. Sure builds the congregation when you are the only hospital/infirmary or aid agency in the district.
Leadership? Surely you jest. Near as I can tell, community org is all about getting people to talk to each other (and O is falling short even on that criterion) and not about results. Words, words, words, I’m so sick of words. I get words all day through, first from him, now from you. Is that all you blighters can do?
If not, they can just have a bake sale to pay for it anyway, right?
That should about cover the cancer treatments. This is the stuff that made American great, since people don’t help each other anywhere else in the world. No siree.
Sorry I asked. *g*
I didn’t. That’s why I asked you the question. You have anything else to add?
Well, I’m doing my lonely little chore out here….calling out the phony Christians, one at a time. It’s amazing, though, to see them shrink back in shame. We liberals let the Rightists grab the cross and bash us with it. No more.
Safe bet if Dubya has heard of the Parthenon he thinks it’s in Georgia.
It has been a while since I read the Paulist Gospels, but that is certainly the feeling I came away with. He did not seem filled with compassion and the milk of human kindness.
only if the ancient Athenians would fashion their oeuvre out of plastic and place it between drunken fundies, a freeway and a sea of parking lots.
Actually, there is one in Nashville. Don’t know if they play music there or not.
Or this – health care via barter!
We have these wild geese that inhabit the neighborhood this time of year. Maybe if I show up at the primary care place with a couple tucked under my arm, I can get my leg sewed back on.
What would you suggest?
First pope right?
Penn and Teller bashed the Vatican on their show last week.
My adult child tonight has a Maculopapular allergic reaction to Amoxicillin. She took it for the tonsillitis last week that crippled her at work and sent her seeking health care for free, or at all, before her insurance kicked in on Sept.1. She did find a clinic after finding that the free clinics in Brooklyn and Manhattan are not taking any, any new patients. I don’t think that seat belts and smoking had anything to do with her condition…
Doubt it. Sounds like your goose would be cooked.
Well, there’s always the Greek frats.
Not sure. Peter was the designated successor (the rock upon which I build my church), but I think Paul emerged later as the leader of the Eastern church.
Oh my Chris – best to your kid!
Or a car wash!
The uninsured young woman that was shot in the leg at that gym in PA (you remember, crazy with gun just randomly shot up a bunch of people)…her community raised a whole $500.00 with a car wash to help her with the medical bills!
Oh, and she’s 22 years old…too old for the parent’s plan, too soon out of college to have an employer or employer-based plan. And now she’s got one HELL of a pre-existing condition.
FWDiva
Actually the father of someone I went to school with was a doctor in Western Kentucky and would get paid on occasion with anything from chickens to moonshine.
Blessings and hope.
To start, a prez who isn’t a corp tool. But that is clearly out of the range of possibility.
Damn, that sucks! Glad she found someplace to get treated.
Well, thank you for taking that on, Dearie.
I don’t think I could do it without being sneeringly angry at their ignorance and self-centeredness.
FWDiva
A HAH! DeGette has a townhall right around the corner from me tomorrow morning and she’s the Chief Deputy Whip.
I’m showing up with the camera, and I’m going to ask if she supports a ‘regressive tax” i.e. mandates without public option. I’ll make sure to say “No PO, No Mandate. And No PO, no deal.”
Can’t be misconstrued as a teabagger, eh?
Watched something on PBS recently about the tedious and expensive Parthenon restoration project. The goal isn’t to restore it to it’s original appearance but a more accurate and sustainable level of ruin, as previous efforts left stone components where they did not belong. Pretty interesting (more than I’ve probably made it sound, anyway).
I was speaking of what we do now. We had no choices in the last election who were not corporate tools. From what William Domhoff says, we are unlikely ever to.
Thanks, newt,
she is in a world of hurt right now, but meds hope to fix it in two days. We hope to meet this weekend. Mothers are always pissed.
owwwwww.
Thanks so much Dearie!
I got hurt in Mississippi when I was 4 or 5, and I think my grandfather traded getting my hand stitched for an oil change at his gas station.
Sorry to hear that. Sucks when treatments cause more trouble than they cure. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Yep. Corp tools rule. All the signs point to entrenchment of such a system.
Nope.
Paul/Saul of Tarsus never even knew Jesus of Nazareth.
It was the apostle Peter that Jesus called “my rock”. IIRC the Pope sits on St Peter’s throne.
FWDiva
DrDick,
Can you believe that the free clinics in Manhattan and Brooklyn, are not taking new patients. That is just awful.
Hahah!
That kind of thing used to be pretty common in rural areas, but is long ago a thing of the past. It is all cash on the barrel head everywhere these days.
Ditto!
FWDiva
Just saw that Chris. That’s scary, no new patients. I hope she’s better.
Oh, I believe it. they are undoubtedly swamped as is. I think they made a choice to restrict the patients they see so that they can serve the ones they have adequately on the limited resources at their disposal. It is not really that uncommon anymore. But, of course, we have the bestest medical system in the world.
ratfood,
A few years ago she had an ER visit in the city/state she attended while in graduate school. She was then still under our coverage. NOT included was the ER visit, because “it was out of coverage.” Ohio coverage, Delaware school. What a stupid non-supplier.
Time for me to toddle off. Full day of corrupting young minds tomorrow. Take care all.
well… it’s kind of difficult to be a head of state who is not a corporate tool when the corps own the state. I think Americans are finally starting to realize what Its like to live with pervasive corruption. This corruption will continue to spread downward into our daily lives. Within a decade or so we’ll be passing 20 dollar bills alongside our drivers license applications. And bribing paper pushers to move our healthcare claims forms to the top of the pile.
And Paul/Saul started the drive to get women out of the church leadership.
Peter is only called “Peter” because of Jesus’ nickname for him, which the Greek renders as “Petra” or “Rock.”
It’s a pun for “Patra” which is “Father” in latin.
Control the language& history, control the game.
I recently had an episode of “broken heart syndrome” — though I didn’t know it upfront. The hospital kept asking for my $100 co-pay while I was in the ER. I finally said, “I think I’ll wait to see if I survive.” And —just for information: the whole event cost $50,000.00 for angiogram and 24 hour sleep over in a room where my roommate was being prepped for a colonoscopy and left, shall we say, fecal matter on the toilet and floor. My insurance company will pay about 10% . If I had no insurance, I would likely have lost my house. WWJD?
Props to you for seeing through Obama from the start. I was never more than cautiously optimistic, thinking is yet another lesser of evils election, just with a clearer choice than in some instances. Condolences to all who got seriously burned. Corp tools rule.
Hey Margot,
What a scary week. When she saw a new doctor today, she said that Patty needed to go to the ER. But for the fact that her breathing was not yet compromised, get meds, go home and don’t work for two days.
Yep.
I hope she stopped the amoxicillin immediately. Azithromycin or clarithromycin could be substituted.
We have a great health care system, for the terminally healthy.
Hugs Dearie, I’m so glad to see you. Wondered where you’ve been.
That kind of talk Sen. Tom Rugburn said at that town hall is always comical to me. They like to start on this righteous rant about how we Americans are such great folk that’ll lend a hand to those in need, and how we need to return to those good ‘ol days when people here did that more.
Well, I guess they mean as long as it doesn’t mean I have to pay 2% more in taxes that is, otherwise I’m there for you, neighbor! Given most of the income level of most of these Repubs, that might mean about another $200 or so at the end of the year to make sure all those neglected kids and babies all around them would surely get some healthcare.
And it’s also implying that Americans care for their fellow countrypeople more than other countries, which is especially comical when most of the industrialized countries of the world have no problem figuring out how to pay for actual single-payer healthcare for all their citizens. But not these “hard-working” Repubs. Guess that “United We Stand” stuff after 9/11 didn’t take hold in their minds, did it? Lasted about a week or so if I remember correctly.
Oh, and yes, please, let’s go back to the good ‘ol days of apple pie and baseball, when they created Social Security and Medicare and similar programs, and the top marginal tax rate was over 90% to pay for it all.
http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
Yep. Those “great American” Repubs. United We Stand, unless you cost me a few bucks, then I’m bringing guns to public forums! Lee fuckin’ Greenwood, baby!
I think that is the worst story here tonight, if not ever.
Nighters.
Think I’ll head out too, splendid evening to all.
Yay! I am redeemed (slightly).
Well, thanks for recognizing something I’d much more want to be wrong about.
In your defense, it happened slowly for most of us.
Being the NotJohnMcCain guy was overwhelming. Projecting hopes upon him was natural, and we knew it would be a fight to get him Left anyway.
The question was always, HOW hard.
Ta ta Rattykins!
That is a sign that a great many more people are in the same situation as your daughter. My best wishes for you both.
Sorkin:
“… a Leave It To Beaver trip back to the Fifties.”
We are all Wally now.
And try to give rich people their children through Christian adoption centers.
Yes, she did stop it. Prednisone and Singulair now. Who knows?
im gonna split with this thought; the best thing about ayn rand is shes dead. as greedy and small as she was,death is even greedier and smaller. shes just a leering skull and some bones and a putrid polyester coffin dress now. And since she was a god mocker and an atheist in life, her fundie admirers can believe shes burning in hell too.
To be sure, it was as obvious to me as no WMDs in Iraq, that the Lefties were projecting their hopes on O. Shit. It was only natural. How could he possibly be as bad as W? And the rest of us were hoping against hope (heh) that the first black prez would be a testimonial to the greatness of the U.S. rather than a sellout.
Yeah, well the right-wing lunatics are all Eddie Haskell!
FWDiva
strong stuff
nite solerso
I read somewhere today that large corps are starting to cut way back on the health care for their employees. Who will be left to use the health care system?
look at it this way: not having a functioning healthcare system is a great incentive not to get sick ;-)
It’s all about incentives. /s
What the heck? We’ll need advances if you’re going to be on tv.
I can not find disagreement with you.
But when we watched the FISA vote, and when we saw a fateful Saturday morning appearance in Bible-Country when he not only reaffirmed Faith-Based initiatives but swore to strengthen them, and when he talked about “looking forward,” we knew it would be tough sledding.
Something new, this pagan ritual thang, Mary? *G*
So long folks, out of here at dawn for:
http://www.strawberrymusic.com/home.asp
And four of the best living pedal steel players among us Including Bobby Black and Cindy Cashdollar.
5,000 of our best friends, fest camping, fest sipping, fest supping in 4 Star Quality.
And the picking every day and night. This is a GREAT pickers fest.
And the main stage music don’t suck.
And it’s my beloved Sierra’s, JUST outside Yosemite (no fire hassles), at 4,500 ft.
“in the pines, in the pines.
Where the sun never shines.”
“If you ever feel lonely,
And yer down in San Antoine.”
Rock Me Mama, Like A Wagon Wheel!
*G*
Woot!
Ah, in the same way that childhood hunger can be a potent motivator?
FWDiva
Torches are sharpened, and pitchforks have long had their wick trimmed up for light.
All hell’s gonna break loose if Obama don’t get a REAL public option done.
Now, for all, with competition for insurance companies.
Pure hell is gonna bust loose if he caves on this.
And yeah, I’ll march in the streets, again. Did in ‘69-72.
Thanks AZ Matt,
You are very kind to send best wishes.
Chris
Those daze are long gone. I was frequent instant analyst on econ data from about 1990 to 2000, after which my Wall St. firm shit canned me over an internal political feud.
there was a Newsweek article I linked here a couple of weeks ago suggesting that barter has come back in our healthcare system.. accountants trading tax return preparation for healthcare for their kids, mechanics fixing cars, etc. In economics this is evidence of the ultimate breakdown of a market – when the official medium of exhange becomes so degraded that it’s replaced by barter. The article actually had a capsule that suggested people in dire economic straits try to negotiate such deals.
(((((Christine)))))
The markets will always respond.
I got this here spare kidney…
rethug orc logic.
For me, the telling moment was at NN2008. I whined to the O reps about his reversal on FISA. Their response was: So what’s you’re alternative? O’s reps were young and inexperienced, but by being so, they unknowingly revealed his strategy of screwing the left.
There are two competing barter organizations where I live. They are both becoming so popular they’ve hired an employee or two to keep up. All within the last couple of years.
Kind of nice in many ways.
Hey gal!
Thanks!
Night all.
Par. The. Non.
Cryptic code, likely from McDougal Da Vince, a noted links genius and historian.
As I recall, he danced around it for a week or two, and folded like a good ReidBot.
Or is that a McConnellBot. Or LiebermanBot.
And the numbers of home gardeners has skyrocketed……pull yourself up by your bootstraps, grow your own food, and so forth. I never thought I’d see such a time. I am disappointed in my government…..such a bunch of losers.
Might be a good idea to get one of those medic alert bracelets with Allergic To Penicillin etc. on it. This is when she has to start making sure she mentions this allergy every single time she goes to the doctor’s office or to the hospital.
innovative solutions for a failed state?
Yeah, millions.
Ever been to bankruptcy, or starvation?
Or places where it’s prevalent?
No?
Oh, ok.
Then ewe don’t kno.
Look at the facts, google up bankrupt by medical, for instance.
I HATE doin yer homework for ya, when it’s so easy.
That is nice.
Sounds great
Until the IRS decides to demand its pound of flesh from the transactions. Because income is income!
Guess I’d better google and see if there’s something like that in my area…
FWDiva
I seem to remember hearing that the way they calculate unemployment numbers and several other economic indicators is a lot different than they did in 1930s, and if you use the same methodology as the 1930s, we’re very close to Great Depression numbers in many categories.
Thanks Repubs! Over the last 100 years, every De/Recession was preceded by Repub dominance and drastic tax cutting:
http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
What The Fuck?
You are disputing there are millions of poor, in our country, starving, and lacking healthcare, who are broke for food AND healthcare?
Are you just mean, or just stupid?
Margot,
So strange. Our family has had so little prescription medication all our lives that we don’t even KNOW if we are allergic to any. The children were given ammox. for ear infections for early years. Then nothing. Now all grown and away, who knows what meds are bad? I think that the combination of illness, stress, red hair allergies (gosh those red heads have such terrible allergies) and such just slammed with infection. I’ll see her this weekend.
Of course you are right, but a major disappointment is that the Democratic Party is so inept and corrupt. And Obama seems to be a wimp…..or simply bought. I sure would like to see someone with real character. Wonder if such a one exists anymore?
Oh, yer dismissed.
Leave at yer own chosen speed, though.
We’re a civil lot, in some ways.
Wait, what’s the title of the If you ever feel lonely song? Come back!
Well, Obama did just push through a middle class tax CUT and raised taxes for the upper 2% of income earners (I’m working like hell to get into that top bracket! Can’t wait to pay a little more percentage). Step in the correct direction I’d say. Still a long ways to go though.
Watertiger, I want to know. Whatever happened to:
“When you’re down and out,
When you’re on the street,
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you.
I’ll take your part.
When darkness comes
And pain is all around
…I will lay me down…
Like a bridge over troubled water”.
Think Katrina and health care.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYKJuDxYr3I
(cross-posted at The Sideshow)
The Republican Party: the party of inhumane morons. I would love to be designing ads for nearly any Democrat running in 2010, especially anyone lucky enough to be running against Coburn or Jenkins. Do these pinheads not realize that it is axiomatic that any public appearance they make – and thus, everything they say in public – will end up on YouTube? On what planet do these imbeciles think that this kind of cold-hearted Ebenezer Scrooge routine is going to play well? Written evidence of stupidity is bad enough, but video evidence of these clowns proving that they are imbecilic heartless bastards is the kiss of political death. I sincerely doubt that it will even play well in a primary race, especially in an opponent chooses to exploit it. I would bet a year’s salary that it won’t play well in any general election.
As for Maria Bartiromo, she is just plain old garden variety stupid.
In The Moonlight, Midnight. *G*
Old And In The Way.
Peter Rowan on lead vocals.
The Fat Man on the 5.
Grisman on the mando.
Vassar, dear Vassar, on the fiddle.
John Kahn bass.
And all gods they were . . . *G*
Thank you, thank you! Have a wonderful fest. I love Old and in the Way.
And I do too, they are hearts and souls to many a camp jam and pickin, as much as Bill Monroe is.
And thanks to mods, for releasing my posts.
Perhaps, some day, I can be freed from the steely grip of the discontent with my place on the planet.
Then, my posts will pop up in a more timely like fashion, sans moderation.
And I can bond more freely and immediately with fellow Puppers.
*G*
Till then, this fuckin Larue’s Gone Festin!
And THIS is one of my fav Old In The Way/Stones Songs, EVAH! *G*
We’ll Pick THIS One A Few Times This Week!
I don’t believe they both share this same agenda, must read and who is going to pay for this?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f…..eId=108648