Comments on: Early Morning Swim: Rachel Takes Tom Ridge to the Woodshed http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:27:58 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Mile23 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969529 Mile23 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:32:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969529 <p>Tom Ridge gets to have his cake and eat it, too. He can write in plain english that he worried whether the alert system was being politicized, then go and say it wasn’t politicized, because in that one instance he’s talking about, the alert wasn’t raised. Then he can go on a ‘liberal’ talk show and do everything in his power to further muddy the water he (and his publisher) have already muddied, by dissembling and being unclear.</p> <p>What to look for in the near future: Ridge on right-wing talk shows claiming he was misquoted and taken out of context by the Librul Meedja. Then his wingnut welfare credentials will be complete, and he’ll be able to get any book published he so desires.</p> Tom Ridge gets to have his cake and eat it, too. He can write in plain english that he worried whether the alert system was being politicized, then go and say it wasn’t politicized, because in that one instance he’s talking about, the alert wasn’t raised. Then he can go on a ‘liberal’ talk show and do everything in his power to further muddy the water he (and his publisher) have already muddied, by dissembling and being unclear.

What to look for in the near future: Ridge on right-wing talk shows claiming he was misquoted and taken out of context by the Librul Meedja. Then his wingnut welfare credentials will be complete, and he’ll be able to get any book published he so desires.

]]> By: MartyDidier http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969526 MartyDidier Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:51:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969526 <p>Good post Kitt..<br /> However I’d like to add more hopefully to open your eyes to what is beneath this mess. Please read my post #25 located on another aticle here.</p> <p><a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/" rel="nofollow">http://emptywheel.firedoglake......the-right/</a></p> <p>This new White House Coup is like a Movement involving almost too many people to count. We’ve been dealing with lies enough to fill libraries since Bush was in office. 911 was the kick off for efforts in the Coup. As per the family I was in, the ongoing lies are by design meant to keep us runningin circles. Hopefully now we are calling a spade a spade and will get past the lies into what lays beneath and that is the Coup attempt. </p> <p>I was told back in the 90’s that following 911 (then it was called something else) we would see our economy collapse. Watching the news, there is ongoing efforts to make us all feel safe and good that things are changing for the good but there are reports they aren’t. Because “Mind Control” schemes are used to try to manipulate our perceptions we have to be aware that things may not be as what they say. Reading the many posts, it’s clear many people are distrusting rather than trusting anything reported and this is for good reason. </p> <p>If you read my post, please accept that good things are happening. AT least there is some good news to report….</p> <p>There is a lot to talk about regarding this for another time….</p> <p>Marty Didier<br /> Northbrook, IL</p> Good post Kitt..
However I’d like to add more hopefully to open your eyes to what is beneath this mess. Please read my post #25 located on another aticle here.

http://emptywheel.firedoglake……the-right/

This new White House Coup is like a Movement involving almost too many people to count. We’ve been dealing with lies enough to fill libraries since Bush was in office. 911 was the kick off for efforts in the Coup. As per the family I was in, the ongoing lies are by design meant to keep us runningin circles. Hopefully now we are calling a spade a spade and will get past the lies into what lays beneath and that is the Coup attempt.

I was told back in the 90’s that following 911 (then it was called something else) we would see our economy collapse. Watching the news, there is ongoing efforts to make us all feel safe and good that things are changing for the good but there are reports they aren’t. Because “Mind Control” schemes are used to try to manipulate our perceptions we have to be aware that things may not be as what they say. Reading the many posts, it’s clear many people are distrusting rather than trusting anything reported and this is for good reason.

If you read my post, please accept that good things are happening. AT least there is some good news to report….

There is a lot to talk about regarding this for another time….

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

]]> By: NealDeesit http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969525 NealDeesit Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:42:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969525 <p><em>“Don’t worry Tom - it’ll be a piece of cake.”</em></p> <p>As Rachel demonstrated, it’s Tom who’s the piece of cake, and Rachel very neatly sliced him up. Expect similar dismemberment at Ridge’s Book Salon appearance.</p> “Don’t worry Tom – it’ll be a piece of cake.”

As Rachel demonstrated, it’s Tom who’s the piece of cake, and Rachel very neatly sliced him up. Expect similar dismemberment at Ridge’s Book Salon appearance.

]]> By: mattd http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969500 mattd Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:49:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969500 <blockquote><p> CONAN: And I’d like to read you the lead of a story run by the AP a couple of days ago…</p></blockquote> <p>Why was Conan (O’Brien?) questioning Tom Ridge on Rachel Maddow’s show?</p>

CONAN: And I’d like to read you the lead of a story run by the AP a couple of days ago…

Why was Conan (O’Brien?) questioning Tom Ridge on Rachel Maddow’s show?

]]> By: tejanarusa http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969465 tejanarusa Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:00:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969465 <p>I can’t believe he will show up here. Do you think his schedulers just tell him “here’s whree you’ll be today,” and he doesn’t bother to find out anything about the audience?<br /> I wonder if we can all be as polite as Rachel…</p> I can’t believe he will show up here. Do you think his schedulers just tell him “here’s whree you’ll be today,” and he doesn’t bother to find out anything about the audience?
I wonder if we can all be as polite as Rachel…

]]> By: jimbo http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969451 jimbo Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:58:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969451 <p>Ridge appears to disply a liars tell. For each lie he ’sniffs’ on the rigght side of his face.</p> Ridge appears to disply a liars tell. For each lie he ’sniffs’ on the rigght side of his face.

]]> By: davidlerch2748 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969439 davidlerch2748 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:30:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969439 <p>Yeah, and chickens can fly. Let’s start wondering if any of former Bush aids, office holders, cabinet members, just anyone is going to come out with a positive take on what this bafoon did for 8 years. So far there have been none. And Ridge is another example of writing one thing and then himhawing around it when questioned. All Ridges book does is lend credibility with what many suspected, that politics lead the way by faking, in this case, the threat level. I shake my head in amazement when I hear conservatives talk with pride about Bush’s remarkable military prowess in ordering the surge. All the surge did was put more military in harms way in a war that should have never happened. Its like Bush found a better, stronger stink spray to try and cover the awful odor this whole thing has caused.</p> Yeah, and chickens can fly. Let’s start wondering if any of former Bush aids, office holders, cabinet members, just anyone is going to come out with a positive take on what this bafoon did for 8 years. So far there have been none. And Ridge is another example of writing one thing and then himhawing around it when questioned. All Ridges book does is lend credibility with what many suspected, that politics lead the way by faking, in this case, the threat level. I shake my head in amazement when I hear conservatives talk with pride about Bush’s remarkable military prowess in ordering the surge. All the surge did was put more military in harms way in a war that should have never happened. Its like Bush found a better, stronger stink spray to try and cover the awful odor this whole thing has caused.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969437 cinnamonape Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:18:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969437 <p>Ridge:<br /></p><blockquote>just try to remind everyone that after 9/11, everybody was scrambling to make sure that it didn’t happen again.</blockquote> <p>Except that these bogus “orange alerts” [remember the airplane bomb attack on the Los angeles airport, the plots to destroy the Statue of Liberty, Disneyland, and the series of French flights that had terrorists that turned out to be a 7 year old kid, a grandma, and a bunch of well-respected French businessmen] continued well into 2006. </p> <p>Ridge is right in one respect, it wasn’t that the procedures used in the alerts before the 2004 election were an anomaly. There wasn’t anything unusual about what Rummy, Cheney and others did in 2004. It was Standard Operating Procedure. ALL the alerts were politically based…both in timing, and in the evidence used to trigger them.</p> <p>Proof perfect: Did one single “orange alert” lead to finding a bomb, or terrorist cell, or thwarting an imminent attack?</p> Ridge:

just try to remind everyone that after 9/11, everybody was scrambling to make sure that it didn’t happen again.

Except that these bogus “orange alerts” [remember the airplane bomb attack on the Los angeles airport, the plots to destroy the Statue of Liberty, Disneyland, and the series of French flights that had terrorists that turned out to be a 7 year old kid, a grandma, and a bunch of well-respected French businessmen] continued well into 2006.

Ridge is right in one respect, it wasn’t that the procedures used in the alerts before the 2004 election were an anomaly. There wasn’t anything unusual about what Rummy, Cheney and others did in 2004. It was Standard Operating Procedure. ALL the alerts were politically based…both in timing, and in the evidence used to trigger them.

Proof perfect: Did one single “orange alert” lead to finding a bomb, or terrorist cell, or thwarting an imminent attack?

]]> By: RepackRider http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969436 RepackRider Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:15:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969436 <p>Go over to msnbc.com and play the video. Multiple times. Drive Rachel’s numbers through the roof and make her impossible to ignore.</p> <p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/" rel="nofollow">Here’s the link.</a></p> <p>She makes me wish I were a woman so I would have a chance with her.</p> Go over to msnbc.com and play the video. Multiple times. Drive Rachel’s numbers through the roof and make her impossible to ignore.

Here’s the link.

She makes me wish I were a woman so I would have a chance with her.

]]> By: Margot http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969435 Margot Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:03:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/early-morning-swim-rachel-takes-ridge-to-the-woodshed/#comment-1969435 <p>He seems not to have lived through the same past 9 years that I did.<br /> “That’s pretty radical” to believe the W admin. knew there weren’t WMD and went ahead and drummed up a war on lies?<br /> Yeah, it shocks the conscience. That just isn’t done! This is America! We never do anything wrong.<br /> Therefore it wasn’t done, and didn’t happen, and he can sit back and call us radicals and look complacent.<br /> Perception is reality.</p> He seems not to have lived through the same past 9 years that I did.
“That’s pretty radical” to believe the W admin. knew there weren’t WMD and went ahead and drummed up a war on lies?
Yeah, it shocks the conscience. That just isn’t done! This is America! We never do anything wrong.
Therefore it wasn’t done, and didn’t happen, and he can sit back and call us radicals and look complacent.
Perception is reality.

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