Item: Jane and Slinkerwink sponsor a contest to see which member of the Nervous-Nellie Caucus is the most indebted to lobbyists. That’s the caucus whose members claim to be mainstream Democrats in tune with America, and whose seats are safely Democratic, but who for some as-yet-unknown reason quail at the thought of backing something three-quarters of Americans and almost all Democrats want.
Item: Glenn Greenwald and legendary journalist and political observer Bill Moyers agree that what’s ruining the Democrats is their looking to corporations — generally the same ones that fund the GOP — for the cash needed to win elections.
Item: Paul Krugman describes the culture of corporate lobbyist control of Congress — a culture that didn’t exist as recently as thirty years ago — as the main obstacle to democracy in general and meaningful health care reform in particular:
And now that this system exists, reform of any kind has become extremely difficult. That’s especially true for health care, where growing spending has made the vested interests far more powerful than they were in Nixon’s day. The health insurance industry, in particular, saw its premiums go from 1.5 percent of G.D.P. in 1970 to 5.5 percent in 2007, so that a once minor player has become a political behemoth, one that is currently spending $1.4 million a day lobbying Congress.
That spending fuels debates that otherwise seem incomprehensible. Why are “centrist” Democrats like Senator Kent Conrad of North Dakota so opposed to letting a public plan, in which Americans can buy their insurance directly from the government, compete with private insurers? Never mind their often incoherent arguments; what it comes down to is the money.
I think we all get the picture here. It’s about the money.
So how do we shut off the money spigot? How do we get our democracy back from the obscenely rich and obscenely greedy corporate entities that hijacked it?
Campaign finance reform legislation such as McCain-Feingold, while well-intentioned (at least on Russ Feingold’s part), has been laughably easy to thwart. Increasingly, pulling some if not all private money out of the campaign cycle is looking like the only way to go — which is where Public Campaign comes in.
Interestingly enough, a growing number of businesses are starting to back this idea, as shown by the wide support in much of the business community for the Fair Elections Now Act, which would promote public financing and rein in the amount of private cash spent during an election season. Why? Because many businesses are sick of having to spend so much dough on lobbyists — especially when their bigger competitors can afford more and better lobbyists. Putting an end to the lobbyist arms race levels the playing field and allows small businesses as well as individuals a place at the Capitol Hill table.
However, the really big money is so dug into their fur-lined platinum foxholes on the Hill that taking them out of the picture will be difficult to do with a frontal assault. That’s why the Clean Elections campaign started from the state and local levels, and is meeting with surprising success at those levels. (Of course, one of the first things that Republican politicians demand to be sacrificed to the balanced-budget gods are state-run clean elections programs. Gosh, I’m so surprised.)
This is the sort of thing that anyone, regardless of party, can and should get behind if they want their country back.



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Spot on! I have nothing to add.
Yeah, and it doesn’t help when folks/groups on the left raise money to become a force. The Financial Race does play a role. No matter how much we can raise on the left, the right can raise that much more.
You’ll always have to worry about the lobby lobby.
Exactly. That goes for other fields of endeavor, too. I have to laugh bitterly when I hear righties whine about George Soros — he doesn’t come close to being the partisan media mogul that Rupert Murdoch is. Or Sun Myung Moon is. Or Richard Mellon Scaife is. Or Silvio Berlusconi is (hell, Silvio used his near-complete control of the Italian press to make himself the country’s prime minister). Or Jack Welch does (he’s only retired in name — he still takes an active interest in the GE media holdings, which include NBC). Or Conrad Black did until his recent fall from grace.
Public Option.
If this is such a great idea and will not run up the deficit, why
doesn’t someone like George Soros start a company that covers all the
uninsured and competes with the health care companies?
Business should also see the benefit of a public health care option for employees. All that blabber about “legacy costs” re: auto manufacturing specifically and American competitiveness generally, and there is nary a peep from any business entities.
Who is speaking for American businesses? The US Chamber of Commerce is spending millions of dollars on FM radio ads in vehement opposition to health care reform of any kind.
We should boycott the Chamber at every level.
Right on cue, the wingnuts bring up Soros even when it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Nice.
Can you answer the question?
Why should he? It’s a stupid question asked in bad faith.
I’d like to know Sambot’s age. Sambot’s remarks indicate that she has not had any dealings whatsoever with health
insurancecare companies.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..r_embedded
This is not a parody. This is a Teabagger event in Ely, NV this past Sunday.
Enjoy….
Ask Soros, I can’t speak for him. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that though he’s rich, he’s not a trillionaire.
Can you answer the question?
He has the money to fund such a venture.
Sometimes I think the progressive blogosphere should devote ALL of its energy to campaign finance reform, because everything flows from there. It’s no use fighting each and every issue one at a time when the ground rules for the whole goddam game are rigged to start with.
Why does he need to be a trillionaire if it is going to be defecit neutral?
Absolutly right!
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Thanks, that was a better answer.
Thanks for bringing up this important topic, PW. This is no longer a partisan issue, since both sides of the aisle are getting their pockets lined. Campaign finance reform is a must, after The Hague trials.
Dickless Cheney and Twitchy Bush, The Hague ‘10
Hey, progressives, here’s one idea – please start yelling ‘We want our country back!’ at lobbyists. Wait until they come to replace the homeless people they pay to stand in line for them at mark-up hearing rooms, roll the cameras and embarrass the hell out of them. This particular rot requires not just sunshine but a load of disinfectant as well. Human cockroaches these people, like something out of a horror movie. Stateless bastard saboteurs.
My pleasure.
Age 49. Pay my premium, go to the doctor, pay a deductible , end of story.
“Daddy, why is the sky blue?”
I could answer, “Rayleigh scattering of sunlight in the clear atmosphere” but he wouldn’t understand it.
What? No takers?
Public Option.
If this is such a great idea and will not run up the deficit, why
doesn’t someone like George Soros start a company that covers all the
uninsured and competes with the health care companies?
this debate over health care reform – president obama as did all the democratic contenders during the last campaign ran on it, the american people overwhelmingly voted for it, all except for the unthinking and uninformed fringe know the status quo is only acceptable to the health care industry whose large profits are made on the suffering of americans and even fiscal conservatives know the present trajectory of % of budget spent on it is unsustainable.
and yet we are where we are; showing all transparently just who those we vote to represent us, represent; those to whom they turn to finance their next primary and the power they in turn hold over these self same “people’s representatives.”
the only way the many complex and inter-connected challenges facing the future of our country and ourselves will never be met unless and until there is public financing of all elections. those we elect to vote their conscience and their districts and/or states only do so within the confines of their next primary and campaign donations.
Over at dKos there has been a big flap over Slinkerwink and NYCEve’s support from FDL. They have addressed it just fine, IMHO. But there is also criticism of the strategy here in this and earlier posts this week (summarized by http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..o-Sponsors ) which I would like to see addressed clearly at FDL. To be brief, many supporters of HR676, the single payer bill, are seemingly lumped in your contest with those who are refusing to support the public option for presumably less noble reasons.
I would like to see a differentiation made and perhaps an apology to HR676’s supporters. Yes, I know that the best is enemy of the good, but these representatives are making a principled stand which I admire. They won’t compromise (ie, support the public option) till single payer is absolutely dead. I would argue that it is not dead so long as it keeps the window of debate open in the most progressive direction. Their position may be enough to tilt the playing field enough to the left to make the public option possible. Think about it.
I don’t think Mr Soros is rich as Croesus but why should you expect him to do as you suggest?
I suspect that Mr Soros and I are in agreement on many issues but I also understand that he is a business man.
I also find myself often agreeing with Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Ted Turner, and Steve Jobs on many political and social issues. I wouldn’t expect them to pay for an option as you describe. But I think most all of these men would agree that a public option for healthcare would make sense morally and economically.
I have been trying to get a constitutional ammendment going that would require federal elected reps and senators to recuse themselves from voting on any issue that benefits a company or industry from whom they have received more than 5% (in any year and over the preceding three years) of the mean income of the country.
Barriers to entry and economies of scope.
Start up costs too high to be competitive.
Must leverage existing VA and Medicare/Medicaid infrastructure to minimize costs.
Be gone.
Here in CA, we have a ballot measure in the June 2010 elections, the California Fair Elections Act. This would create a Clean Election for the Secretary of State’s office, which oversees state elections. More details at the California Clean Money Campaign. If you’re in CA, please spread the word!
There isn’t any solution. The people you want to get rid of would have to pass the laws that kill their careers. This is never going to happen.
My point is that the PO will cost much more than the democrats are admitting. Otherwise, someone would step in and fund the costs.
and the reason that Mr. Soros would probably be unwilling to start his own health insurance concern is because he does not believe in murder by spread sheet. This makes any health insurance company he would start a losing entity.
One thing I hope to see as the health care bills start to hit the floor is some attention paid to small businesses, which have been crushed by the inexorable rise in health insurance premiums.
There are companies that have had to forgo the extra employee they could have hired but insurance costs eat up what would have been that persons salary.
There are people that have not received job offers b/c they would require family coverage and the employer can’t eat that $12K+/year so they have to consciously discriminate and find an employee that will only need single coverage.
All these foolish and uneconomic costs weigh on the smaller firms, the ones responsible for most employment growth in America. Big firms then buy up the little ones who are crippled by both their health costs and taxes (large firms use their international status to reduce their tax bill, another problem Obama is trying to eliminate) – and then cut jobs. This insane cycle has to stop.
GE pays around 11% in corporate taxes per year, the regular corporate rate, mainly paid by small to mid-size biz, is 32% or so. Sorry for the rant, but small biz needs to be encouraged to step up their activism on this and other issues. Personally I would love to pay only 11% in tax per year but I’m not a huge multi-national that can tax dodge like that.
Looks like a great SNL parody to me. Cheri Oteri could play the one in the green. Thanks for the laugh. We needed it.
Ah, the lobbyists, from whom all blessings flow. Amen to your comment, Eagleye.
Lordy.
Your suggestion is nonsensical b/c you are asking (theoretically) why a private individual would invest their own money in a system designed to generate no profit. Do you understand capitalism correctly? Non-profits do not make money – thus, they are not appropriate for any one persons’ funds alone. If the government funds such an entity it is to achieve a social good, such as reducing ill health in the country, boosting employment via easing the burden on companies, improving preventive care, reducing the tendency towards over-testing and over-prescribing that are unavoidable due to profit motive. If properly done, the set-up costs will be offset by future savings and thus the deficit neutral tendency overtime.
You don’t know what the cost of health care is because the entire system of healt care delivery is full of bloated profits.
If all the people who participate in health care delivery were paid fairly and well according to their level of competence and job description, it is very likely that the overall cost of health care could cost half of what it does today.
To me this re calibration of the health industry IS the plan that serves the public ALL the public, rich and poor and IS affordable and is what needs to be done
The gov should not, cannot and will not simply pay the bloated prices of the greedy who are leeches of the pain and suffering of americans in the “health industrial complex”.
Sambot doesn’t care. His/her mind is made up and he/she is only here to get attention. Talking to Sambot is rather like talking to a dining room table leg.
If 50 million uninsured are suddenly insured, where are the doctors and nurses going to come from?
I’m pretty sure you just violated the Geneva Conventions.
The deficit neutral means it would not add to the deficit. Moneys that are needed to implement would come from taxing the wealthiest, savings from other programs etc.
Yeah, but where do we find the lobbyists so we call yell at them on camera? They don’t seem to schedule townhall meetings. I suppose we could ambush them individually like O’Reilly does, but it would be like mud wrestling a pig: we would get dirty and they would enjoy it. Boohoo, those left-of-the-left DFH thugs.
Oh look, Sambot is a bigot. No one could have anticipated…
There are plenty of new grads with their masters in nursing ready and willing to take care of patients. They are the new primary care providers.
So, your theory is to not have care available to everyone because of a lack of personel?
Have you ever been sick? I mean really sick, painfully sick and been turned away because of lack of funds? Or do you believe that people with no money are just bums? Even in this economy.
That kind of talking is something you learn at your mother’s knee and other low joints. My favorite Victor Borge joke.
Medical schools are stepping up enrollments and thru debt forgiveness programs new graduates are being encouraged to go where they are needed.
As Puma said earlier:
Several people have explained it, but it doesn’t matter. Getting a serious answer wasn’t the intent of the question.
Actually I don’t think you understand the point or preparedness level for achieving this reform. You like to paint it as ’suddenly insured’ when in fact limits will apply as to who can participate in the insurance exchange and who can avail themselves of the public option on said exchange and when. Since we rarely step over dead people in the street, obv. the currently uninsured are either forgoing care completely until they are hauled into the emergency room in dire straits and/or are burdening emergency and urgent care centers with routine health problems now. Stop being so deliberately obtuse to try and make your phony points, please. It’s childish.
Spoken lihe a true Stalinest.
And there are alternative fields that are coming on board like acupuncture.
Hey it’s Obama who promised that everyone would be insured.
And they will, b/c unfortunately our evil plan to exclude Republicans and send them straight to death panels has been discovered! Rats!
And they all have job offers because the healthcare industry needs them.
Add another 30 million and no way you can provide the bodies needed.
Med school is a long term process.
Not a bigot. Just a reference to Barney Frank being a homosexual.
wiki:
Russert was posthumously revealed as a 30-year source for syndicated columnist Robert Novak
one will need to somehow couple the media into the reforms.
GG:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
Beltway culture, checks on journalists and secrecy obligations
Maybe you could volunteer for M. Bachman’s wrist slicing crew so we wouldn’t have to worry about getting you in there, Sambot. Meow.
No such reference was necessary. The fact that you felt a need to make one suggests bigotry.
It’s been clear to me that publicly funded elections are a must in this country. Watching all these “Dems” squirm around trying to find process or substance rationales for their untenable anti-reform positions, when all that’s really at the root is simple bribery from the healthco’s and insco’s, it’s plain as the nose on your face (well, MY face anyway) that publicly funded elections are vital; in fact, in my view, that should be the next big crusade no matter what happens with healthcare reform.
By the way, Sambot = troll (aka Jodi). Ignore trolls, else they steal the thread.
Med students rarely make their decisions as to field until third or fourth year. Meanwhile they are frequently sitting on a mountain of debt.
That’s your response?
Your point of view is simplistic. Yes, taken by itself the Public Option will cost something provided you see the rest of the federal budget as untouchable. Take, for example, the general perception that social security and medicare are bankrupting the government. That’s totally false. Our stalwart representatives use FICA money to run the country. They use it to offset tax reductions for the wealthy. (Are you wealthy by the way?) We would benefit if we spend less on defense and used the savings to fund worthwhile projects. The federal government is a multi trillion dollar operation. We need to move funds around. We say there is little discretionary wiggle room. That’s because we choose to see some things as essential (ie the defense budget) Were we to change our perception, more discretionary dollars become available.
A public option, if sufficiently patronized, might release funds that otherwise fill insurance company coffers. As a died in the wool free enterpriser, which I suppose you are, you think free markets are most efficient. That’s foolishness. If it turns out there’s a loss on a public option we are better off with that than most of the other stuff government invests in.
True statement there.
Tried to keep it short for you, don’t want to strain your intellect. Obv. you didn’t read any of the serious answers to your deliberately asinine questions.
I say cut every program 20% and rein in the deficit. Military included.
Don’t leave the status quo and add a new program that is going to heap on more debt.
That is a fine explanation doubtless lost on the unreading eyes of the Sambot troll.
Sambot:
answer my question
answer my question
will someone answer my question
cummon guys answer my question
You are 49? God the question is in text everyone can see it, its just a dumb question and most people don’t want to talk to you.
Cut across the board 20% is always what Republicans want to do. Republicans increase military spending, cut taxes on the wealthiest (both earned and inherited) and when the resultant deficits blow up insist that the US must cut social programs for the least among us b/c we can’t afford it. Oh, and cutting defense spending is being weak on defense, so that’s untouchable to you all.
Dems cut taxes on the poorest, cut military spending and increase social spending. Taxes will rise on the upper brackets, tax dodging will no longer be consider sport, and the cost of war will actually go in the budget where it belongs. Ideally this will encourage the country to have fewer of them. Wars I mean, and perhaps, with luck, Republicans.
The ANSWER to the question is that Soros would go raise the billions it would take if he could just break even as promised by the supporters of the PO. In reality it is going to blow another huge hole in the budget for decades to come. Tax the rich? There’s not enough rich to cover 50 million no matter how high you raise their taxes. Use your common sense. That’s why the votes aren’t there. It was just another useless campaign promise to get another career politician elected.
People on the right seem to believe they should receive back in government services an equivalent to what they pay in taxes. This notion is mistaken. Childless people pay taxes to educate other people’s children. People fortunate enough to not have their house burn down, pay for a fire department-Hey-you never know. Government interests are openended. Two cops are better than one; three parks better than two. Government, like all of us, makes choices. Right now we choose to make Predators rather than build hospitals.
Some people, like myself, think health care should be a government provided service like the police, fire, and, yes, the defense department. As for where we get the money, we can either terminate existing services (reduce expenditures), raise taxes or a bit of both.
There is no way to cut 20% or 10% from many of the budget items. Infrastructure needs much more. FAA has been operating on a shoestring, FDA, EPA, Interior and several others that have been canabalized during the GWB debacle need more money.
And our government likes to spend not cut. That’s how we got to a 7 trillion deficit. They stole the SS monies and spent it. It won’t change.
Remember the promise from Obama, ” there will be no pork in the stimulus bill”. Ha. That was a good one.
A few years ago, I mentioned to a Canadian friend living in the US that it seemed to me that a major source of the expense of campaigning was the enormous cost of TV advertising time. I wondered if, since the airwaves belong to the public and are licensed to the station owners, it would be an idea to require the station owners – as a condition of their licenses – to provide free advertising time to the campaigners. The campaigners would be limited to the amount of airtime available.
Ergo, less dependence on money/lobbyists.
My friend said,”That’s not how they think down here.”
my pet project and in fact pw, this is the reason I really wanted franken your senator is he’s made it one if his principle platforms;
once we allow private funding of campaighs we are making it legal to buy law
that has got to stop, law should not go to those who financed a campaign
“So how do we shut off the money spigot? How do we get our democracy back from the obscenely rich and obscenely greedy corporate entities that hijacked it?”
How about an organized effort to overturn court decisions that restrict the states ability to limit political spending and contributions? We should also try to fight the idea that money from lobbyists counts as free speech because the idea allows the most powerful to have the largest voice and because much of the money given to politicians is basically bribe money. We can’t have a functional democracy when the powerful can drown out the voice of the powerless. Overturn Davis vs. FEC and the court decisions disallowing bans on paid signature gatherers and we would be in much better shape. Are there any groups working on this?
Obviously this is true, many worthwhile and very necessary social programs have been starved for funding while Grover Norquist was yelling about getting government to drown in the bathtub.
Then assholes like Sambot immediately start complaining about costs of this, that, everything, anything like a complete twit. Where was all this complaining about the country’s finances when we were shipping shrink-wrap palettes of money to Iraq for Paul (a fucking disgrace to the medal of freedom if there ever was one) Bremer to hand out? Do you think I’m kidding? All that war expense was built up off budget for years and when Obama comes in, puts war funding in the budget where it belongs (war is not a short-term event, Republicans) suddenly the Repubs spring their trap and get the vapors over deficits in order to try and stop the programs the Democrats ran on.
Then they get on message boards and say your candidates lied to you. They forget to mention how carefully they laid plans to sabotage the country for their own political gain. Fucking tossers.
Wow, It’s really getting loud in here. Kinda starting to sound like a tea-baggers ball or some crazy troll hall. Let the trolls go their merry way and lets continue the important dialog that FDL is so famous for. Too many important details to iron out and too little time to do it.
Shoo trolls, shooo.
Since you brought my name up, let it be known that I thought Bush was the biggest spending liberal that has ever occupied the White House until Obama showed him how to double down. The man never vetoed one bill in his first term. Are you kidding me? He was by no means a conservative. Goofball maybe.
I’m sorry, you are right, of course, I got lured in. I’ve really got to get over hating Republicans and suggesting they die. I’ll just give myself a time out.
The way to shut off the money is to make it untenable for members of Congress to accept corporate bribes. Since the current law allows them this morally criminal leeway, they have to be pubically shamed and called out for their betrayal in a way that makes them vulnerable at the polls. It requires work, constant harrassment and raising money to expose them, but it is the only alternate means available. Our side has to be just as big, just as loud, and just as organized as the corporate side. If these guys take the bribes and do their corporate bidding which is contrary to the public interest, than they must be demonized in the eyes of the public. Take them on and expose them until they can only dream about increasing their polls numbers to match Dick Cheneys.
There are no details. Obama’s at 45 and dropping and Grassley is saying there is no chance for the PO. Time to move on.
If business interests and public interests ever are aligned on public funding, there will be these obstacles:
1. Actually getting the private funding arms race out of the picture
2. The lobbying by the lobbyists themselves
3. The lumping of corporate lobbying groups and public interest groups into the same legislation
4. Smart lawyers who can frame any action as violation of freedom or speech or freedom of association
We have disclosure; we know where the money is going and a whole lot of the money laundering dodges. But we haven’t used this information effectively on a broad scale to force the politicians themselves to make changes. Nor are we clear how to do that.
We have modest efforts, like ActBlue, to buy our country back, but we have not yet translated that well into the sort of clout that industry lobbyists get from similar or smaller contributions.
We have people power, but we are only beginning to figure ways to apply that power to legislation.
We have a powerful alternative medium in the blogosphere but only token efforts to translate that into mass education on the issues.
Money will stop when those who pay the money decide that they are not getting enough for what they are paying. Only in that environment can public finance be real change to the money chase.
Maybe it’s time to get beyond the ain’t it awful stage and start exploring some practical steps to move forward. There are many (too many) information resources available to help in this.
How to acheive getting money out of politics?
Begin by limiting contributions to $1000 per donor or per giver per year.
Make all donations received completely anonymous. If you want to support critter X you give it to the campaign fund who makes the distribution in a limp sum at the time of a re election campaign. This allows you support someone whose ideas / work you believe in without it being a bribe legal or otherwise.
Limit the time and money that can be spent on a re election campaign to level the playing field. This has to be long enough to get the message out and enough money to accomplish the same.
Limit TV advertising
Make election spending proportional to the amount of registered voters in the election. Small state senators have lower spending limits than big state senators. All congress races get the same allotment.
Some ideas for starters.
How about you can’t accept or raise any campaign funds or spend for a campaign until 3 months before an election. NO EXCEPTIONS
Reducing contributions per donor is possible because there are limits now that seem to pass constitutional muster.
It’s easy to get around anonymous donations just like it’s easy to get around secret ballot if both parties want to do it. And anonymity prevents disclosure and accontability.
Time limits on campaigns might be a great way to do. Other countries have what are essentially snap campaigns. The downside is that it further advantages incumbents by not providing challengers the ability to increase name recognition.
TV adverstising is limited (believe it or not); that’s why it is one of the most expensive parts of a campaign.
I don’t understand how the proportional spending thing works outside of allocation of public campaign funds. And that would only encourage small state politicians to break lobby for increases in the limits.
Good job.
I ran across this site a few days ago- so, it’s new to me. Maybe others could check it out and evaluate.
This seems to be the organization/ site discussed at length in the articles PW linked here “for the Fair Elections Now Act, which would promote public financing and rein in the amount of private cash spent during an election season.”
http://change-congress.org/
The features of the site are not always easy to find- the below for example, which is quite informative-
Thus, if you click on the red bar at the main site (linky above) (text says “new feature- call congress”) it gets you to a list of House sponsors and non sponsors of the legislation:
http://change-congress.org/vie…..to_viewall
Here is info about the legislation:
http://change-congress.org/about/
SanderO, TarheelDem, et al.,
Instead of pulling ideas out of the air, learn about what’s actually working, and what’s actually in the Fair Elections Now Act! I’m surprised that Phoenix Woman (assuming she’s in Phoenix) didn’t mention how well the Clean Money, Fair Elections system is working in Arizona state elections, since 1998 or so.
Basics:
- Candidates choose the current pay-for-play system or “running clean”. If the latter, the candidate takes no private money and gets full public funding, so long as…
- They demonstrate popular support in their district by getting a set number of public signatures and $5 donations.
- Attacks from non-publicly funded candidates or independent expenditures against a publicly funded candidate results in matching funds for the “clean” candidate, up to a competitive cap.
- Has survived all court challenges, and is very popular with Arizonans. Used by both Democrats and Republicans.
This has resulted in (among other things):
- Better funded candidate wins much less of the time. Previously, better funded candidate almost always won.
- Drastic decrease in amount of money spent in elections, since there is no advantage to attacking a “clean” candidate (they get matching funds immediately).
- More women, minorities, and young people run and win
- Increasing voter participation and increasing constituent contact with incumbents
I refuse to respond to the Sambot, but what i would’ve said is that the Public Option is based on a NOT FOR PROFIT model. That’s what makes it efficient and BETTER for patient care. Why would a businessman like George Soros start a Non-Profit when his ultimate goal is to make money?
How come I always can find one of you chicken and the egg people?
How? You use incentives -
1) Come work for the VA for 2 years – All School Loans Paid
2) Immigrate to America with a valid Medical Doctor Degree – Green Card Issued
3) Promise to take Medicare and Public Option members and get higher payments
Those are just examples…
How come people like you always ask questions and have no ideas of your own?
Campaign Finance reform – do what Oregon does (and Minnesota used to do) – give people a tax credit of say, $500 per year for any money donated to a campaign. No bureaucrat deciding who qualifys/does not qualify for public funds – if the candidate or issue is on the ballot then donations are worth a tax credit.
This gives each and every committed voter $500 to spend on campaigns, funded by all taxpayers. It allocates funds according to grassroots support, not corporate support.
Great to see this issue given more publicity here! Is there any sense of what kind of a chance the Fair Elections Now Act has of actually passing?