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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Talking Heads: August 30, 2009</title>
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		<title>By: bayville</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967305</link>
		<dc:creator>bayville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How did Face The Nation score a sitdown with John McSame?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did Face The Nation score a sitdown with John McSame?</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967304</link>
		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More fatalities this month in Afghanistan than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/29/analysis.afghanistan.military/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;any month prior&lt;/a&gt;.  Fortunately, the war enjoys &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090824/pl_nm/us_afghanistan_usa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;overwhelming public support&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;A new Washington Post-ABC News poll showed a majority of Americans believe the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting, and just a quarter say more troops should be sent there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More fatalities this month in Afghanistan than <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/29/analysis.afghanistan.military/" rel="nofollow">any month prior</a>.  Fortunately, the war enjoys <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090824/pl_nm/us_afghanistan_usa" rel="nofollow">overwhelming public support</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>A new Washington Post-ABC News poll showed a majority of Americans believe the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting, and just a quarter say more troops should be sent there.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967300</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;details!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>details!!</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967299</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL&lt;br /&gt;
Chris Wallace is comparing the New York Times opening paragraphs in the obituaries for Ted Kennedy and Jessie Helms and whines it’s not fair and balanced.  I guess Jessie Helms should have been lionized for his “grand contributions” to justice and fairness.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL<br />
Chris Wallace is comparing the New York Times opening paragraphs in the obituaries for Ted Kennedy and Jessie Helms and whines it’s not fair and balanced.  I guess Jessie Helms should have been lionized for his “grand contributions” to justice and fairness.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967298</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unless you consider the multiple times a week that our troops are attacked in Iraq and/or Afghanistan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you consider the multiple times a week that our troops are attacked in Iraq and/or Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967295</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chris  Wallace snarks that “it’s purely coincidental that we haven’t been attacked” since we started torturing people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris  Wallace snarks that “it’s purely coincidental that we haven’t been attacked” since we started torturing people.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967294</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jUYIQzuMD55oCy3UG7v6wITLOBewD9AD4GRG0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blackwater tapped foreigners on secret CIA program&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jUYIQzuMD55oCy3UG7v6wITLOBewD9AD4GRG0" rel="nofollow">Blackwater tapped foreigners on secret CIA program</a></p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t have faith in ANY of the CIA including the work of Valerie Plame.  These are people engaged in illegal activity deception and manufacturing conscent.  ALL of them and all of them have the same paranoid world view.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t have faith in ANY of the CIA including the work of Valerie Plame.  These are people engaged in illegal activity deception and manufacturing conscent.  ALL of them and all of them have the same paranoid world view.</p>
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		<title>By: lefttown</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/30/sunday-talking-heads-august-30-2009/#comment-1967292</link>
		<dc:creator>lefttown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very true but the neocons believe that since we are the big cheese we can do whatever we want and no one can or will touch us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And in a sense this is true and what is happening. Why are the other countries not taking action against the USA for its atrocities?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some are co conspirators such as the Brits and the Israelis  Others see a chilling effect on business if they get tough with the US and that will hurt their people for example.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We don’t recognize the ICC so there is so little that other nations can do when we act bad. Seeing this has emboldened the neocons to do whatever they want and no one challenges them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a sense some people  believe that when there were successful cover ups of the JFK assassination and several others 911 was possible because it was well documented that the people can be led ANYWHERE and no one will question where they are being taken.  Government and serious people don’t lie about such things.  The truth is so hard to wrap one’s mind around they simple don’t go there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All of these concepts of mass manipulation are well understood and used constantly in marketing everything from soap to wars.  Even with knowledge that this is possible no one of power can invoke any other narrative and be taken seriously.  The emperor’s new clothes.  How do you like them?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true but the neocons believe that since we are the big cheese we can do whatever we want and no one can or will touch us.</p>
<p>And in a sense this is true and what is happening. Why are the other countries not taking action against the USA for its atrocities?</p>
<p>Some are co conspirators such as the Brits and the Israelis  Others see a chilling effect on business if they get tough with the US and that will hurt their people for example.</p>
<p>We don’t recognize the ICC so there is so little that other nations can do when we act bad. Seeing this has emboldened the neocons to do whatever they want and no one challenges them.</p>
<p>In a sense some people  believe that when there were successful cover ups of the JFK assassination and several others 911 was possible because it was well documented that the people can be led ANYWHERE and no one will question where they are being taken.  Government and serious people don’t lie about such things.  The truth is so hard to wrap one’s mind around they simple don’t go there.</p>
<p>All of these concepts of mass manipulation are well understood and used constantly in marketing everything from soap to wars.  Even with knowledge that this is possible no one of power can invoke any other narrative and be taken seriously.  The emperor’s new clothes.  How do you like them?</p>
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