I don’t think they’re really all that good at it, though, at least insofar as it’s possible to be "good" at it. They’ve gotten lots of TV time, sure, which is one of the goals of protest in the modern age. And good for them. But they don’t really come off very well on video. They come across like Grandpa Simpson, only angrier, more incoherent, and sillier. They want to be Taken Seriously as Informed Constituents petitioning for a Redress of Legitimate Grievances, which is a problem because they’re stone paranoid and proudly ignorant.
Take for instance this incident that has Greatter Wingnuttia pretending it’s some sort of Win for Their Side. Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire Congresswoman, had a townhall meeting at which a guy got thrown out because, frankly, he was being a disruptive asshole, as the video makes clear. And he was hardly the only one, as the video also makes perfectly clear. Shea-Porter is shouted down before she can complete two consecutive sentences. The guy who got thrown out was interrupting and being obnoxious. As it turns out, he’s a retired NYC cop — and as such, should really have known better, particularly when telling the officers escorting him out of the room "keep your hands off of me." Serious protesters, especially when they’re in NYC, know it’s not quite safe to say such things.
Two other interesting tidbits. One. Wingnuts are accusing Shea-Porter of hypocrisy because she is a protester herself, even having once been thrown out of a George Bush event. And what did she do? Well…
Two women were removed from a Bush appearance at Pease International Tradeport in Portsmouth, N.H., on Feb. 16. Carol Shea-Porter and Susan Mayer wore sweaters when they entered, but removed them to expose T-shirts with the message, "Turn your back on Bush."
The women reportedly caused no disruptions and sat through the entire forum. According to news reports, event staffers sat around them, apparently trying to block the news media’s view of their T-shirts, and at the end of the program they were taken out a side door by security personnel.
She is not the hypocrite here. But that’s not even the best part. Here’s a press report of the event. This bit, I think, tells you what these brave, civil, patriotic dissenters are all about:
The tone of the forum was set early when audience members began shouting over 84-year-old Germaine Duval of Manchester, who told of having a stroke while she was driving near Livingston Park.
A hospital stay left her with thousands of dollars in bills, although she has Medicare, she said. "You have to do something about the gap (in Medicare coverage)," she said, but several people began shouting she had gone over the two-minute limit set for speaking.
Which speaks for itself.



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Thers?!?!
speechless
hey thers
Yay! Another Thersday!
Just pinch-hitting for Teddy tonight.
Yes, it used to be that wingnuts were strictly opposed to public protest of any kind. Then they lost an election.
Yeah… ridiculous time limits! Just like those drive-by procedures that the insurance lobbyists and providers keep trying to ram down our throats.
I signed a petition recently written in order to prevent another such procedure for women with breast cancer, so they don’t have to go home with drains still in them and risk infections and other complications.
did anyone hear of this?
CMS may cut up to 44% of Medicare payments for cancer treatments….
according to Bay News 9 in Tampa. Here we are talking about health care reform, and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are talking about huge cuts in cancer treatment for Medicare patients.
This will affect many millions of seniors.
From BayNews9:
Doctors: Reimbursement cuts may affect cancer treatment
BAY AREA (Bay News 9) — The U.S. Department of Health is proposing a major reduction in reimbursement for cancer treatments. Recently the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services announced they’re planning on cutting reimbursement rates for radiation cancer treatment — in some cases by 44 percent.
“The radiation oncology community was shocked,” said Dr. Robert Miller with Wellspring Oncology Cancer Center. “At the time our cost have gone up higher and higher, they were going to cut the reimbursement by almost in half.”
Last year Wellspring spent more than $2 million to by a TomoTherapy machine. It targets only cancer cells while leaving healthy cells unharmed. Doctors fear with a cut in reimbursement rates many people will not be able to afford the best treatment possible.
“We are hoping that, there probably will be some cutback, but we are hoping more realistic — 5 percent, 7 percent — but not a dramatic 44 percent,” Miller said.
Late night already? But, but, what happened to the weekend?
EvilDr. Puma – what you said…well put.
A friend of mine is having her third hip replacement surgery tomorrow. She has to be out by Thursday or the room will cost her over $1,700 per day.
She lost her job and her insurance last December. I think she still has coverage under COBRA, although I don’t know how she has managed to keep up the payments. She has continued to look for work but it is hard enough without having to inform prospective employers that you require a major surgery and will need six weeks to recover.
OMG. I take it that’s because her coverage is only for x many days?
for a hip replacement.
Unbelievable. All these policies kicking people out so early assume there is competent care waiting at home to do what nurses are trained to do.
Flashback – 1972 – I’m in Mass General Hosp for a cystoscopy (these are outpatinet procedures now, but I was in overnight, full anesthesia).
Student wife then – no real health insurance; just his student’s and dependent coverage which was mainly based on using the univ. clinic.
Wouldn’t let me leave until I could pee….So there I am, pacing up and down the floor, drinking, drinking, drinking, thinking obsessively, “$90 day! $90 a day! I’ve gotta get outta here!)
Laughable now, right? But it also illustrates the incredible increase proportionally to income since – I made about $110 a week at the time.
I bet your friend doesn’t earn $1700 a week.
Unbelievable.
That’s one of the main things I want in reformed health care.
then this?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..v3pcTOWVjk
Cardiologists Crying Foul Over Obama Medicare Cuts (Update1)
Share | Email | Print | A A A
By Alex Nussbaum and Lisa Rapaport
Aug. 28 (Bloomberg) — An Obama administration plan to cut Medicare payments to heart and cancer doctors by $1.4 billion next year is generating a backlash that’s undermining the president’s health-care overhaul.
snip:
The cuts could have the unintended consequence of rationing care, especially in rural regions with a large number of Medicare patients, doctors said. In other areas, specialists may decide to pull out of Medicare, or ask patients to make up the difference with higher out-of-pocket payments, said Alfred Bove, president of the American College of Cardiology.
“A fair number of cardiologists are looking at the accounting and saying ‘we can’t afford it,’” Bove said in a telephone interview.
Some oncologists in rural areas may stop offering chemotherapy in the office, forcing patients to travel to more- distant hospitals, said Allen S. Lichter, 63, CEO of the 27,000- member American Society of Clinical Oncology in Alexandria, Virginia.
I think they just like yelling.
I just added some additional info to my comment @ 9.
Jesus H. Kee-rist, (as the spouse mentioned in my piece used to say.)
That too. The difference is that they used to yell “Why do you hate America?” Now they yell “We hate America!” It’s just so hard keeping up with the zeitgeist.
Asking about having three hips would be in poor taste, yes? OK, I hope she heals quickly and has lots of help at home.
My mother had a major spinal surgery in ‘96. She was 69 years old at the time and a type-1 diabetic. The hospital sent her home on the fourth day because that was all Medicare would cover.
Second one on that side. First was back around 2000.
The wingnuts demonstrate once again that they are a truly class act. Probably about third grade.
To a black man.
I’m sorry but the best thing that can be said about those people is that they’ve already got one foot in the GRAVE! There’s no fool like an old fool!
Audience members heatedly questioned the constitutionally of a public option and whether Nazi principles of eugenics are behind the current push for health care reform.
“This isn’t about providing health care, it’s an economic policy,” said Alan Demers, 23, of Quincy, Mass. “It’s about cutting costs. It’s about killing human beings.”
Demers, a supporter of once-jailed presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche, said Obama’s plan for a public option is “inexplicably Nazi.”
“I am offended by what you said about the President,” Shea-Porter shot back in a terse response. “I’m sorry, you must read the bill — it says nothing at all about death panels.”
I know it’s a silly question, but why is a NH reporter at a NH event interviewing and quoting a Larouche supporter from Quincy, MA at all?
I really do have to be up early manana, tho — niters, all.
Women who had C-sections being sent home before they’ve healed. Because the insurance company doesn’t want to pay for keeping them in the hospital long enough; it might impact their ability to pay their executives. (The shareholders, not so much.)
Yes. It was going to be bad no matter what, but an African-American president just seems to be too much for their delicate constitutions.
Was just at the doctor’s office the other day, and was told a local pap smear/mammography program had their funds cut 50%.
See ya.
And the brain addled wingnuts bitch about government bureaucracy and “death panels.” As Barney Frank puts it, I would like to know on what planet they spend most of their time.
g’nite thers
Actually they’re using a lower-case “c” now to save money…
Night, Thers.
Me too. Sleep well.
Please send healing vibes to my lower back y’all.
Thanks.
Night, Betsy. Pain free sleep.
Uranus.
pain free sleep wishes tex
Peaceful sleep, Betsy.
I thought Barney’s comment that he would rather have a conversation with a table was a nice touch.
Good vibes on the way, Bets. Hope you sleep well.
Rush’s reference has left Uranus forever tainted IMO.
He has the same effect on Dominican boys, I hear.
Speak for yourself, I ain’t letting those homicidal cretins anywhere near mine.
Though unfair to tables.
Probably turns them into coasters, doncha think?
A table at least requires a leg to stand on.
Sometimes four of them.
Have a sweet sleep, Betsy.
Here is a a right-wing radio host shouting at a doctor who wanted his patient with Crohn’s disease to not get cut off insurance. He said that the insurance company was pressuring him to give them a pre-existing condition excuse to dump her. The radio host, B rian Suss man on K S F O just loses it and screams at the doctor. Way to encourage reasoned debate.
(He is the host who promoted the faux town hall about health care in SF)
The argument is really if you are rich you are fine and the government health care will cost the doctor money and he can’t understand why the doctor isn’t as greedy a bastard as he is.
Now this is someone losing it.(audio link)
Now if you were one of his sponsors and I sent this clip to you would that make you want to remove your ads? Make you afraid what he might say right before your ad?
Which is more than we can say for Dick Cheney.
Bravo Spocko! Keep working to defund these jerks. Don’t listen to the people who say “boycotts don’t work/boycotts are bad.”
Exposing the assholes is EFFECTIVE, and you are doing a great job at it.
He uses his shotgun as a crutch.
i figure dickie is scared
And a whole new, terrifying reality squats between his ears.
Like cockroaches, they fear the light. Turn on that search light, baby!
I hope he’s scared. I want him to be scared. I’m just not sure yet that he has enough to be scared about.
Damned straight. Any serious criminal investigation is going to reveal his central role in this and that is going to seriously interfere with his travel plans.
I fear you are right about that.
Gee, and I thought it was a penis substitute. Imagine, if there were no guns nobody would have to worry about guys in their 60s shooting prematurely.
i want him more scared than anyone he had rendered and/or tortured.
Well, at least Cheney. I do not think we can speak for all 60 year olds on this.
What is the number of that Spanish prosecuter?
I think retired NYC police, and other assholes who dont know how to behave in a real, actual, non fake-media event town hall would quit dragging their ignorant, hostile, fat asses up to northern New England to retire.And stink up the place.
Just the idea that anyone would seriously consider prosecuting him probably is completely infuriating and maddening to him.
Up until five minutes ago, I had never heard of Brian Sussman. Talk about your Grade-AAA Dirtbag. Is he a local yokel to the SF airwaves, or is that thing he (presumably) calls a “radio show” in syndication?
Where do these assholes come from? More importantly, why don’t they go back?
French Wingnuts.
http://tinyurl.com/l47yfb
It is really crowded under those rocks out in the sewer swamp.
O/T: The next shoe?
http://online.wsj.com/article/…..ts_news_us
he who much control everything is feeling the loss of control
Is it just me or did they eject the wrong guy? Looked to me like that man was trying to point out that the protesters were organized groups bussed in from elsewhere. Wasn’t he asking someone in the front row if they were even from NH?
Or I might be an idiot.
Winding down here, splendid evenings to all.
Good Evening, Folks
Well, the fire is going in a direction that I am not in the path of. Right now. Sheesh. I’m not in the mood for evacuation again. I’m such a baby.
It reminds me of Charlie Stross’s ‘Laundry’ stories. Things that can take over your body in seconds ….
Lord. That guy needs some serious shrink help.
I say we take up a collection and encourage him to take off on a relaxing European vacation. In Spain. I’m in for $10.
Night RF.
Don’t suppose you have any rain in the forecast? I hope they can get a handle on it soon.
g’nite ratfood
Krugman has been talking about that for months now. That and the defaults on a lot of prime or less exotic home loans are both in the works. The latter from all the folks who lost their jobs.
G’night, demi. Stay safe; try to stay cool (also calm). (Oh, yeah: the Times has their map set up so you can click on the colored area – or the symbol – and get the translation. Right now they’re hoping all the stuff on Mt Wilson survives.)
More like a straight jacket and some duct tape pasted over his big fat yap.
Thanks.
Of course what I did wasn’t a boycott. It was an advertiser alert, where they decided to stop advertising because the host was tainting there brand.
We never threatened the advertisers. We pointed out to the advertisers their their own policies say that they don’t support violent rhetoric.
I wasn’t in charge of messaging for the Glenn Beck campaign although I do see that they correctly used some of the methods and messages that I developed.
Sara Robinson called it ’spockoing them”. I didn’t coin the phrase she did.
O
Night, rf.
We are having fires up here, too. Auburn just lost 30 homes and Grass Valley is on fire.
Strap in for another E-ticket ride…
I am still amazed that a station like kgo is in San Francisco.
Best wishes to all in your area too. Be safe.
No rain forecast. I heard today that They are saying they don’t expect to get a handle on this one for at least a week. Read earlier that it is seriously threatening Mt. Wilson, where all the tv and radio broadcasting antenae are. For all of Los Angeles. Yikes. That’ll shut up the crazy wingnut talkies.
Very weird, alright.
Rain? in August? Only if there’s a monsoon comes in.
Next expected measurable rain is probably after Thanksgiving. Srsly. (The main season for rain is December through March. If we’re lucky.)
I know some people a little west of Auburn. Hope they’re okay.
Thanks. Going to check it out. Again.
judas priest mary mcc… ca is ablaze north and south
I used to know someone in those places. Dang. How close is Rancho Cordova? Can you smell the smoke?
We packed all our cars up Tuesday night for the Azusa fire about 2 mis from our house. Lawn covered with ash, cats and dogs sneezing from smoke. They evacuated the folks 1 mi. up canyon but we’ve been spared – it’s almost out.
JPL was in danger this afternoon. I hope Mt. Wilson survives. If it does and any of you live around here, did you know you can rent the Mt. Wilson observatory for $600/ night? With it you get an astronomer to answer all your questions and show you the pretty stars.
Demi are you near the La Canada fire?
It is a desert after all. I would gladly send you some of our rain. We don’t usually really get much rain in August either (less than an inch for the month), but have had a bonanza this year. Had a whole summer’s worth (a whopping 3″)already this month and it is raining now. No fire season to mention at all. A couple of small fires and one medium sized one south of here that the rain has kept down and which is headed into the wilderness..
Hugs Mary, Demi, please stay safe.
We were on the freeway this afternoon and saw the smoke up in Auburn. The wind was blowing it northward. You couldn’t see the end of the smoke. Now they are saying that an old folks home is in jeopardy and they are trying to get the people out.
Here is the California gov link to the fires.
Brian Sussman is a former weatherman who is on K S F O in San Francisco. He is a pro-torture Christian. He was the host who said to a caller, “Prove to me you are not an Islamist, say Allah is a whore.’
This is from my media alert that I sent to the local SF TV stations before his faux town hall meeting. My goal was for them to have questions for him so that we could make sure he was positioned as the extremist he is and provide the media with audio sound bites that demonstrate the craziness.
=======
KSFO Town Hall Protests Pelosi on Health Care at Justin Herman Plaza
Attention TV assignment editors: (KPIX, KGO, KTVU, KRON, KNTV) for Friday Aug 14, 2009 1-5 pm
Brian Sussman of KSFO is whipping his listeners into a frenzy before attending the faux town hall at Justin Herman Plaza Friday. Supposedly the topic is about about health care reform so if you cover it, here are a few questions to ask him and his listeners about health care and what they are hearing on KSFO (just to see how many conspiracy theories they believe based on his comments and willful misinformation).
Brian Sussman will be there from 2-3 with his producer Eric Santos.
1) Is it true that Sussman believes Rahm Emanuel’s brother, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, will be in charge of a federal system for withdrawing care for those chosen for death?
2) Did Sussman really call Dr. Emanuel, Dr. Easy Kill Emanuel?
Answers? YES! (transcript link)
“Some call him Dr. Easy Kill Emanuel.“
Your dad who’s suffering from the dementia? Your mom who’s got the Alzheimer’s? Guys like Dr. Emanuel want to kill them! I guess it would be called a mercy killing back in the 30’s in Germany. This is what they want to do to our people! That Down Syndrome baby? I’ve got news for you. There will be amniocentesis when the child is in the womb and when they find out that kid’s got Down Syndrome or some other life long ailment, oh they’ll put an end to that life in no time flat. Is this what you want?”
-Brian Sussman, KSFO, Citadel Broadcasting 8-7-2009 6:20pm (audio link)
Sounds just like Bill O’Reilly calling Dr. Tiller, Dr. Killer, doesn’t it? Remember how that turned out for Dr. Tiller?
Here are the rest of the questions and audio clips.
http://www.spockosbrain.com/20…..-pelosi-on
We are fine. I do worry about the greenbelt behind us. It ain’t so green right now. In 1965 it burned and almost took the neighborhood with it. I think I might leave the sprinkler on in the backyard for a while.
HOLY MOLY – you safe?
whoops – that was for demi and mommybrain
I should head out. Have to go back to work tomorrow. Don’t have any classes, but have to go in and take care of stuff. Take care all.
g’nite dr dick
You talking to Mary?
There is nothing worse than being stuck elsewhere when there’s a fire burning in your neighborhood. I was stuck in Pasadena, about 12 miles away, and couldn’t get home. Hubby kept calling me, asking what clothes he should pull out of the closet, which art he should pack, things like that. Thank doG it’s over for us. We have many friends who live in the hills in Altadena and above JPL. If the wind picks up in our direction, the La Canada fire could come back through the canyons to our neighborhood again.
SoCal’s four seasons: Fire, mudslide, earthquake and smog.
How is it that these idiots are not being held accountable for inciting? Aren’t there some sort of laws on this? And while we’re on the subject, why doesn’t the IRS start jerking the tax-exempt statuses of the wingnut “churches”, which (IMO) step over the line on a weekly, daily, hourly basis?
Night, DD.
Thanks for that link. Have a daughter and granddaughter in Oroville and last year they couldn’t breathe clean air for weeks because of the nearby fires.
And the bonus season: Wingnuts sprinkled generously throughout the state.
jeez mommybrain
Yes, it was like that here.
And speaking of California Wingnuts. Gag…
http://rawstory.com/08/news/20…..ure-probe/
Stay safe and wear a mask if you need to.
Most of them imported. Unfortunately we’re the ones paying for them.
Well, yeah, kinda. It’s about where the fire is headed that’s got me worried. I hear which direction it’s going, but if the wind changes, we could be in trouble.
But, here’s the worst news I’ve read:
USA Today Two Los Angeles County firefighters killed in vehicle accident … – 48 minutes ago
Two Los Angeles County firefighters battling the Station fire were killed this afternoon in a vehicle crash. Officials announced the death at an emotional …
We need to figure out a way to get them gathered in one place. But who would have them? Maybe Texas – they then could leave the US and be independent. s/
Alcatraz prolly isn’t large enough.
I have a nephew who works for LA City FD. He’s on the line as we speak…
Probably not – would need at least a state or two.
The smoke is really bad, no matter where you are. No offshore flows at this time of year, everything is kind of stagnant. Take care.
texas – they wanna leave anyway
Excellent question! I’ve been laying the ground work for exactly that.
However one thing that I’ve noticed is that the right wing media can incite constantly and unless someone dies nothing happens. Oh, strike that. People DO die and nothing happens.
It turns out that the inciting rules are very very weak. The FCC doesn’t care unless it is obscenity, indecency or profanity. They count on the management to make sure the hosts don’t cross the line.
What is especially infuriating is that some people on the left, in their misunderstanding of the First Amendment, seem to think that anything goes, and that talking about killing people is the same as disagreeing with polity. This It is a misunderstanding that the right exploits.
Since I have found focusing on the financial side has a bigger impact on the media and stays away from even the people on the left who mis-understand the First Amendment here is what I did. This letter when to the head of Sussman’s network.
Will Citadel be Financial Liable for Town Hall Mobs Organized by Their Radio Hosts?
Judy Ellis, Chief Operating Officer
Citadel Broadcasting
Dear Judy:
I wanted to alert you that Brian Sussman, a radio host from your San Francisco station KSFO, has been directly telling listeners to attend a rally to protest health care reform Friday August 14th between 1-5 at Justin Herman Plaza in San Francisco.
I have a few questions for you.
* What is Citadel Broadcasting’s experience in controlling mobs of angry people filled with “righteous indignation?”
* Has your legal counsel signed off on sponsoring this protest rally?
* Has your insurance carrier issued you a special event policy for any property damage, injury or wrongful deaths that may occur?*
Read the rest here.
Sorry to hear about the firefighters. Traffic accident – sucks.
There are big, handmade THANK YOU FIREFIGHTERS signs all over the San Gabriel Valley today.
Or Alaska. Downtown Wasilla would welcome them with open hooves…
I’ll be praying for him.
i hear wasilla is pretty unhappy with sarah … that whole sports complex thingie the town is stuck paying for
Yep, but last night and all day it was really bad here. We’re above the 210, 2 streets from the forest. I wanna go back to the beach! We just got back from 3 nights camping on the coast.
3) Does Sussman regularly call Speaker Nancy Pelosi “The House Madam?”
Answer? Yes! (audio link 8-10-2009 5:28 am) (transcript link)
4) Does Sussman direct his listeners to attend town halls and shout down any discussion?
Answer? Yes! Here he is explaining how “we are going to shout them down on this.” (audio link) Saturday they will be shouting down Pete Stark!
5) Does Sussman encourage listeners who attend to be prepared to “flatten” people who disagree with them?
A. Yes!
“Our side has to get past this Mahatma Gandhi stuff here. Because this is outright, this is like what the Brownshirts did in Germany in the 20s and 30s and although I intend to be peaceful and law abiding if one of those people comes up to me and does like what you describe, I don’t care if I even have to do it alone, I’m going to flatten whoever it is“
-George in Oakland (audio link)
Good letter. Any response yet?
1) Who’s the woman in the green top? I don’t understand what she’s saying, she SEEMS disruptive.
2) The dude in the checkered shirt escorted out? HE’S askin if the others are FROM New Hampshire! A valid question given those bussed in to these events by the right wingers! A progressive reaction!
So I’m not sure what I’m ’sposed to be lookin at, or reacting at.
Thers, the clip’s too short, and causes ME these questions to you, about it all.
What am I missing? Cuz from what I see, your post is not congruent?
I’m sure yer spot on, as you always are, but I don’t see it . . . can you spell it out for me WRT the clip?
Thanks . . . I’m confused by what you say, and what the clip shows . .
I need to expire. Tomorrow morning is going to be here sooner than sooner. Later…
Peaceful expiration.
Hey, Mary. Our Governor’s map sucks. According to it, we’ve been burning for the last 12 hours. I don’t feel fried.
g’nite shotojamf
Can we do a swap where the few sane Texans get to move to one of the nicer areas of the country?
Here’s the LA county fire page.
Sounds good. We’ll trade the wingnuts who’ve moved to CA for the sane people from TX.
PJ!!!!
Are you same PJ that’s going to Strawberry Fest, that Regi picked with at GOOFY?
Wow! If so, SMALL WORLD!!!
And if it IS you, I look forward to meeting you, and pickin some, too!!
Wow!!! *G* Prog souls, in the fest and bluegrassvein! Woot!
Thanks, They never respond. And they don’t respond on purpose. They would be acknowledging they know about this in advance so that when the violence happens they can say, “We had no idea this was happening!” But I know they read them. More importantly I let San Francisco’s DA know about this in advance.
They response to the Sussman letter to the TV stations and the News papers was better. The TV stations only did a short piece, the Chronicle didn’t show up. They bitched an moaned and said, “We were successful BECAUSE the Chronicle didn’t show up!”
It actually was better for them that the Chronicle didn’t show up and the TV station’s didn’t cover them because I gave the TV stations “the other side of the story” which would have made them look really nuts. Stuff like Sussman claiming that the government is using data from the census to get people’s guns. They are gathering GPS data on people and that clearly means they will be grabbing people’s guns. :-)
I think what frustrates me is that people on our side don’t think about how to prepare the press for going to these events. You MUST give them a narrative or they will use the one provided by the other side.
I assume that includes your governator? Governor Goodhair would probably enjoy him.
To paraphrase Henny Youngman,
Take my Governor…please.
Wow! You are a wealth of links. And, that is the best map yet. It shows the path of the fire. See that dog leg, where it turns north towards Acton? We were looking at the point where it turns all afternoon, straight above where we are. So, that’s why we were so worried. If it had turned left, well, you know.
OK, I am off to read and sleep. See everyone tomorrow.
gnite gnite gnome
Crushed my left leg – CRUSHED tibia from knee to ankle – xray looked like a thousand piece puzzle. Crushed it on Sunday morning. Major surgery of metal plate and screws on Wednesday. Sent home from hospital on Friday -leg wrapped from foot to knee, non-weight bearing, on bedrest with leg in a CPM (continuous passive motion) machine. Developed cellulitis. Had 3 more surgeries, PT, x-rays once a week for a year and a half. Wheelchair, commode, bath bench, walker and forearm crutches I had to buy myself. I had Private insurance. Really GOOD private medical insurance from the major medical center I worked in as an RN for 15 years. Now you see why doctors and nurses and patients hate private insurance?
No, yer at LEAST as observant as I am . . . . and I have the same question.
I just don’t see it the same way as it was presented.
Glad I’m not alone on this.
*waves*
There’s no smoke here, Auburn and the area being burnt is is 45 miles up I-80 from me, and Mary’s place.
There’s NO worries here . . . . and no fires, and no smoke.
I was sent home in that same amt. of time when I had a bad leg/ankle break, with plate and screws.
Hugs.
Oh, whew, it’s not just me. The others around him, especially that mouthy woman, should have gone, not him.
Woke up & am looking back in.
Look at the linked news report; the guy was paranoid that there were “union” thugs there from out of state.
Also per the report he’d been “continually” disruptive. It wasn’t just this. And anyway he was interrupting and even if his question was germane, which it wasn’t, he just shouted it. And listen to the officer: “You were warned.”
He only looks better than the woman because she’s so crazy. But this was clearly an out of control situation.
The man wearing the purple shirt is likely and SIEU union member. The rightwing tend to believe that all union members are shipped in from Detroit or something because they always talk about “busloads of union goons” getting shipped in to act as thugs.
So the crusty old coot was accusing the union worker of being an out of state agitator.
-G