Comments on: Ted Kennedy’s Legacy, and the Nixon Healthcare Deal That Wasn’t

By: tosh

tosh — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:34:09 +0000

Someone needs to make sure this post gets even a little MSM play. We know the Teddy Narrative is well under way by the MSM, and no doubt people like Rahm are more than happy to play with it. It does need to get some play that Ted was 100% correct on Nixon’s motives for healthcare being a gravytrain for Big Insurance.

Rachel reads the site, and appears to be on good terms with some folks like Jane. I think she’s back from vacation next week. Perhaps either Jane or Marcy should shoot this to her.

It’s not going to compltely turn around the Narrative which has too much already invested in it. But getting other side out is always a good thing and increases the chances that it will be picked up on another MSM outlet.

John

By: DeanOR

DeanOR — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:49:53 +0000

Add another layer of misunderstanding. What Erlichman told Nixon about Kaiser’s Permanente was the opposite of the truth. It was, and is today, a non-profit. At the time, it was criticized as “socialized medicine”.

By: PaulaT

PaulaT — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:42:51 +0000

When I worked with auto insurance claims adjusters years ago, the impression I got was that there was tremendous pressure from above co deny anything that was even close to the line. Some people would not fight it even though they’d win if they did, so the company made more money than the cost of the denial letters. For those who did fight it, there was no real penalty until the fight got to the point where there were legal sanctions on the line, so how hard they fought would vary according to how close they got to that point in the process. Whether an attorney signed the letter from the insured did make a difference.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:05:46 +0000

It’s not just that the Villagers are passing along RNC-dictated lies — sorry, “talking points” — about Teddy Kennedy. It’s that the Republicans’ lies are based on projection.

For instance, take a look at Mike Huckabee’s claims as to how Teddy would have fared under the very health care reforms Teddy espoused:

The 2008 Republican presidential candidate suggested during his radio show, “The Huckabee Report,” on Thursday that, under President Obama’s health care plan, Kennedy would have been told to “go home to take pain pills and die” during his last year of life.

As I stated above, not only is this a lie, it is also — just like his charge that the Democrats were “politicizing” Kennedy’s death — a big fat case of projection. (Funny how the Republicans talking up Strom Thurmond and Ronald Reagan never got accused of “politicizing” their deaths. But I digress.)

Huckabee is the one who would tell a woman who couldn’t afford surgery to go home and take a pain pill. And in fact, by opposing any sort of meaningful reform, that’s exactly what he’s doing.

By: Elliott

Elliott — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:08:52 +0000

mebbe

By: dakine01

dakine01 — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:04:58 +0000

I would wager you are left handed.

By: tw3k

tw3k — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:04:08 +0000

heh! D34dh34d!

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:59:27 +0000

Nope its called a Theory now whether or not there are facts to back it up that would change the theory to fact.
However the motive for insurance companies to challenge poor people’s claims more than rich people’s because rich people can afford better lawyers makes sense.
If you assume the insurance companies are out to make money. They are Capitalists right?

By: BargainCountertenor

BargainCountertenor — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:54:24 +0000

They used Vaccinia all the way through the eradication program.

By: pjack

pjack — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:50:56 +0000

not after teddy threw hill under the bus