Welcome Matt Taibbi in the comments, whose latest article on health care is in the new issue of Rolling Stone
I remember being at the Ways & Means committee for markup last month. Lobbyists were paying in the range of $3500 a seat for homeless people to hold places in line for them. It was like being on the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade — everyone was yelling votes into their cell phones, texting on their blackberries furiously to legislative aids who slipped pieces of paper to members on the committee. At one point I walked in the wrong door and saw that there was, indeed, a "smoke filled back room" where members sat around and cut the real deals.
With the health care industry currently worth 17% of GDP, it was like being in boom town during the gold rush. All I could think was, "it won’t be long until Matt Taibbi gets here."
Health insurance industry stock prices soared this week after Kathleen Sebelius said that the public option could take a nap under the bus. Is it just a coincidence? Or is it just the public manifestation of the secret deals that the White House has been cutting since May 11 with AHIP, PhRMA, the device manufacturers, the hospitals, the AMA and other stakeholders, the deals we still know nothing about, while liberal interest groups sit it out in the veal pen under orders from Rahm Emanuel?
For the past 8 years we’ve been told that true progressive change was not possible because the Republicans held the keys. Now that we’ve got a Democrat in the White House who ran on a public option, 60 Democrats in the Senate, a Speaker of the House who pledged that no bill would go through without a public option, and 77% of the country in favor of having one, we’re confronted with the ugly reality that the system is too corrupt and too recalcitrant for one man or one party to change.
As Taibbi says of our failed health care system in this month’s Rolling Stone:
The cost of all of this to society, in illness and death and loss of productivity and a soaring federal deficit and plain old anxiety and anger, is incalculable — and that’s the good news. The bad news is our failed health care system won’t get fixed, because it exists entirely within the confines of yet another failed system: the political entity known as the United States of America.
He talks about the unbelievable treachery of Max Baucus, who has received $3,973,485 in campaign contributions from the health care industry since 2003. And of the way that the Blue Dogs held the health care bill hostage before the August recess — and got a concession that any public plan would not be tied to Medicare rates:
The concession would bump the price of the public option by $1800 a year for an average family of four. In one fell swoop, the public plan went from being significantly cheaper than private insurance to costing, well, "about the same as what we have now," as one Senate aide put it."
He ascribes this to Nancy Pelosi’s shortcomings, but I’d actually take issue with that — it was Hoyer, advocating for the Blue Dogs, who provide his power base and fuel his hopes for ascendency to the Speaker’s chair. Quite frankly, if it weren’t for Pelosi, Waxman and Miller’s commitment to the public plan, it would’ve been gone a long time ago. But whether that is true commitment to a public plan, or just to getting one through a first House vote for the benefit of optics that they plan to sacrifice in conference, I can’t say.
It’s a great rundown of the opaque process by which the Senate and House have operated with regard to health care, something we are only beginning to scratch the surface of. Is the power dynamic changing in favor of progressives, as Sirota says today? Nobody yet knows. I hope he follows it up with a look at that dynamic, and also the machinations that have gone on in the White House — because I strongly suspect that’s been the true driving force behind this all along.
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Welcome back, Matt. And once again, thank you for exposing what others in the MSM seems afraid to.
Matt, Welcome to the Lake.
Jane, Thank you for Hosting this Special Salon.
Hello everybody. Hi Jane.
Anyone… Bueller…
Thanks for telling the truth, Matt.
It’s rare nowadays in the media.
Welcome, Matt. Thanks for lending your voice to the health care debate, and thanks for coming back to talk about it here.
Matt, what do you think about Bacaus’s comments about Public Option?
Matt, a half-serious question: when you’re facing an apoplectic Maria Bartiromo screeching about the cost of particular cancer medications and missing the point entirely, how do you keep from laughing at the stupidity of it all?
Matt, you are the Michael Herr of your generation.
Sure you did, Jane. Sure you did.
How innocent sounding that a rabble rouser like you stumbled into the sausage making factory.
Oh, and helloooo Matt!
The one man Wall Street wrecking ball!
Matt, thank you very much for shaking things up. You write stuff that can’t be ignored, and i love seeing the MSM finally catching a clue.
Matt, I’m also interested in your take on these recent developments.
Welcome Matt. At this point, do you think Rahm is sweating at all about how the health care “debate” has played out? Or is some convenient “blame the liberals and/or others” excuse just waiting in the wings, as usual?
I cannot for the life of me understand the political calculus he’s ginned up on this morass, because it’s been a mess from the start.
Watertiger, the funny thing is that Maria and I sort of got into it off the air. One thing I can’t stand is media people who argue on camera and then try to be your buddy off the air. It got ugly about ten minutes after that.
Baucus has said that before. He’s like Jim Cooper — “as long as we can pay for it.” Then he jacks up the cost so much and hamstrings the ability to pay for is such that it’s neutered and impossible to achieve.
So, not very convincing.
That is some footage I would pay to view. *g*
Makes me wonder how Rachel Maddow kept from smacking Dick Armey after MTP!
I swear, it looked like the bathroom.
CHS, I think Rahm and the Dems aren’t surprised by anything yet. I think they planned all along to sell out the progressives if things got tight and… lo and behold, things are tight and they’re going to sell us out. The playbook has to be to brand liberals as obstructionists.
You lay it out i so succinctly that it becomes quite obvious that the media is purposely “misunderstanding” the problem. I mean, granted, the health care and pharmaceutical industries are big money advertisers for the networks, so I can see why they’d be uncomfortable with your answers.
She said something to me like, “It almost sounded like you were really mad.” To which I said I was. I added that America has great health care if you’re “rich like you.” And that’s when it got nasty.
CNBC is emerging as one of the great villains of this decade.
Matt, I thank you as well for your ongoing efforts to pull back the curtain the “serious” journalists either aren’t interested in looking behind or even seek to hold closed.
My question is whether, given the issues you’ve tackled so far that reveal the coziness between the Obama administration and the corporate culture they came in claiming to want to fight, you have any thoughts on an article detailing the various key players’ real attitudes and relationship to the “left of the left” progressive base.
Seems we can be thankful that Republicans aren’t playing along. If they were still even talking about bipartisanship, this whole thing would be a lot easier to accomplish.
EDIT: And by “this whole thing,” I mean the progressives-as-obstructionists thing.
She’s terrible; all that’s missing are the pom-poms.
I can’t wait until CNBC gets the “Full Taibbi”; It couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of people.
Gonna be a while before I can read Taibbi’s article. It’s not online yet, and I won’t have access to a printed copy for several days. I wish we could have this discussion later, after everyone has had a chance to read it.
thom hartmann wrote a pretty good letter to the president with a very nice suggestion;
Welcome Matt! Thanks for all you do – love your work.
The other funny thing about that is that on the air I said something like, “Health care in this country is good if you’re a managing director of Goldman Sachs.” A few minutes after I got off the air, they brought on Erin Burnett to rip me — and Erin Burnett is a former managing director of Goldman Sachs. It’s priceless.
Pick up the “Great Derangement” especially you, ghost of 9/11.
I must confess, I’ve not read Matt’s article, tho, I’ve read numerous of his contributions posted at Counterpunch. However, I would like to hear more about the White House rôle in anointing the Finance Committee Six to carry out a pro-insurance agenda in secrecy and catch all the flak and fallout therefrom, starting from a foregone conclusion and working backwards towards a bill as remarked upon eloquently by FDL diarist, powwow.
Not that I begrudge having a discussion now. I should have said: I wish we could have another discussion later, after everyone has had a chance to read the article.
The Democratic Congress is a bit analagous to the Army of the Potomac which Abe Lincoln had to deal with. McClellan, commanding that army, was a pro slavery Union general who generally refused to follow Lincoln and ran against Lincoln for the Presidency in 1864. The leadership of this Democratic Congress is a pro status quo DLC Clinton bunch of counter revolutionaries.
Matt –
Did you do any research in the role played by HCAN in the current debacle? How/why were the advocates of the “public option” able to get $40 million together, and why was so much “progressive” money (and effort) put into marginalizing the advocates of single payer/Medicare for All?
I liked your tie-in to ‘manufacturing consent’ at true/slant the other day.This is fight against insurance cos. and the media.
JeffCo,
My answer to that is that I was surprised at how vociferous a lot of the staffers and members were on this issue, on and off the record. I heard several of the Senators outside the Group of Six on the Finance Committee sound genuinely… almost pissed like a regular person is pissed about this stuff. I’m detecting very real frustration with the way the fix is in on this one.
Thanks again, Jane, for your exhausting coverage of and inspiration on this issue.
The outcome of this legislative sausage making over whether and, if so, how we reform health care will define what it means to live in America for more than a generation. The stakes could not be higher.
Matt–
Love your edge.
Do you think that the MSM is ignoring other areas of our society where public/private offerings mix in a way that doesn’t stifle private and corporate profit at all? I hear all of this talk about the public option being disastrous for the free market because, boo-hoo, execs won’t be allowed to make money hand over fist. The last I checked, public television hasn’t ruined cable offerings, and public transportation hasn’t taken many cars off the road (I have the traffic jams and pollution to prove it). Are these comparisions apples to oranges? Should we be getting more reporting that isn’t focused so much on whether Canada or Britian suck at delivering healthcare, but instead discusses existing models of public/private interaction on larger scales? Or am I wasting my time thinking about these things?
Wow. That is brilliant.
Pigs will need to be cleared for takeoff at airports before it would happen, but it’s still brilliant.
Yeah, I apologize for that. RS has a very tight policy about not putting things online while the mag is still on the stands.
the Full Taibbi! brilliant!
Matt I’ll put in a special pitch for you to look into the deals with stakeholders that started on May 11:
Those proposals apparently became the foundation of what the Baucus Caucus are writing into the Senate Finance Committee bill.
We know something of the PhRMA deal, a little of the hospital deal and the AMA deal, but we do know at every step that the Blue Dogs seem to be the way that the House bill is brought into compliance. But Baucus has openly admitted that the public plan was a “bargaining chip” to keep the stakeholders at the table, and the primary objective seems to have been keeping stakeholder money out of the pockets of Republicans in 2010 (which has left Boehner fuming and writing letters in rage to Billy Tauzin):
http://campaignsilo.firedoglak…..-and-rahm/
Nobody is asking about these deals. I think it’s calling to you, Matt.
You and jane are probably the only people i can think of praticing “jounalism” right now. It’s been a small comfort, to understand HOW we’re are getting screwed, even if its still entirely why. I understand “money” but thats nothing new, and they dont have to let lobbyists actually take over, to shake them down for money.Im going to buy Rolling Stone today.
I’m mystified by the coverage. I never expected it to sink this low. The only explanation I can think of is that there are numbers somewhere that show the teabagger battles get good ratings. That would make sense, but otherwise…
Thank you for joining us, Matt.
Just how well do you imagine this “fix” is going to be received by the American people?
Especially when the Political Cla$$ says, “There’s nuthin’ you can do about it, chumps.”
Matt;
Your reporting is the only reason my daughter renewed her RS sub.
Is it conceivable that the White House isn’t really anointing the Finance Committee Six to craft the final legislation? What about the seemingly plausible claim that the White House is simply recognizing the ugly truth of how the Senate operates. The President is a former Senator, so it’s reasonable to expect that he might have more of a clue about that than somebody with a different background.
If it’s really true that the Finance Committee Six have been the bottleneck all along, since before the November election, then I have a tough time not concluding that a constitutional crisis is inevitable in the United States.
Jane,
I never saw that. That makes a lot of sense, what you’re saying.
To sell off a generation of health care in order to bag industry money in 2010 is so revolting I don’t even want to think about it.
Matt – thanks for your terrific reporting. You have a unique voice.
Welcome back Matt. Thank you for your committment to cutting through the bs and writing about the truth.
I’m guessing those Senators aren’t pissed enough to go on TV and call out their compatriots or to encourage the President to do so, which IMHO imperils all their political futures. Call it a Comity of Errors.
JWoody,
No, everything I heard tells me that all of this is real — that the game really is about what happens in the Baucus committee. The other committees did the grunt work, writing up the less controversial text of the bills, and Baucus is doing the job of hashing out the important political issues. That’s real.
Sigh. From the article:
“The bad news is our failed health care system won’t get fixed, because it exists entirely within the confines of yet another failed system: the political entity known as the United States of America.”
Very good one, Jeff, a keeper for our times.
“A comity of errors.”
What, and potentially lose their great health benefits?
So, where do the pissed-off other Senators play into this dynamic? Do you get any indication they’ll stand up to the Gang of Six, either while they’re still in negotiations or after they get their deal between them?
JeffCo,
It’s true and it’s odd. A few — Sanders comes to mind — have no problem with going nuclear in public. But the others will only do so in private. I think they should be getting out there more, but they seem really to believe that they’ll be jeopardizing their chances at getting something done in conference if they do so. I think that’s short-sighted, but they know better than me, i guess.
Welcome back to Firedoglake Matt !
disagree. their flat-footedness and anemic messaging efforts reflect their getting blindsided by the depth and breadth of our opposition. no, not that it truly matters to them, I’m sure Rahm still has 110% faith in his playbook. but they were not counting on us to get in when we did or that we would sustain it
I should add, that powwow’s contribution, along with wigwam’s, didn’t provide enough evidence in support of the anointment thesis.
Matt,
Super work – Thanks. Don’t you think that you will be iced out of “respected media” – since not only is your message pulling back the curtain on the lies and disinformation about capitalism’s failure in the finance and now the health sector, but you are an outsider writing for a music magazine?
Jason,
Two Democratic Sens (and the staffer for one more) on the Finance committee seemed to be unsure of what to do. They are worried that Baucus is allowing the Repubs to ask for assurances that the bill will not be significantly changed after the markup. If that is the case, there’s no point in fighting later.
What is particularly infuriating about this is how clumsy (intentionally or not) Obama’s “negotiating” skills were. Who the hell starts off bargaining from a compromised position? Giving away the single payer wedge was the death of any real reform, AFAIC.
Yes, thugs are always surprised when their victims don’t behave like victims and many more people show up than the thugs expected.
My Senator Patty Murray is the recipient of slick tv ads paid by the Pharma “protect medical research” group. I called this morning to ask if the ads indicated a quid pro quo commitment to remove bulk price negotiations as a tool to lower drug prices. I could not get a direct answer from her staff.
about 3 weeks ago on MSNBC (not Ed, Keith or Rachel either) Sherrod Brown was good and pissed about “those phony co-ops!” and no less than Jay Rockefeller has gone all gangsta on his colleagues
kinda quiet now – don’t know whether it’s the recess or omerta has been re established
will find you clips if you like.
Sadly, I doubt the administration sees its starting position as compromised. It seems they didn’t and don’t want single payer or the public option, so their position is not compromised.
And that’s an understatement.
What Matt is an icon for is the power of the web and real democracy where people can get up on a soap box and argue a position and others can listen and decide for themselves.
When the power elite can’t control the message they go bonkers and ridicule the messenger and go for any form of take down.
You saw it with Erin Burnett and the blogs have been ridiculed forever despite the fact that some of the bloggers are professors, lawyers and well credentialed people – they are just not coming through the MSM filtering.
The presidents stated goal, stated over and over again was to drive health care costs down. So they turn the process over to industry lobbyists and their servants in the senate and the house, whos only goal is to drive prices up. It just dosent make any sense at all.Its now at the point where its probably not possible for them to pass any bill that represents the interest of the people or the country. Our goals should be focused on killing what they are trying to fob off on us as “reform”.
Nah, I’m not worried about that.
I think reporters who are worried about the consequences of being difficult are misguided. In fact the system works the other way. But… well, I’ll get into this some other time. Let’s just say that the notion that there’s a cabal against dissenting reporters I think is overblown.
All of this talk of conspiring and deal making between politicians still doesn’t get us past the simple point that most Americans (including myself) don’t understand much of the health care bill, and what it’s status actually is (is it a Bill? A proposal? Stuck in finance committee?). While I am progressive and want a public option, I would like to understand what sorts of efficiencies we can introduce to reduce costs to pay for a public option, and what if any tax codes will be changed if necessary.
While your reporting is important and crucial to removing the Washington code of conduct, the depressing part is that no one is really outlining what reforms will actually take place, just general abstract concepts. You are one reported with so much time, so bully for you, but the rest in your field are letting their profession down with a lack of reporting on the issue instead of events surrounding the issue.
Seconded!
Matt, I first discovered you when you were the only person talking sense about the Michael Jackson trial. You knew from the get-go how it was going to turn out. The TradMed’s never forgiven you.
Brilliant, Perris! Let people buy into Medicare!
holy shit, that is HILARIOUS.
matt, do you have any good dirt on baucus or these other whores that can be used for ad campaigns, attack ads, etc? As a progressive, i am so f’ing angry with these walking colostomy bags, I’d primary them myself if i could.
and since i can’t (my biography is littered with the stuff oppo-research loves), the next best thing is to contribute to their defeat. so anything that pulls down the curtain is much appreciated.
My senator barbara mikulski is getting the same kind of ad, urging us to “thank” senator mikulski. i hope she is appropriately “thanked” next election.
This has that Norquist bathtub ring of truth about it, dragon.
Solerso, I totally agree. At this point I think the best possible outcome would be the White House putting forward a bill with no public option and seeing that bill killed by the progressive opposition. That would be a big deal.
It’s ideological, Matt. Think of why MSNBC pulled Phil Donahue’s show six years ago, even though it drew the best ratings by far of any show on that network at the time.
but they missed the boat, it doesn’t matter if they didn’t want single payer, they needed to use that as their bargaining chip
General Electric did not buy NBC to clip coupons.
They bought it to control the message.
When a debate on any issue can not include all the facts and be intellectually honest it’s just garbage in and garbage out. And that is the discourse we have IN THE MEDIA and sadly within congress.
Welcome Matt!
Do you see any possibilty of change in the WH and gang of six plan now that so many of us are pushing back on the public option? Or do you think it is destined (the PO) for the chopping block no matter what?
My real question is that if they are as smart as they are supposed to be is it even believable after the GOP performance on the stimulus bill (i.e., force cuts and changes to cripple the bill then vote against it and declare victory when it fails) anyone in the WH could *really* be taken off-guard? Could any Dem who is interested in real reform really not know what the people they work with every day would do?
I understand some Senators in particular might be more disengaged from this issue than others, but the whole process smacks of poorly performed political theater in which instead of engaging the audience to be part of the production they have bused in day passers from the local state facility.
I hope this builds to a froth, and would you view Jay Rockefeller’s joining Waxman to insist on info about healthCo exec bonuses and salaries as one symptom of this?
Yes.
Brendan, one of the funniest things that I think hasn’t gotten much attention is the fact that Harry Reid is depicted in “Casino.” He’s the guy who forces Ace Rothstein to accept some relative as a slots manager. Look it up in Pileggi’s book. Reid was the Clark County Commissioner. All sorts of fun Vegas stories around HR.
Aside: Pharma ads of the usual type should suffer the fate of cigarette ads.
Refreshing to read that.
Matt, I don’t consider it a cabal, but I do see the MSM’s resistance if putting progressive on the tee vee.
Look at the balance on the Sunday am chat shows, the News Hour, and the editorial pages. Progressives are iced out and it becomes a bona fides issue. These guys are just bloggers in the pajamas not worthy of the NEWS.
Linda,
I don’t know. I think ultimately they’re going to sell out the public option, but I’m not 100% sure on that. I think they’re floating these media trial balloons to see how much they can get away with.
“Just Cynical Enough”
I’d like to drown the health insurance industry in a bathtub full of waste from elective saddle sack removing surgery.
Thanks, I think I saw that – I know I’ve heard Sherrod Brown’s gravelly voice on a couple times. But let me know when you see anyone like him being interviewed by Brian Williams on the NBC nightly news. Even then, in the interest of balance they’d be sure to find some teabagging Ohioan to accuse him of wanting to force people to use their own guns to shoot their grandmothers and unborn children before they hand them over to the firearm impound service.
you know what hasn’t been discussed?
the republicans want to beat down health care just as a feather in their cap, make obama’s first attempt at change a complete failure, do not cede to any compromise no matter what
they beleive;
“if they defeat obama on health care they defeat his presidency”
tiz true
Amazing! And he did that while invertebrate? Or was his spinelessness the result of being elected to national office?
How much impact will the Actblue fundraising for “line in the sand’ progressives have in the end? Do you think raising almost $400k in a few days will keep influencing the courageous 65 after the bill goes to conference?
Somehow, I don’t think Matt is defending the “old” profession.
First there war the oldest profession.
Then came the legal profession.
Then someone decide to ‘report’ on the goings on … and well, here we are.
Or aren’t.
;~D
Well, that’s true. If you look at who gets face time on these TV debates, that’s true.
However, the bottom line in this business is, the MSM cannot resist a really good story. That’s why guys like Sy Hersh have such great careers. If you’re a good investigative reporter (and that’s not really what I do, but whatever), you’re going to have buyers if you come up with good material.
It matters that they didn’t want single payer because that is the only smart solution…
Matt…
The ultimate question is Why Baucus? He’s not even a member of the Health Subcommittee of the Finance Committee, nor does he have any history of supporting the kind of reforms outlined by Obama during the campaign. So why would someone like Baucus get put in charge (and people like Health Subcommittee chair Rockefeller, and the entire Senate HELP committee, and all the House members who have expertise in health care reform issues, be marginalized?)
Such imagery!
You are on a roll, dragon, let ‘er rip!
:~D
we’ve seen stories deliberately with held so as not to affect an election
The net and bloggers became hard to ignore when things like MoveOn began to raise big bucks in little amounts and have a huge email list.
Many were slow to get the power of the net and to acknowledge that is is an enormous resource where smart people are doing good work and political critque.
FDL has a slew of brilliant informed people who lay out clear cases and refute the MSM and congress critters BS positions, for example.
When they saw that they might get some audience share, make a little cash from putting the clowns on the left on cable they let a few on. And it’s beginning to embarrass them because people like Rachel Maddow, Kieith O and Jane are making too much sense.
Their lies have very short legs and are not going as far these days. But they keep on coming. And the people are getting pissed off. The question is what will they do about it?
I doubt it, sadly, but I could be wrong.
This is a running theme — the problem of whether all money is equal or whether some money is worth more than other money. When Dean scored a coup by using the internet to find alternative (to corporate donors) sources of funds, they rallied against his candidacy. The Dems want money, yes, but they are committed to it being the right kind of money. If it is the wrong kind of money, forces will be marshaled against it.
I agree and have thought this from the beginning. Their ultimate goal is to see that he gets nothing he wants. Period.
what i mean is the fact that even if obama didn’t want single payer, if he really were the poker or chess player he’s given credit he would have never taken it “off the table” he would have bargained it away for “the public option”
obama is not “multi dimensional” at all negotiating anything
Spot on Perrris.
And once he’s lost once they will push harder.
From the post: health care = 17% of GDP.
365 x 6 years = 2190
$3,973,485 / 2190 days = $1,814.38 per day for Baucus, just from healthCos, since 2003
If he works 8 hrs/day, that’s about $226.80 per hour.
Or a hell of a bargain for anyone who’s part of that 17% of GDP.
Matt, I sincerely hope that you are able to follow Jane’s suggestion and write about that May 11th ‘negotiating’ session. Because it sure looks like healthCos and Pharma are giving peanuts in order to commit ‘murder by spreadsheet’.
The cynic in me wants to scold Baucus for selling himself so cheap.
Good to hear they’re worried. They should be encouraged…
yup, follow the command of rush limbaugh, make certain obama has no success
even if it’s atespecially if it’s at the country’s demiseYes, this is no longer about the Political Cla$$.
It is, now and henceforth, about the people and what THEY are going to do.
Anybody got any clues?
I had a lot of staffers ask me the same question. Sanders wondered how it all came down not only to Baucus but Enzi and Grassley, two of the most conservative Republicans in the Senate.
So maybe the next step is voting people out. If Dems see progressives voting for principled third party candidates, and that costs them seats in Congress… maybe that will get their attention?
Sy Hersh is largely unseen in the MSM. But his stature and contacts lets him be seen more than most.
He’s one of the few who has not sold out.
But where is someone like Amy Goodman who is one of the best journalists out there and I think has been on the MSM just once.
Naomi Klien and Naomi Wolfe are hardly seen either.
Naom Chomsky? Howard Zinn? Never.
Have you all seen this video of Neil Cavuto saying that it is not Obama’s moral obligation to make sure Americans have health care, but it is his moral obligation to protect the American dollar?
This is unbelievable! here is the clip.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2640
And worse than that…. the Gray lady hired the plant Judy Miller to publish propaganda and whitewashed it nicely when caught with their pants down.
That’s absolutely true.
The Democrats should have come out, guns blazing, pressing for single-payer. Had they done so, the Republicans by June would have been begging for a public option.
The fact that they didn’t do that proves that all of this was theater.
That’s quite the remarkable observation. It’s a backhanded way of saying Obama was not Dean in the area of fundraising.
Hersh is also like a million years old. He was pretty consistently visible for about forty straight years there.
If I were involved in a campaign against Baucus I would have a sale.
Save $3,973,485 on political influence.
Vote for ……..
Run it in the coupon pamphlet that is inserted in Sunday papers
My sense is that this may see some strong reactions from the public when they get screwed.
They believed that Obama was going to toss them a life line on the economy and are taking a wait and see what happens because they were told it takes time. I don’t see him doing much of anything for main street. They figured out they were lied to there.
If they now get screwed on HC which is PART of the failing wrong headed economy structure – they will act out. I think so. Some sort of “revolt” but I don’t know what it will look like.
When they have nothing left to lose – watch out.
I think that’s probably one step. The other step is probably boycotts of some kind, maybe tax strikes. There has to be some kind of drastic consequence, because this whole deal proves that simple voting within the current parameters doesn’t work.
Yep. I’m with you on that.
I think nothing is going to change until people running for office don’t have to turn to the corporate world to finance their campaigns. They’re owned by those corporations. My $25 contribution does nothing.
And, TV reporting has gotten awful with giant corporations owning the people working for them.
It costs so much to get an education now, that I’m sure many “journalists” find that the only way to make enough money to pay back their giant student loans is to work in the corporate world.
It’s all interconnected and all because of the profit motive of “businesses” that shouldn’t be “for profit” (and don’t get me started on private, for-profit prisons).
Matt, I really enjoy reading your writing. I’m a 66-year old grandmother who reads Rolling Stone mostly to have access to your writing.
Thank you for what you do. You too Jane!
You’re not helping my attitude to be any less shrill!
So aside from continuing to offer money to the Progressive Caucus, in your opinion is there anything more we can do to have any chance of changing the outcome? Even when the fix is in, are there any key players amenable to bucking the deal?
Matt, do you see any parallels between in the White House response to the Financial Crisis and the Health Care Reform?
Lobbyists, Big Money & Corporation’s influence, giving in to the Republicans…. and the hard working citizens not getting the benefits?
Matt,
Thanks for all of the information.
From what you have seen what is the hope for reform (of Health and of the political system). What is the insight – is it all power and money, thus forget it until campaign finance reform plus…soemthing else?
Is Obama honest? Is what he is saying even remotly connectedt to what he is doing?
Thank you.
Sy is just a kid – only 72. Hopefully many years left.
What’s the saying? Three meals away from a revolution?
I would hope so, but what?
Anything meaningful would have to be well organized. Some simple, clear demonstration of strength is what’s needed — the bankrupting of one particular HMO, or something.
The amount of money that’s been raised by progressives here bodes well for that sort of action, I guess.
Tax strikes are usually on the local level and fail as soon as teachers are furloughed en masse.
Don’t want to go off topic, but that’s how Bush got “elected”. A lot of us are still getting bashed for voting green.
Yeppers, SanderO.
Just to make sure that I have this right, Baucus is going to let Grassley, who doesn’t have an economic brain in his head, and who pushed the ‘death panel’ meme and then acted as if he was “only responding to a constituent question” call the shots on 17% of the GDP?!
Is the stupidity actually this craven?
Shades of Thoreau in jail.
Tax strikes are pretty tea-baggy at this point in time. Which begs the question of whether tea baggers are sane in some of their frustration with government.
Many parallels there.
In both cases the “reform” was a handshake deal negotiated with the major industry players, who dictated to the White House what they would accept.
Of course it was much worse in the financial sector, since ordinary people are not as tuned in to those issues and the WH was able to give a lot more away.
Over the course of what 2 maybe 3 generations to get them out…we will NEVER ‘vote’ our way to a sensible majority, congress simply won’t let that happen…
I think people will make the calculus that they lost their savings, they lost their home, they don’t have a credit rating and getting a new start is almost impossible, they have no chance of health care, and little chance of making it to ss which won’t support anyone anymore.
The rich are getting richer and the rest have become peasants.
We are a third world country in most ways now.
Nothing left to lose.
“GUVMINT OUTTA MY MEDICARE!”
I’m not saying I agree with the idea. I’m just saying those are the options that are left. Third-party politics, boycotts, strikes. I mean, what else is there?
I’d personally favor something that targets the health and pharma industries directly, but the problem is that these are pretty tough industries to boycott, for obvious reasons.
And I ’second’ that questions.
I think it will be like a tax revolt. People will just not pay their CC bills, their mortgage, their taxes. They will dump huge write offs on corporate america. They will stop cooperating and being lemmings indebted to the company store in a life of misery.
The buying of consumer junk will see a sharp decline.
It would need to be done surgically – excise the 5 most offensive Dems, And repeated. Then 2 years later strong progressive voting against the defeated Blue Dog in the primary, and again sitting out or voting 3rd party if the machine Blue Dog is the Dem in the general.
It’s not craven, ROTL, it is positively inspired.
The Political Cla$$ consider it absolutely brilliant.
It IS all about THEM, isn’t it?
What does their behavior suggest?
Can you say “Lobbyist” (then think really BIG money and viola! You are in the legacy cla$$, with no worries, mate).
Both times Bush was “elected” the elections were stolen. It doesn’t matter how we voted.
Wow, that really lifts ones spirits!
Welcome to the new Dark Age.
Got money?
That’s divine.
The Divine Right of Money.
We’re kind of already there, except people aren’t doing it out of principle. They’re doing it because they don’t have any money.
Health care vacations are an alternative for some people – I have a friend that gets his dental work done in Thailand. He saved enough on the procedures to pay for travel and scuba dive for 2 weeks.
India has been suggested for hip replacement and even coronary by pass.
What a terrific question this is, lukasiak.
BTW, here’s a handy flowchart from ourfuture.org explaining who’s paying to kill health care reform.
Hospitals must treat patients and then the huge bills come. People will just not pay them and it won’t matter. This will happen many times over.
The system will try to push the loss (risk) on to the good payers. It won’t play.
The system WILL crumble. It’s not wall street. this is main street.
I’m going to Brazil for dental work this winter.
People will not pay because they don’t have it and not pay because they are emboldened NOT to on principle.
I have to say at this point if the fix really holds I am in favor of putting whatever craptastic bill is produced before a Death Panel. IMHO, a half a loaf or less will simply provide cover for the Dems to claim they have now “dealth with” healthcare for another couple generations, and it will be impossible to get any reform effort moving.
Short of replacing most of our elected officials and reforming campaign finance laws.
Interesting.
Again, don’t want to go off topic, but the Democrats didn’t respond to the exodus. The D’s went off the deep end right along with the thugs regardless of Diebold’s little games.
“$3,973,485″
The purchase price of a senior US senator? By conventional wisdom, it used to be $250,000. Like all other costs associated with the healthcare industry, bribery expense is spiraling out of control.
Will you be doing lunch, afterwards?
I agree that there has to be a coordinated effort that demonstrates passion, intelligence, and serious action. A boycott of Blue Cross? It seems that economic boycotts are all that works as capitol rules in our capitalist panacea
Campaign finance reform? Are you HIGH?
we’re almost there
Insurers explore savings in overseas care
Major health firms offer doctor networks at lower rates in foreign countries
We need to figure out how to boycott the insurance companies without jeopardizing the lives of sick people. Oh wait, that is not a worry since they are jettisoned from the plan when they fall ill. A general strike for a week might perk up the overlords. They can’t hurt me much since they stripped me just about everything so far.
Now, there’s an angle worthy of parody.
The thing that’s been so stupifying to watch is how little some of the Senators actually seem to understand about the intricacies of the issues. A few are obviously connivers, but the rest seem like they were elected because they’re the most compliant to their money-obsessed overlords.
The newer Dems seem like a smarter bunch, but watching Corker and Vitter and Ensign… they make life too easy for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
The inability to understand what they’re talking about is what really rankles me — and Grassley’s wankering about ‘death panels’ was the icing on that cake.
Do you think there are even 20 Senators and 60 House members who actually understand HOW these health care reforms would work in the real world??
The thing that really irks about Grassley is his stupidity — the man doesn’t appear to know what he’s talking about.
And I see the same thing in the MSM: they know how to talk about ‘politics’, but they don’t know squat about the actual tasks involved in getting the payment to the healthCo, then to the doctor, then to the hospital, plus their quarterly earnings…. it’s as if this is so complicated that most of DC is just blathering on about things they want to sound ‘expert’ about, but in reality they’ve no f*cking clue.
Am I nuts?
Oh, I’m sure U.S. doctors will really appreciate having THEIR jobs outsourced, as well.
I would argue that a 100 billion corporation running media (as a small part of their business) does not need to be profitable in media when it means another chunk of their business takes in a few extra billion.
Take the Iraq war – why tell the truth and MAYBE get better ratings (and say credibility and 100 million dollars profit) – when you could instead get a 1 billion dollar tank contract and a 1 billion dollar plane contract for a different part of your business.
I think something like that would make sense.
Horizon Blue Cross here in New Jersey is one of the worst. It is also a model for the co-ops we’re going to get. Targeting them would be a great idea.
I interviewed a hospital who saw Horizon sneak couriers past security to try to bully emergency patients into moving to member hospitals…
Which I guess proves that Harry Reid keeps his Party power plays and deals with the President’s men carefully hidden even from incumbent Senators and their staffers. [Intentionally making it that much harder to “prove” who’s controlling the backroom, for those who are uninclined to distrust the public words of politicians, and that backroom’s dealmakers. Plausible deniability isn’t just an Executive Branch objective in life.]
Matt, I’d love more insight into the backroom relationship between Pelosi and Hoyer. Do you know if there is genuine conflict between those two, in general, and whether Pelosi has to stay on guard against Hoyer’s machinations? Or do Hoyer’s machinations actually have the secret blessing of Pelosi, as they seemed to during the long backroom negotiations on the FISA Amendments Act?
[As an aside, if there really are three Senators on the Finance Committee genuinely angry at Baucus and the corruption of committee procedure those controlling him have enabled - they can, just the three of them, as I read the committee rules, force Baucus to hold a public meeting of the Finance Committee to air this issue in public. They’d get the media’s attention (along with the private wrath of Emanuel and Reid), and they just might restore their franchise as official members of the Senate Finance Committee, and thereby reclaim actual jurisdiction over aspects of health insurance reform.]
Health care vacations?
I’ll mention that idea to a bunch of out of work folks I know.
(Probably be more of them, next week)
Sorry for the snark, but those who can leave this country, whether permanently or on a health-work vacation are a small minority. The vast majority have NO options.
Equal vulnerability?
Is that what it will take to rebuild a community of mutual interest?
Probably.
I’m late to the party. Welcome, Matt. It’s a privilege.
Yes, it would be difficult to organize a boycott of Big Med / Pharm, “for obvious reasons.” However, assuming that something – anything – can be done, how do the sane amongst us then get the MSM to actually cover such activities in any sort of reasonable manner? (I guess that’s probably a rhetorical question. Apologies.)
the Influence Peddling Prevention & Punishment Act of 2010 would be closer to what I’d like to see. That and the Comprehensive Insurance Industry Reform Act of 2010 (aka, “The Boot-on-Neck Act”) would be nice too.
Mr. Taibbi, thank you so much for all your work.
Do you think it will ever occur to any Democratic or liberal politician to call attention to the Lee Atwater / Karl Rove / Frank Luntz techniques that have been so corrosive to our country for the past 30 years? Much like the infamous “Spuds McKenzie” beer ads 20 years ago, an advertising technique can lose its effectiveness to some degree if it is dragged out into the sunlight and introduced as a meme to the “audience at home”.
I believe that, if President Obama talked about the Atwater strategies of demonization, ruthless deception, framing, buzzwords, etc. and essentially educated the nation about them (or at least forced the talking heads to discuss them by name for a news cycle or two), they would become less effective. As it stands, they are being used relentlessly and very effectively to do everything from defeat Presidential candidates (swiftboating, anyone?) to change the law (”death tax”).
Thanks again for your magnificent work.
Matt, if you’ve written an article on this topic, then I’ve missed it.
Please consider an article on this topic — AFTER you follow Jane’s suggestion on digging into the May 11th ‘negotiations’ ;-))
Sorry, I came very late. A couple of things to keep in mind is that Obama could well be setting himself up to be a one termer. 2012 could be a great year for a non-party candidate. The other thing is that the economy looks like it will hit the wall in 2011 (shortly after the 2010 elections) so a lot of this debate could become irrelevant. I am not a tinfoily sort of person. But healthcare reform and universal coverage could come about simple to avoid widespread social unrest in the face of a depression.
The problem with the media is that too many on-air people are responsible for talking outside their area of expertise.
A lot of reporters I know (and I’m one of them) won’t go on air unless they know something about the topic. But people who have regular TV jobs don’t have that luxury.
See, that would work just dandy for a Mom of small children. /s
And where does that put patient protection from malpractice?
“I interviewed a hospital who saw Horizon sneak couriers past security to try to bully emergency patients into moving to member hospitals…”
Nasty, but not surprising. As for coops? They will be crushed by the established entities in any given market. That shit is a non-starter.
do yourself a favor and read the link at Jane’s 41 above – you’ll stop banging your head on the desk :D
lights her cohiba with granny’s Part D Premium – hey, I’m a lobbyist now !
Droll, very droll.
But true. Very true.
Dare to dream!
Who could have predicted that the idea of in any way decoupling health insurance from employers would cause such a backlash from employers who use it as a means of keeping employees frightened of losing it?
I really like Oregon’s way of doing public financing of campaigns:
Any Oregonian can get a tax credit for a limited donation to a campaign.
Sue Oregonia gives $50 to Regulate and Tax Cannabis measure. When she files her state income tax she gets that $50 back as a tax credit.
No bureaucrat deciding eligibility – if there’s a candidate or measure on the ballot the contribution qualifies for a tax credit. Grass roots empowerment mixed with public funding.
Blub, you’re hot.
More, please.
The people who respond to those tactics are not going to change because it’s exposed to them. Their minds are closed.
This is not a fight to get the truth out there. The truth is out and has been rejected. It’s about political strength at this point.
Doctors didn’t mind outsourcing their medical transcription work to the lowest bidder abroad. I’ll be delighted if US docs are outsourced.
sorry, joining late. thanks for Goldman work, too!
What about what Anthony Wiener is doing with Single Payer?
Isn’t WH and Congress playing “Look How Hard I’m Trying”? Wanting to appear responsive to constituents but not meaning it and hoping to keep insurance and big Pharma happy. The fix is in. The millions still pouring out to them.
I am appalled at the apathy of many average citizens to the seriousness of what is going on with health care right now, our golden window of opportunity being squandered. As also with militarism. Yeah, media helps in denial.
And therein lies another tentacle (to borrow Matt’s ‘vampire squid’ reference):
Employees with portable health insurance? Perish the thought! /Bloated corporation
Yep.
Stupid is a permanent condition.
It can’t be fixed.
It is about whether the people will have ANY say in their future.
Period.
sorry.. couldn’t resist. The only alternative would be to rip my monitor out of its socket and hurl it across the room.. and I don’t think that my employer would appreciate that.
I was responding to “health care boycotts” as a tactic. Clearly that’s not an option for the majority, and the minority that can go to Thailand or India or Brazil probably isn’t enough $$ to show up on providers bottom lines.
Oh, and it’s small biz owners, (as Rayne has pointed out) who can’t attract some of the employees they want because they can’t compete with the health care benefits of larger companies.
I think you’ve nailed a key problem.
Succinctly.
Or, “George Will.”
Don’t forget those vacations will drastically decrease once we’re all forced to buy health care here.
If the cigarette industry has been beaten down because of the proven health consequences… why cant the insurance industry be beaten back because of it’s health consequences?? (SINGLE PAYER)
Heh, we’re down to a skimpy lunch, at this point, WT . . . .
Great stuff Matt and Pups, thanks all for the info and thoughts.
Torches and pitchforks, methinks.
I am just jumping in to say “Welcome” to you Matt. I have read and heard you speak on a lot of other sites and channels and always find it enlightening if not always uplifting. But then of course, when we get the change we can believe in, maybe everything will be more uplifting. Anyway, welcome and keep up the good work.
I don’t know about boycotts, but I do think that progressives need to start branding rethug/conservadem moves on this and all other issues as the “War on Americans” as a core 2010 and 2012 campaign theme (like previous presidents treated the War on Terror or the War on Drugs), because that’s really what this is starting to amount to. Stop the Republican War on Americans.
Folks, I’ve got to run. Jane, Bev, thanks for your help. And thanks for all the questions.
Thanks, Matt, for *all* your great reporting!
Thanks for stopping by, Matt! And keep up the brilliant work.
Thanks Matt, it’s always a treat to have you here.
Minds can lose some calcification with repeated exposure to persuasive and rational arguments.
People tend to get “true religion” once they realize how they’ve been manipulated… of course that is a two edged sword because zealotry is a bad idea for either side of an issue. Leading people to be critical thinkers is tough.
Matt, Thank you for stopping by and discussing your Health Care article in RollingStone.
Jane, Thank you for Hosting today’s Salon.
Thank you, Matt! Please come back and visit again.
Thanks Matt. You’re doing well for all of us, keep up your good work!
Got ya, wmd.
I just think the people need to present a ‘united front’, or they’ll just wear us down, one at a time.
But it works the other way, as well.
Change, real change (not “change”), happens one person at a time (those what got the brains and heart to get “it”).
And, I think we are gaining on ‘em faster than they realize.
DW
Thank you, Matt Taibbi!!!
The truth of the matter is that Obama has not spoken plainly to the people about what he means by health care reform. He speaks only gibberish. The people have a clearer understanding of what’s needed than Obama, who, as noted above, rejected it outright before the debate began (buried somewhere in the Byzantine process he helped set up, apparently).
Unfettered capitalism has been conflated with democracy. We need to puncture that balloon. Health care is just one example. Political whores are another. Perhaps we could open up all of the cans of worms at the same time since money stolen elsewhere could have gone to pay for health care or education or decent transportation or ……
We need to quit buying their shitty products and their shitty lies.
I know-preaching to the choir.
Oh, right, he’s pissed off. Toodily pip!
Truth.
Bingo.
Can always stand repeating, mary.
The truth may go out of style, from time to time, but it is always worth sharing.
Ah, the luxury of “knowing something”.
as usual, I’d like to stress that there is a difference between unfettered capitalism and unrestrained cronyism. And we’re a lot closer to the latter than the former here.
I’d say we’re close to an excess of both.
They are both very expensive.
The ‘people’ probably can’t afford either, at this point.
The health care and pharma industries are fighting for their bloated lives.
We need to acknowledge that if we do establish an efficient health care system there will be a place for that group of people to find work, I’m talking lower than the fat cats. That number of people is far smaller than the many upon many suffering because of that industry’s profiteering. But the status quo and profiteering of our “leadership” can’t fathom the awesome responsibility right now to do something the country desperately needs, as we go spiritually bankrupt as a country as well as economically. No visionary reformers or why notters except a few like Sanders and Kucinich and Feingold and Wiener.
They all took all that money … they want to razzle dazzle make us deny that reality. No one is giving it back to health care industries, are they? The fix is in. 2/3 of the country wants medicare for all, 2/3 wants the militarism to end. Media refuses to reflect this and the machinery of corrupt government and corporations steamrolls on.
I think switching away from single payer is dooming us on the left. We need passion to fight this fight. Not to have compromised on square one.
I saw they are two sides of the same coin.
Correct.
The most filthy of lucre.
But wouldn’t that mean the insurance cos and big Pharma won? (I know everyone’s gone… but I had to respond to that.)
Well said, libby.
(Good to ’see’ you)
DW
Matt, thanks for the cold splash. Now, I need a drink, and it’s not even noon here.
What Matt Taibbi was saying about the fix being in gets back to a discussion we were having last night. If we accept the fix is in, shouldn’t we be bailing on this whole process and the bad bill it will produce? Shouldn’t we be asking progressives to kill the bill and put forward a much smaller limited one that would prohibit the worst practices of the insurance, drug, and medical industries? Shouldn’t we be looking and planning ahead rather than committing ourselves completely to a line that it looks like we have been sold out upon?
But outwardly, Obama would lose.
And then all the deals would be open to renegotiation (among the big boys and girls) and the anger of the people would grow like Topsy …
A motivated electorate is bad news for all of the biggies.
‘Cuz they won’t be trusted ever again. (one hopes)
A triple Yes!!!
How about Civil Lawsuits against the Insurance Co’s. I mean they are killing off all the poor and middle classes.
Awww, Jane. I thought after meeting with Obama the health care corporations volunteered to take a big hit as their patriotic duty, with nothing in return.
DW,
So nice to see you and all you said resonated. Thanks for saying it! So sorry I was late. Now need to read this MT article.
Left some short videos about single payer on Seminal diary list. One cartoon from Fiore I think you would like, could use the laugh.
I think I am going to follow Wiener and those Mad As Hell doctors and fight for single payer, call Congresspeople each night and go for it.
I wish SICKO would be shown on pbs stations right now.
See you on campus! :)
lib
What vacations?
Up thread Matt suggested “health care boycotts” which have obvious practical problems.
I pointed out that some people can consume health care outside of the US and get a vacation as part of the deal. So there is some small potential for health care boycotts via health care vacations.
Matt said he’s doing just that for some dental work in Brazil.
Would the authoritarians have allowed Obama to win and advanced his “brand” if they did not trust he could be “handled”. Sometimes compromising is not called for. Sometimes reform is. Visionary reform. But if Obama, God Bless Him, even thinks of going for it, taking care of the working and middle class in this country, will he find himself in his pajamas on a tarmac at 5am at a foreign airport like Zelaya did, removed from office? And we are on the wrong side of history with ignoring coup in Honduras with Obama at the helm. Dole and Chiquita, et al., and friends of the Clintons are figthing for corporate rights in other countries at horrifying expense of quality of life of human beings, true democracy and justice … amorally ignored for so long now and the slippery slope is getting steeper of upper class greed and power obsession. Our press so loud about Iran’s stolen (?) election, but enabled at least two in this country. Oligarchs divide and conquer the lower groups of society and let them destroy each other. Push all the right emotional buttons. They destroyed Iraq that was a civilization and turned it into the proverbial parking lot, or even worse, turned it into Afghanistan. The messengers are their enemy but they can count on their authoritarian followers whose denial and half-awekeness enables them and the crazed zealots who get their hands dirty for them as they fight against their own interests with dirty gusto. In the thrall of the manipulators. Enthralled by power.
Maybe people who are already drinking the Kool-Aid won’t care if you expose the Atwater tactics, but there are a lot of middle-of-the-road people out there who WOULD benefit from having a little protective education about such tactics and techniques.
There are the people who gleefully utilize the techniques, and then there are the people who are the victims of those techniques. My goal is to enlighten and therefore inoculate (to some degree, at least) the victims.
Thanks again for your works of — dare I say it? — true journalism.
I think your question contains its own answer: they never wanted REAL reform of the health care industrial complex. If we regard what is unfolding as reality, the reality was to devise a plan to keep all the profit driven stakeholders on board and trumpet whatever results as “change you can believe in”.
Matt, Awesome piece. You cut to the chase and it’s screwed up. I wonder how we change the language and reframe the argument. It seems it has something to do with Freedom. Image no one staying in a job they hate just so they have health coverage. Or self-employed folks not worried about how to find and/or afford coverage. We all have preexisting conditions if we live long enough. The privateers are doing it again. I see a bailout for the insurance and drug companies that is going to make the Wall Street money grab seem demure.
But I digress, the RS piece was inspiring and incisive. Thanks.
tez
I understood, I just meant, I and other people I know, ( I guess we are really in the lower class), haven’t had a vacation in years.
maybe it is time to finally try something new, and place ‘progressive’ principles over the misplaced devotion to the fickle, useless Democratic Party.
its easy, really – if a politician sells you out on health care and Bush’s stupid, lost wars, or whatever you issue is, don’t vote for them!
if they are proposing a health insurance reform plan that causes affected industry stocks to go up 20%, then it’s simple, work to take the plan down and don’t support those who passed it.
and pwagmatists, the individual mandates will be bad news for the Donkey Party for years to come – they will be hated, and you’ll get then blame. an arcane, policy wonkified ‘Public Option’ that is defective by design will be no protection.
all the blandishments from ‘pragmatists’ about the need to root for the Least Worst have got us where we are today, with an utterly unresponsive political class, barely distinguishable between (R) and (D) factions.
hell yes.
the only reform we can trust this government with is the kind of reform that doesn’t depend on the details of their insurance industry regulation (which can be too easily gamed behind closed doors).
Thank you Matt for your excellent work this past year.
Chris Hedges has an excellent piece over at Commondreams.org, This Isn’t Reform, Its Robbery. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/24-1
Today I phoned my Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell and my Congressman Rick Larsen. No one will comment on or state a position on bulk price drug negotiations! All are receiving the “thank your..” ads on tv from big pharma. The more this is looked at, anything short of single payer is not worth fighting for. I can’t buy the new Rolling Stone yet but will look again tomorrow. I was calling about the “public option” but no more. There is a smell suggesting we are dealt a losing hand.
Zaid Jilani from ThinkProgress in here. Wonderful piece, hope I won’t be pushed to back a crap bill
And none of you heard it from me, but looking for links between the Democratic establishment and its think tank network and the big industries would be very helpful