[Welcome Wade Rathke, Hosted by Tula Connell - bev] ![]()
Many people first encountered ACORN when it became a piñata in the wingnuts’ last-ditch attempt to salvage something—anything—for their base during the 2008 elections. But since 1970, when the community organizing group was founded, the organization has accomplished a lengthy and impressive list of victories on behalf of low- and middle-income families. Among its achievements, ACORN has:
- Moved more than 2 million homes into ownership by low-income people in less than 20 years.
- Spearheaded the living wage movement that resulted in raising the hourly pay of some of the lowest-paid workers in more than 140 cities between 1996 and 2006 before going on to win statewide minimum wage increases in several states, such as Ohio, Missouri, Colorado and Arizona in the 2006 elections.
- Partnered with H&R Block to reduce predatory fees charged to low-income people who receive rapid anticipation loans, with one such fee reduction resulting in a savings of $200 million for tax filers.
The victories didn’t come easily, and as ACORN founder Wade Rathke describes in Citizen Wealth: Winning the Campaign to Save Working Families, we still have a long way to go before the nation’s wealth gap is reduced.
Long a dynamo in the organizing community, symbiotically tying his work as ACORN’s top organizer with his role as longtime New Orleans-based SEIU Local 100 president, Rathke writes his first book hoping to inspire by example and motivate readers to carry on the fight he thinks—despite all his bruises in battle—is still winnable.
Central to his thesis is the concept of citizen wealth, which he defines as going beyond income to include assets—savings, access to credit and homeownership—because:
Income alone does not guarantee economic security, nor does income by itself define wealth.
With the income from low-wage earners spent on paying the monthly bills, any unplanned expense—like health care costs—can wipe them out. So over the years, ACORN has sought to increase both income and assets like savings and homeownership.
The effort to boost homeownership, of course, while hugely successful, provided fodder for wingnut attack on the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) that ACORN spearheaded to minimize redlining by banks and open up credit to low- and middle-income families. The CRA resulted in millions of new low-income homeowners but, as Rathke notes, has become less effective as more mortgage loans originate out of mortgage lending firms untouched by legislation—like the CRA—that covers banks. Rathke writes that only 30 percent of mortgage loans today fall under the CRA.
Increasing homeownership, making work pay and stopping foreclosures and predatory lending have been central to ACORN’s efforts to create citizen wealth. But with one foot in the world of unionism, Rathke long has understood that organizing workers is essential to empowering them to move forward on their own. Yet, analyzing the challenges faced by the traditional union model, Rathke correctly concludes that:
there are alternatives and effective models for building worker organizations, if not unions, and that if we are to create citizen wealth, we need to pursue such alternatives aggressively.
Such an approach means building "mass organizations of workers"
using worker associations that are membership driven and supported by membership dues and that do not depend for their existence or success on recognition by employers, certification by the state or the narrow give-and-take of unequal bartering that passes for much of collective bargaining in modern enterprise.
Rathke calls this "majority unionism," a strategy he says he proposed, without success, to his own union. The "association" model has worked extremely well in some cases: The AFL-CIO community affiliate Working America, whose nearly 3 million members have helped turn congressional districts from red to blue after intense member education and mobilization—is a stand-out example. But Rathke is less impressed with the possibilities of neighborhood associations like Working America than with those that center at the workplace.
He cites a coalition of the AFL-CIO, SEIU and United Food and Commercial Workers that in 2005 created an association of Wal-Mart workers, with 1,000 workers joining at more than 35 stores that year, largely in the Tampa/St. Petersburg areas. Based on the ACORN model—increasing the awareness by low- and middle-income residents about the public benefits to which they are entitled—Rathke believes that
contrary to my friends and colleagues in the Wal-Mart accountability brigade (and I stand second to none of them!), it is not a public subsidy of Wal-Mart when lower-wage Wal-Mart workers get the government benefits they are entitled to. It is an investment in those workers’ path to citizen wealth.
More controversially, Rathke concludes from the high-level of interest by workers at the nation’s most union-hating corporation, that
rather than castigating Wal-Mart because a high percentage of its workers access [publicly-funded benefits like food stamps and Medicaid], we need to encourage and applaud Wal-Mart’s efforts to get its workers (associates) to apply.
There’s lots more in Rathke’s book that provides much fodder for thought, especially some of his recommendations that can easily expand the distribution of already-existing poverty-fighting programs. As Rathke notes, only 7 percent of families received all four of the supports for which they are eligible.
Lots to discuss in our talk this afternoon. Help me welcome Wade Rathke.



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Wade, Welcome to the Lake.
Tula, Thank you for Hosting today’s Book Salon.
Hi Wade, Welcome to the Lake!
Thanks Tula.
Welcome to Firedoglake – glad you could join us today!
Welcome, Wade!
Great to have you at the Lake. After all your experiences these many years at ACORN, is there any one success that really stands out for you?
Great to be on board. Gee, one thing in almost 38 years is impossible, but certainly living wages and the community reinvestment act are at the top.
Good afternoon Tula and welcome to FDL this afternoon Wade.
I have not had an opportunity to read your book but do have a question. How did you come to be a founder of ACORN? (Note: I first became aware of ACORN through MASSPIRG in the early ’80s)
Edit: and please forgive me if you answer this in your book that I have not read. :})
Good evening, Tula and welcome to the Lake, Wade.
With the passage of CRA as the book details we have probably put more than 7 million people into home ownership. With the work in passing living wage increases in cities and states literally millions of dollars in raises have been achieved by the lower income workers espeically.
Before ACORN I was head organizer of the Mass Welfare Rights Organization in 69-70. I convinced George Wiley to support me in trying to organize ACORN when he needed someone to organize in Wilbur Mills district in Arkansas to raise welfare benefits.
Delighted to have this opportunity!
Now I’m embarrassed. I didn’t know that Wal-Mart workers in my area, Tampa/St Pete, had organized. As a Wobbly I had often thought that we could make some inroads there at some point.
Could ACORN have had a stronger response to attacks on the CRA last fall?
Tula, Thanks for moderating this discussion. What’s on your mind?
Wade how have the families that have been moved into homes fared during the mortgage crisis.
We directed a joint project that began with the UFCW, AFLCIO, and SEIU to see if WalMart workers would be interested in joining an association to achieve their rights on the job and pay dues to support it. This would not be NLRB and would not focus on bargaining. The pilot was a success, but the division in labor and the lack of clarity from UFCW about how they wanted to go forward left us with something tantalizing with possibility, but with 1000 members too small to sustain indefinitely.
Good afternoon Mr. Rathke,Ms. Connell.
I would be curious as to your “take” on WalMart’s “tutorials” on the perils of voting for Obama.
Do you recall last fall when there were mandatory meetings for WalMart employees,before the Presidentail election?
Wade, when the right wing noise machine attacks ACORN as the greatest boogity boogity of the left and the driving force of all that is wrong, do you want to laugh at the absurdity or cry over the stupidity?
I left ACORN in June 2008. ACORN has faced amazing challenges around the November election. I think their voice was muted on CRA simply because they were fending off a perfect storm around voter registrations. CRA is a strawman in this economic implosion, since only 30% of the institutions were covered by the time of the crises and CRA was over 30 years old!
Mike, this is a tough question. I take the long view, even if somewhat controversial. The expansion of home ownership particularly to af/am and latino families via CRA was huge and that was even true in the subprime cases outside of CRA. Even with a 9% foreclosure rate (at the top end) more families are in houses now than we could have imagined before hand. Unfortunately the recession is wiping out decades of gains so without an upturn soon we could be back to where we were 25-30 years ago, but it’s a baby and bathwater problem, my friend.
In reading your book, it struck me that a program, the CRA, that had done such a huge amount of good, was introduced to much of the public by the vicious right, and I’ll admit I was frustrated during the entire “debate” last fall that only the bizarro lies about it were getting the headlines. (No surprise to us in the labor movement, of course, but frustrating nonetheless.)
Are there plans to try to get legislation to expand something like the CRA to these other mortgage-originating institutions?
Personally, in the privacy of my own home like I am now, most of it is so far fetched that I catch myself laughing all of the time. Just preposterous! Unfortunately, the tragedy though has been that this is a deliberate attempt to reduce the capacity of lower income and working people to have an organized voice through ACORN, unions, and other collective vehicles. So professionally I think we all understand what this is about even though some of it is ludicrous.
Wade,
Have you ever considered changing the name to remove the distraction?
The Administration proposed a new federal agency that would would expanded and consolidated consumer protection from financial institutions (both under and not under CRA) and expand coverage, Tula. Unfortunately, Congressman Frank in reporting the bill out recently did not include CRA under the agency as the administration had proposed. I wrote a blog at http://www.chieforganzier.org about this the other day. Many are trying to talk to their Congress folks now about making sure this coverage is expanded and the enforcement of CRA is consolidated.
I assume you mean ACORN changing its name. That really can’t happen. The organization after 39 years is rightly proud of its name. I also don’t think it would matter. It would be a little like Prince’s experience. Whatever they tried would be xyz formerly known as ACORN. We have to stand tall in these times.
On WalMart’s overt electoral lobbying before the election, I appreciate your bringing this back up. They made their play and since Obama’s election have hoped that only you would remember. It is interesting to see WalMart “embrace” both health care reform and immigration reform. The company is very, very smart, and will go where the wind is blowing. They got caught on the wrong side of history, but have hustled to get right!
What you are promoting with your work sounds like shoring up the very foundations of our society. Too bad there are so many fools that can’t see that it’s a benefit to us all.
Well, people are people, Elliott, and as an organizer, I guess I see it as a failure on my part when I/we are not able to move people. Somehow we need to build more capacity, better communication vehicles, and engage people more deeply at the most basic level. I always find they are with us when we start talking but sometimes there’s a lot of “testing” to get past the bull and down to the brass.
Is ACORN working with the new group started by Heather Booth, another long-time organizer we all know, to get the CRA back in the bill?
WaPo actually covered her efforts here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..03628.html
Re: Leaving ACORN in 2008. Now I know how you had time to write the book!
And as regards the abuse of CRA; It all started in ‘98.
I used to be a mortgage appraisal quality inspector for Mellon Mortgage. (We eould buy loans from other originators.)The banks did NOT geberally like to do CRA lending, and usually did the mandated minimum up until Graham-Leach-Bliely passed. Then all of the sudden we noticed a bunch of flips, with unsupported value.
Turns out they were way over valued, and lots of times with interest only payments tied to LIBOR. So what would happen? The loan holder would buy a property for $200k that was only worth $125k, then once the rates adjusted upward, were stuck with properties they couldn’t get out of.
The originator, the realtor and the flipper merely transferring money to themseles.
Once we found the pattern we turned it over to the FBI. Mellon wanted out and sold the Morgtgage division to Chase in ‘99; they didn’t want the hassle of the quality people screwing up their money flow, so our little department was termed.
CRA is a most definitely a strawman.
Heather is one of our great progressive assets and although I am not completely up to date on all of her efforts here, she is spearheading a coalition to try to move the debate where it needs to go. I’m sure that ACORN is part of that effort along with a huge list of other organizations! This is one where we all have to say — godspeed!
Kelly, thanks for your insight here — from the belly of the beast so to speak! My best example in Citizen Wealth is sitting across from the CEO of New Century and a number of his board etc, and asking with our committee how in the world they could justify a portfolio of mortgages that was over 50% “stated income.” The reply: a great computer program. Within 6 months they declared for bankruptcy, but they were a victim of the mortgage broker network they depended on — but did not supervise. We begged them to turn more folks in — they said they did, but most was to state AGs some of whom had almost no legal support or capacity. Ridiculous!
LOL! Well, yes and no. The last year has been wild. You never know what it’s going to be like after 38 years when you move to something different. But, I was still with SEIU Local 100 and also spending more time building the 7 country federation that was called ACORN International (now Community Organizations International) in Canada, Latin America, India, and Kenya. I feel like i’ve never had to work harder. The book has almost been the treat of the last 14 months!
Could you please explain maximum eligible participation
Hmmm, if it’s the program I’m thinking of, it was called “Desktop Gold.”
We called it “Desktop Greed.”
It may be said above…do you live in NO?
Looks like you have actually started reading the book – thanks! By maximum eligible participation i’m trying to turn a bit of a phrase to get people to focus on what we ALL can do with or without organizations to make sure that everyone — i’m talking about low income families — are actually receiving ALL of the benefits that they are already entitled to receive. I was shocked over the last number of years to see the levels of non-participation in the earned income tax credit program for working families, as well as food stamps and unemployment insurance. We could — and should — do more to move people on these programs to achieve more income security!
Thank you for your reply.
BTW, are you still based in the Crescent City(NOLA)?
What’s the situation with housing over there,now?
kelly, they didn’t ever tell us the name, but Desktop Greed sounds like it should have been the name even if it weren/t
I have to admit that while I think the associational model has its place, I really don’t think Wal-Mart is one of them. The examples of organizing home care workers in California, Illinois and elsewhere that you cite in the book as successful associational models becoming strong collective bargaining units/unions, came about in large part because of political action.
EG, in California, SEIU led a more than decade-long effort to pass legislation creating a legal “employer” with whom homecare workers could bargin. Until that time, they had no “employer” in the broad sense.
How do you envision starting an associational model at Wal-Mart would translate into something strong enough Wal-Mart wouldn’t kill it?
We are almost at the 4 year anniversary of katrina. population is 76% of what it was, but the real problem is still housing. especially given the collapse of credit which has left many families, particularly in the 9th Ward where, yes, I still live and where my office is, unable to finish financing their home construction and recovery. The collapse of the subprime market and the increase in FICO scores have combined to conspire to keep a lot of working families outside of home ownership here — and elsewhere — now. Keep New Orleans in your mind and give it a shout and thanks!
What’s the FICO bottom allowable score there now?
Used to be 640 for conforming loans back in the day.
I think all of us who have ever organized unions have to admit that we need another organizational model to tackle something like WalMart with 1.2 million US-based employees and over 3000 store locations. An NLRB-based model even when and if EFCA is passed is not going to organize WalMart. The UFCW now says it has 112 or so stores involved in organizing drives. Even if all were successful, and that’s not going to be the case, its 112 of 3000 or so stores. Not enough to get traction. I disagree obviously Tula and have argued this in the New Labor Forum and everywhere else. Whether its an associational model or not, there has to be a formation which is worker driven rather than driven within the regime of existing regs and laws. The workers want an organization. Just like homecare, I think we need to hunker down and give them the organization they want, stay as long as it takes (10+ years), and actually organize the majority of workers, and then worry what to call it and what it looks like.
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And Governor Jindal has thumbed his nose at Federal funding recently,if I understand correctly.
I used to live in NOLA, and when Katrina hit, I predicted that four or five years down the road , the city would still look like it happened just yesterday-in the 9th Ward,that is.
An utter disgrace and failure of city,state, and federal government.
Well, it’s back to about 650 now, but when there were subprimes in the market you could have gotten the last 30-35000 that way with a 550. Now that’s unheard of. Big projects, like the one Henry Cisnerous was doing had to move from completely sold “condos” that were affordable (89000) to rental with the change of FICO scores, and that also meant that the investors were uninterested in continue to try to build affordable ownership properties.
Which campaign in your book had the biggest surprise for you?
I’d rather not talk about Governor Jindal, because there might be young children reading all of our chats! Suffice it to say, he’s nowhere on this. A delegation of organizers (including me!) went to Kobe, Japan with help from the LA Recovery Foundation to look at the recovery from the earthquake there. It took 14 years. We may have another decade in front of us, or more, unless the new Administration finally suits up in a way the last one did not.
Not arguing against new models at all. We need them.
But we’ve seen what happens when unions organize at Wal-Mart–Wal–Mart kills the jobs in the bargaining unit, thus dissolving it, or otherwise walks away. If that can happen with legally-recognized entities, how much power can associations of workers exert?
I guess HSBC over the whole course of our experience. We fought them forever on predatory lending practices and ended up in court for years as well until all of it added up to a fair and just settlement — about 750Million+. They ended up as a good partner on lending, and also ended up helping work with us to end some of the predatory pricing of refund anticipation loans for lower income tax payers that was the milk and honey for HRBlock, Jackson-Hewitt, and Liberty. It’s always a pleasant surprise when an enemy becomes an ally! But, this is at the heart of the organizing argument so very rewarding.
During the pilot we found that we were able to win wage increases, increase hours, get people back on the job,, handle mass and individual grievances, and in fact walk, talk, and act like a union. We just didn’t have a contract. It was all “old school,” but frankly, the point is building power on the job, and if the organization can do that, whatever it’s called, that builds the base for the future.
The company poured hundreds of supervisors into the Tampa Bay area. Some of our leaders had daily one-on-ones for months after we announced the drive and the WalMart Workers Association. At the end of the day though since we were not filing for an election or demanding a contract they didn’t know how to respond and had to adapt to our turf, not us to theirs. An, as you know Tula, the NLRB regime is all theirs now!
If we had not had the division of labor between AFL and c2W, we often wonder how far we might have been able to take this. We had committees and strong membership in 35 stores in central florida within that 1st year.
Well, China has unions for WalMart employees.
Its mandatory and run by the government.
Can you imagine WalMart’s reaction if there were mandatory government sponsored union at WalMart?
WHOA!!!!
Do many Americans even realize that Chinese WalMart workers have a union,but American workers at WalMart are NOT allowed one?
yes, this has been home for me for decades now, and since Katrina, all of us need to stand tall and rebuild this great city!
That’s an interesting concept for unionists to get our minds around–strength without a contract. It is too bad we couldn’t see whether that model worked for the longer haul.
Gitchee…not only China, but mexico, argentina, brazil, and the United Kingdom, and when they were there Korea and Germany. simple facts: for walmart they are union almost everywhere OUTSIDE of North America. When countries demand that Wal-Mart can not enter their domain without respecting labor rights, then WalMart always agrees. For them, its still bizness first and ideology 2nd. Through our India FDI Watch campaign in fact over the last 4 years we have fought to block the entry of WalMart (and other big boxes) into the market until they agree to protect small shopkeepers and agree to workers rights. Thus far we are still holding the line!
BBC NEWS | Business | Wal-Mart approves unions in ChinaNov 24, 2004 … Wal-Mart is to allow its Chinese employees to join a trade union following pressure from the Chinese authorities.
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First Wal-Mart Union Begins In ChinaAug 3, 2008 … The first Wal-Mart trade union in China was formed after the company bowed to government demands for organized labor in its stores, …
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Wal-Mart Strikes Pay Deal With Chinese Union – Forbes.comJul 25, 2008 … The famously anti-union retailer won’t be much troubled by its first collective bargaining deal with the All-China Federation of Trade …
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Well, I think we have seen the longer haul and that is our generation of organizers greatest successes in organizing home health and home day care workers, as I argue in the book. This success has led SEIU, AFSCME, AFT, and CWA among others to net over a half-million new members in new jobs that were unknown in the workplace 40 years ago. This is the single most impressive growth we have had and it’s all through “majority unionism” as I call it — and using political leverage is important when you are able to build the base!
As i answered another chatperson, WalMart responds to politics and political power — look at their adjustment on immigration and health care. If we copied from what we know how to do and build a base of 100,000 members or more in WalMart, we would win over time.
Unfortunately we get weaker by the day and it makes it harder and harder for us to make the longterm investments in organizing the huge mass employers of today. Sad but true.
Andy Stern, president of SEIU, has been quoted in the Wall Street Journal, about the fact that increasingly the unions at WalMart in China are even acting more and more independently. I haven’t been there to talk to the union, so I couldn’t say, but I think this is the kind of evolution we hope is possible as workers organize successfully. Even in the US we have seen “company” unions that have become great unions. CWA is a good example!
HUGE mass employers?
Too big to fail,but too small to pay decent wages?
Answer: RICO
The living wage campaigns seemed to lift all boats. Did you have a hard time getting these started? What were the greatest barriers to moving the living wage campaigns?
They can afford to pay decent wages. No sense being the top to that spin. Furthermore it’s a competitive environment. They pay fairly, and others will also have to pay fairly. When we won living wage ordinances in places like Florida, WalMart just increased the wages. No whine or whimper. They just have to be pushed to do the right thing.
We kept hoping that a federal minimum wage increase that was indexed to inflation on an annual basis would be enacted when Bill Clinton was elected. When it became clear that Reich and the DOL had caved in on this early promise, we felt we had no choice but to go to the state and local level to fight for wage increase mandates. The biggest problem was learning how to win. Initially, as I detail in Citizen Wealth, we overpriced the willingness of the electorate to stand for wage justice against the assault of business in Houston and Denver. Once we swallowed the theory of what REAL living wage rates should be and went with what we could win — usually a dollar over the federal or within range and an automatic kicker with increases, then we were able to win lots through local and state balloting and the legislature. I’m sorry that more of this is not being done now, especially in places like California where local cities and counties have the rights to move forward. There’s a lot of legs left on living wages. Community Organizations International and ACORN Canada are mounting these campaigns now in Ottawa and outside of Vancouver, so we’re hoping this catches on everywhere.
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Take away the tax subsidies that communities GIVE them,for starters.
The three states that give the MOST to WalMart in subsidies is Illinois,Texas, and Louisiana–in THAT order.(Illinois is broke,btw.)
Second,each state go to combined tax reporting. That busts up their tax avoidance scams like REITS where they pay rent to themselves-then write it off as expense.
WalMart has been a de facto government socialized corporation for 25 years now.Socializing their overhead and risk,while privatizing their profits-on the taxpayer’s backs.
Gitchee,
What can I add. When you’re right, you’re right!
We have been organizing an effort in Merced, California with the support of the Teamsters and UFCW to stop the construction of huge distribution center which would service the bay area expansion of walmart. We (and I mean our team with WARN Research and the Labor Neighbor Research and Training Center) have been working with a local coalition to make sure that there were modifications to the project and there would NOT be subsidies. We had stopped a WalMart in Sarasota FL on this basis. Unfortunately, the city concil in Merced is coming up for election in November and is ground zero for foreclosures and unemployment and may approve the project despite the risk becasue they are afraid to not do so.
Give folks a living wage so they can spend it all at WalMart
What is the relationship between health care and citizen wealth
Ouch, Billy, but you are right and this is part of what i talk about in Citizen Wealth. WalMart is wildly popular with working families and lower income communities. The recession has been great for them because people need those everyday low prices. I think the fact that our people and WalMart overlap has to be part of rethinking our strategy.
Well, are you aware of the port down in Lazaro Cardenas,Mexico(west Pacific side) that WalMart and Hutchison Port Holdings built as PARTNERS ,specifically to bypass San Diego -and bypass American labor?
Hutchison is a Chinese owned company who is also the operator of the Panama Canal.
one of the largest reasons for bankruptcy and for foreclosures (before the meltdown) was unexpected medical bills. over and over in looking at income insecurity — which is the opposite of citizen wealth — health care is a primary reason for pushing people back below the poverty line where government programs can finally take over.
a real national health insurance program would be a huge step forward for citizen wealth!
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Wal-Mart Subsidy Watch – brought to you by Good Jobs FirstThis website brings together available information on both kinds of subsidies involved in Wal-Mart’s “double-dipping.” In the future we will add data on …
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ACORN Mexico has an office, members, and staff in Tijuana, so, yes, we have followed this very carefully. As you know, this is “proposed” 4 billion dollar port, so it has NOT been built yet. The recession has slowed down the development but as recently as several months ago the promotores in Mexico were still talking up the project and looking for subsidies. If we ever get around the bend on this recession, we need to keep an eye south of the border, because this could be the next huge fight. We have just had trouble getting anyone interested yet.
Just a thought that popped into my head.
Actually for people struggling to provide the things a family needs ,WalMart is the answer!
Even if I don’t exactly agree with they way they treat their workers.
good jobs first does probably the best job of anyone out there on following corporate subsidies
I must close, but may I say, it has been a privilege?
In my opinion, the single most important political statement we can make is WHERE and with WHOM we choose to spend our shopping dollar.
Our sense of community SHOULD be larger than the size of a WalMart shopping cart.
i hear you, billy. i was quoted in the Nation a couple of years ago, saying that I, “…hated WalMart, but LOVED the store!” or words to that effect. I lived in Arkansas for 7 1/2 years after founding ACORN before relocating the national office to New Orleans, so I’ve spent many a dollar making that face smile. they are not wrong to give working families and good deal and working families would be stupid not to get the best price, we just have to LEVERAGE our base — those same working families — differently, and we can win once we do that.
Adding a note to that, the push to boycott Whole Foods — which is a rabid anti-union, anti-health care, anti-their-own-customer even company, is worth a note!
I just stumbled on this book. It seems like the right wing have identified it as a real threat to their agenda. Some of them recommend it to their networks to read but I think that it is more important for progressives and activists to get this book out there and learn how to do these critical campaigns. Your thoughts here please.
Whole Foods also “teamed” with CostCo and Starbucks with one of the so-called compromises on EFCA that would totally make it worthless.
Wade thanks for stopping by .
Your book sounds like an interesting read.
Is it available at WalMart ?
YoMo, whoever you are, I think I’m in love!
So, one of my current embarrassments thanks to Fox News is that Amazon is offering a 3 for 1 special if you buy Citizen Wealth and Glenn Beck and Michelle Maklin at the same time. Yegads! Only in the last couple of weeks has Alinksy’s Reville for Radicals gotten to be one of the top half-dozen books bought by the same people who are buying Citizen Wealth. The right wing is clear that these are dangerous concepts and that i’m a dangerous dude for pushing them, but whether the agenda for progressives is so busy that we are not reading, we need to keep organizing and raise the dialogue engaged by Citizen Wealth (and other works) so that we are pushing the envelope in the correct direction.
So to paraphrase Abby Hoffman — BUY THIS BOOK!
that one may have slipped by me, so thanks for bringing it forward. COSTCO is often presented as the WalMart alternative, and certainly that do pay higher wages, but other than retaining the Teamster contracts from the Price Club purchase, I think they have been virtually as resistant to new organizing as any of the rest of these outfits. It’s a pleasure to stumble into a Starbucks in Vancouver organized by the Canadian Auto Workers, but in the main, these are all good examples of fowls of a feather.
It’s a sure sign you’re a success when Fox & CO are worried enough about your message to be reading you. Congrats, Wade!
Not a chance this side of hell and high water. But, it’s easy to get everywhere else. Give it a look, billy, and spread the good word!
Can you explain why wealth or income disparity increases violence, as per the NYT article: • Among both American states and Canadian provinces, homicide rates closely track income inequality, even after the absolute level of income itself is carefully controlled for. That homicide is not driven by poverty alone is demonstrated by Canada, where, because of aggressive redistributive policies, the poorest provinces have the lowest inequalities and also the lowest number of violent deaths.
WaPo0 from 3/22/09: Executives Detail Labor Bill Compromise
Good luck….and good luck in New Orleans….housing, schools….let it come back better.
i think they are attacking me virtually for breathing, so I’m not sure how much of their anger i’m really EARNING right now. When i came back from working with organizers in Sicily recently and someone sent me a YouTube where this guy Glenn Beck was stalking me on my travels around the world, it was a little bizarre, but…these are the times and power concedes nothing without struggle, so we need to do everything we can now!
As we come to the end of this interesting Book Salon,
Wade, Thank you for stopping by the Lake and spending the afternoon with us discussing your new book and ACORN.
Tula, Thank you very much for Hosting this Book Salon.
Everyone, if you have not bought Wade’s book yet, here is a link.
Thanks all.
Thanks to everyone on the lake. This was fun and I appreciate the feedback!
Thanks again for stopping by
( I just couldn’t resist the WalMart question)