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	<title>Comments on: Come Saturday Morning:  Things Many Think Are True (But Aren&#8217;t)</title>
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		<title>By: AngelsAwake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1962145</link>
		<dc:creator>AngelsAwake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is an awesome post. We should do more like this- just labeling conservative myths and shooting them in the head. I particularly like the one about Wild West gun control; I’ve done a lot of research on the Wild West, and discovering the prevalence of “Get rid of the damn gun” was a shocker for me when I learned it. Now I use it to annoy less knowledgeable friends who bring up the Wild West in conversations about violence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an awesome post. We should do more like this- just labeling conservative myths and shooting them in the head. I particularly like the one about Wild West gun control; I’ve done a lot of research on the Wild West, and discovering the prevalence of “Get rid of the damn gun” was a shocker for me when I learned it. Now I use it to annoy less knowledgeable friends who bring up the Wild West in conversations about violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1962012</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’ll be on Fox News Sunday tomorrow morning&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’ll be on Fox News Sunday tomorrow morning</p>
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		<title>By: dejadejavu</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1962009</link>
		<dc:creator>dejadejavu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Somalia is the model for Republicans.  Guns for everyone, strong religious values, no heavy tax burdens and no socialized health care.  It’s a wonder that Republicans vacation elsewhere, given their commitment to everything that is Somalia.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somalia is the model for Republicans.  Guns for everyone, strong religious values, no heavy tax burdens and no socialized health care.  It’s a wonder that Republicans vacation elsewhere, given their commitment to everything that is Somalia.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1962008</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not even close, Tinman — as you would know if you’d read any of the links.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/research/200901080005&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FDR’s one big mistake was in fact forsaking the New Deal and jumping back into his fiscally-conservative comfort zone in 1937&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, cutting back on social spending and endangering the fragile recovery to the point where Republicans made big gains in the 1938 elections.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even close, Tinman — as you would know if you’d read any of the links.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://mediamatters.org/research/200901080005" rel="nofollow">FDR’s one big mistake was in fact forsaking the New Deal and jumping back into his fiscally-conservative comfort zone in 1937</a></strong>, cutting back on social spending and endangering the fragile recovery to the point where Republicans made big gains in the 1938 elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jesus, no wonder the suicide rate is sky-high. That is horrible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus, no wonder the suicide rate is sky-high. That is horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: tinman1967</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinman1967</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and in response to 57 as well…..&lt;br /&gt;
Very well said!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and in response to 57 as well…..<br />
Very well said!</p>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1961999</link>
		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is your opinion. But it is only your opinion. Your rights do not include forcing me to go along with your views. On the other hand, the majority of states now have laws that allow concealed carry of handguns, so that means that the majority of people believe that it is OK. Your view is the minority view. Laws are made by a society that the majority will obey. There is no sense in making laws that no one will obey. Example would be the nationwide 55mph speed limit. Also prohibition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is your opinion. But it is only your opinion. Your rights do not include forcing me to go along with your views. On the other hand, the majority of states now have laws that allow concealed carry of handguns, so that means that the majority of people believe that it is OK. Your view is the minority view. Laws are made by a society that the majority will obey. There is no sense in making laws that no one will obey. Example would be the nationwide 55mph speed limit. Also prohibition.</p>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1961996</link>
		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Words change their meaning over time. Perhaps what we think the words mean is not what the words ment back a couple of hundred years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
 Common words in everyday usage have had their meanings change just over the last 30 years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words change their meaning over time. Perhaps what we think the words mean is not what the words ment back a couple of hundred years ago.<br />
 Common words in everyday usage have had their meanings change just over the last 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
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		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It happens. So are you going to take away everyone rights because of a few accidents? If that is the way you feel-and I am not saying that you do-then we sould outlaw cars bacause we kill over 30K people a year with them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens. So are you going to take away everyone rights because of a few accidents? If that is the way you feel-and I am not saying that you do-then we sould outlaw cars bacause we kill over 30K people a year with them.</p>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/come-saturday-morning-things-many-think-are-true-but-arent/#comment-1961993</link>
		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All well and good. Except for a few things. Like the fact that the last time I looked there were 36 states that allowed CCW and we have yet to get any reports of the “blood in the streets” that we were warned would happen if CCW laws were enacted.&lt;br /&gt;
 A fact. The police are not there to protect you as an individual. If you call the police and tell them you have been threatened, they will do nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
 A fact. PPOs mean less than the paper they are written on. Women have calld the police about a PPO being ignored by the person it was written about. I know of 2 cases-in 2 different states-where the police were told that a PPO vwas being violated. The police refused to even send someone to even talk to the one who called. In both cases the person was dead within 6 hours. The police are not there to protect you. Their purpose is to protect society and to arrest someone after a crime has been committed. Lets say that someone breaks into your house and you call 911. Fine. How long before the cops show up? 5 min? 10 min? Meanwhile, what do you, the unarmed sheep do? Face it. The crooks are wolves, the police are the sheep dogs and the vast majority of people are sheep.&lt;br /&gt;
 The country is getting more violent, it is more violent than it was 40 years ago. The whys can be debated endlessly but what do you do when confronted by someone in your house? It happend to me back in 1973 in Ca. I woke from a very sound sleep to find someone leaning over me with a gun in his hand. Very bad. I rolled out of bed, picked up my shotgun that was next to my bed,already loaded and cocked, and shot him. I have rarely been as scared as I was that night. So what have I done since then? I keep a loaded shotgun next to my bed, my wife keeps a loaded handgun on her bedside table as the shotgun is to big for her. I have a house alarm with a nation wide alarm company. What I do not do is depend on the police to protect me. Because they can’t. It is not their job. I have had friends who went thru attempted carjackings, who shot the thief before they could be killed. I just had a friend, who owned a store, get killed by a robber. He did as he was told-the security film showed that he did everything the robber told him to do-then he was shot and killed anyway. He did not believe in guns. Another friend keeps a gun in his cash register, the last time someone stuck a gun in his face and said give me your money, he pulled out his gun and shot him. I have a CCW permit in every state that I spend time in. I carry a gun all the time,as does my wife. We also spend several hours a month at the range, practicing. In these times, you are either a sheep, expecting someone else to protect you, either because you do not believe in guns or because of other convictions or you are a wolf. Protecting yourself with a gun both at home, in your car or on the street.&lt;br /&gt;
 You do not ever see any stories in the MSM about armed citizens who protect themselves or someone else. Even backing up the police or coming to the rescue of a police officer. It happens but only  local media ever report on it. OTOH, if, god forbid, a CCW holder ever happend to go crazy and start shooting up the place, it would get 24/7 coverage everywhere. Except that hasn’t happend, has it?&lt;br /&gt;
 The US is a very violent country. The entire world knows this for a fact. But there are other countries where almost everyone has an automatic weapon and there is less crime than there is here. I wonder why.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All well and good. Except for a few things. Like the fact that the last time I looked there were 36 states that allowed CCW and we have yet to get any reports of the “blood in the streets” that we were warned would happen if CCW laws were enacted.<br />
 A fact. The police are not there to protect you as an individual. If you call the police and tell them you have been threatened, they will do nothing.<br />
 A fact. PPOs mean less than the paper they are written on. Women have calld the police about a PPO being ignored by the person it was written about. I know of 2 cases-in 2 different states-where the police were told that a PPO vwas being violated. The police refused to even send someone to even talk to the one who called. In both cases the person was dead within 6 hours. The police are not there to protect you. Their purpose is to protect society and to arrest someone after a crime has been committed. Lets say that someone breaks into your house and you call 911. Fine. How long before the cops show up? 5 min? 10 min? Meanwhile, what do you, the unarmed sheep do? Face it. The crooks are wolves, the police are the sheep dogs and the vast majority of people are sheep.<br />
 The country is getting more violent, it is more violent than it was 40 years ago. The whys can be debated endlessly but what do you do when confronted by someone in your house? It happend to me back in 1973 in Ca. I woke from a very sound sleep to find someone leaning over me with a gun in his hand. Very bad. I rolled out of bed, picked up my shotgun that was next to my bed,already loaded and cocked, and shot him. I have rarely been as scared as I was that night. So what have I done since then? I keep a loaded shotgun next to my bed, my wife keeps a loaded handgun on her bedside table as the shotgun is to big for her. I have a house alarm with a nation wide alarm company. What I do not do is depend on the police to protect me. Because they can’t. It is not their job. I have had friends who went thru attempted carjackings, who shot the thief before they could be killed. I just had a friend, who owned a store, get killed by a robber. He did as he was told-the security film showed that he did everything the robber told him to do-then he was shot and killed anyway. He did not believe in guns. Another friend keeps a gun in his cash register, the last time someone stuck a gun in his face and said give me your money, he pulled out his gun and shot him. I have a CCW permit in every state that I spend time in. I carry a gun all the time,as does my wife. We also spend several hours a month at the range, practicing. In these times, you are either a sheep, expecting someone else to protect you, either because you do not believe in guns or because of other convictions or you are a wolf. Protecting yourself with a gun both at home, in your car or on the street.<br />
 You do not ever see any stories in the MSM about armed citizens who protect themselves or someone else. Even backing up the police or coming to the rescue of a police officer. It happens but only  local media ever report on it. OTOH, if, god forbid, a CCW holder ever happend to go crazy and start shooting up the place, it would get 24/7 coverage everywhere. Except that hasn’t happend, has it?<br />
 The US is a very violent country. The entire world knows this for a fact. But there are other countries where almost everyone has an automatic weapon and there is less crime than there is here. I wonder why.</p>
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