Comments on: All You Need to Know in One, Simple Formula: ObamaCare – The Public Option = RomneyCare http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:18:47 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: viejolex1 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962803 viejolex1 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:11:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962803 <p>Stunning conclusion, Unionave, do you have a linky for the source?</p> Stunning conclusion, Unionave, do you have a linky for the source?

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962800 selise Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:44:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962800 <p>it wasn’t just romney’s work - i thought it was a compromise, driven mostly by dems and some health care advocates. in fact, i supported lobby efforts for it based on what i heard from dems and progressive groups.</p> <p>the people who warned it wouldn’t work are the same people who are warning now that obamacare won’t work (even with a po) — <a href="http://pnhp.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">pnhp</a> for example.</p> <p>but i, like most dems and progressives, did support the 2006 MA reform, thinking that at least it would be an experiment and an incremental improvement.</p> <p>the lesson i learned is to pay more attention to the people who know what they were talking about (see <a href="http://pnhp.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">pnhp</a>) and to watch out for dem industry bailouts in the names of healthcare reform.</p> it wasn’t just romney’s work – i thought it was a compromise, driven mostly by dems and some health care advocates. in fact, i supported lobby efforts for it based on what i heard from dems and progressive groups.

the people who warned it wouldn’t work are the same people who are warning now that obamacare won’t work (even with a po) — pnhp for example.

but i, like most dems and progressives, did support the 2006 MA reform, thinking that at least it would be an experiment and an incremental improvement.

the lesson i learned is to pay more attention to the people who know what they were talking about (see pnhp) and to watch out for dem industry bailouts in the names of healthcare reform.

]]> By: Kathryn in MA http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962799 Kathryn in MA Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:25:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962799 <p>This is Romney-Care - he was governor of MA and this is his work.</p> This is Romney-Care – he was governor of MA and this is his work.

]]> By: unionave http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962199 unionave Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:30:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962199 <p>There 40 million (40,000,000) government workers in the U.S.A. with health care paid for by the U.S. tax payers to private insurers . If 1/2 of them were put in the Medicare program tax payers would save billions . Enough to pay for any public option .</p> There 40 million (40,000,000) government workers in the U.S.A. with health care paid for by the U.S. tax payers to private insurers . If 1/2 of them were put in the Medicare program tax payers would save billions . Enough to pay for any public option .

]]> By: unionave http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962198 unionave Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:20:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962198 <p>Is it possible that the City of San Francisco has a successful Public Option program ? If it has couldn’t the pro-Public Option gang use it to bound on the anti-Public Option gang ? If it has why is everyone so quiet about it ?</p> Is it possible that the City of San Francisco has a successful Public Option program ? If it has couldn’t the pro-Public Option gang use it to bound on the anti-Public Option gang ? If it has why is everyone so quiet about it ?

]]> By: OldFatGuy http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962197 OldFatGuy Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:16:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962197 <p>I wonder just how popular a mandate without a public option would be to the Republicans if it included subsidies for up to 300% of FPL, AND the costs of the subsidies had to be 100% financed with a surtax on those earning above $200,000 a year.</p> I wonder just how popular a mandate without a public option would be to the Republicans if it included subsidies for up to 300% of FPL, AND the costs of the subsidies had to be 100% financed with a surtax on those earning above $200,000 a year.

]]> By: leoklein http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962196 leoklein Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:08:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962196 <p>So take your average guy making $32k per year in Mass. What kind of a bite will health insurance take out of him? Or is it worth just paying the $1080/year penalty?</p> So take your average guy making $32k per year in Mass. What kind of a bite will health insurance take out of him? Or is it worth just paying the $1080/year penalty?

]]> By: SomeGuy http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962195 SomeGuy Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:58:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962195 <p>I know a woman who has insurance but choose to fly down to Costa Rica for surgery that was done by a US trained MD. She claims she got better care. It was not govenment subsidized or covered by insurance. Will this bill keep people like her from outsourcing healthcare? I want to be convinced that something is better than nothing but I know that is not always the case.</p> I know a woman who has insurance but choose to fly down to Costa Rica for surgery that was done by a US trained MD. She claims she got better care. It was not govenment subsidized or covered by insurance. Will this bill keep people like her from outsourcing healthcare? I want to be convinced that something is better than nothing but I know that is not always the case.

]]> By: billybugs http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962192 billybugs Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:29:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962192 <p>I am one of those unfortunates, who live in Mass .and don’t have insurance.<br /> To hell with Romneycare costs haven’t gone down and you have to be dirt poor to get subsidized .It’s all just a give away to the insurance industry.<br /> It also doesn’t help that many of the large insurers are based in the state.<br /> No public option=big steaming pile of pooh!!!</p> I am one of those unfortunates, who live in Mass .and don’t have insurance.
To hell with Romneycare costs haven’t gone down and you have to be dirt poor to get subsidized .It’s all just a give away to the insurance industry.
It also doesn’t help that many of the large insurers are based in the state.
No public option=big steaming pile of pooh!!!

]]> By: mwfolsom http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962191 mwfolsom Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:22:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/22/all-you-need-to-know-in-one-simple-formula-obamacare-the-public-option-romneycare/#comment-1962191 <p>Hasn’t that already failed?</p> Hasn’t that already failed?

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