Comments on: Late Night: Guns Don’t Kill People – Tee Shirts Do!

By: ArlaMiner

ArlaMiner — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:30:04 +0000

It is my contention that these gun-totin’ rabble-rousers aren’t there to discuss health care – or even to intimidate folks.

I think they’re there in serious hope that the police or Secret Service will either arrest them or confiscate their weapon.

The first time this happens – the very first time that some law-enforcement official does arrest one of these folks – or confiscates their weapon – the “fix” will be in for the Anti-Obama forces to claim “See? We told you!! Obama wants to take away your guns!!”

By: Gibbonz

Gibbonz — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:29:40 +0000

Please excuse the typos – I’m an old fart

By: Gibbonz

Gibbonz — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:27:30 +0000

Only in America – and other third-world, non-healthcare nations. People in countries that have universal healthcare and other people-mandated government protections that would be regarded by too many Americans as “socialist” feel no need to be armed and are, in fact, strongly opposed to suc notions, Indeed, in my mainly white, totally democratic country, police are essentially unarmed, but we sure ain’t scared – and we still have the right to buy, and register, appropriate firearms for mandated purposes (esssentially hunting). But, if you dare to exposedly even carry a firearm anywhere, anytime in public, your ass is behind bars in a blink – no excuses. The rest of the world laughs at your pathetic, puerile clinging to ancient Wild West mores and inability to enact legislation to support the right to health/life of your fellow citizens, which I would have thought was the whole point of the American-reinvented philosophy of Christianity/democracy. Obviously not…

Clinging to guns and religion> Exactly right Mr. O.

By: TarheelDem

TarheelDem — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:03:27 +0000

So far these incidents have happened in legal “open carry” states. So what happens when someone with a legal permit shows up with a gun and a “Health Reform Now” tee shirt? Just exercising our Second Amendment rights too.

The issue here is not the threat. The threat is from the guns you do not see and that aren’t necessarily permitted. The issue is whether the Second Amendment protects the right of progressives to bear arms too, or just the right of rightwing gun nuts.

By: Legion303

Legion303 — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:17:55 +0000

I believe in the second amendment. 90% of the people I hang out with do too. We’ve been discussing this over the past couple of days on a private mailing list, and the vast majority of my “gun nut” friends are in agreement that toting guns to these speeches and meetings is stupid. Why? Because the people doing it are unhinged dipshits who are more likely to force even further restrictions on carry laws.

This will backfire on the Glenn Beck crowd just as surely as the well-financed “grassroots” townhall protests did.

By: katymine

katymine — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:42:21 +0000

There times when I think there is group deftness …

1. Ernie notified the Phoenix police prior to his actions
2. His website clearly states that he is trying to get legislation for a 2 mile parameter around the president so this kind of violence DOES NOT happen.

If the secret service was not notified then it is the phoenix police’s responsible.

Janet the Gov with DHS was notified and did not want to do anything. She knows Ernie and knows that he is harmless.

He is wacky and weird but he would not hurt the President. He was mad that people with guns would get that close and how much the birthers were disrespecting the office.

I got this information first and second hand, Even elmore knows him if you don’t trust my judgement.

By: Larue

Larue — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:37:59 +0000

Better Canada than GeebuzLand? No?

By: openhope

openhope — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:35:27 +0000

I think you’re on to something. Though I would add another MO.. Gun as Father Figure.
We got into guns as a training course for my kids. Guns 101. Learn what they are and can do because they might come into your life. The men teaching gun safety were incredible.
We had so much fun during the educational program sponsored by the NRA and the cops that we went out and bought some!!! I had Impeach Bush and anti-war stickers all over my van then, the Early Years of Iraq. We still all found common ground through guns. And through supporting our troops on a community level. Not slogans, real help these young wives through potlucks, fundraisers and gun skills.
-I’m a westerner, so guns are tools.-

By: Larue

Larue — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:33:48 +0000

Ringo. Er, Bingo.

By: Larue

Larue — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:29:25 +0000

Yep, but when will it happen?