Comments on: Memo to Jay Cost: Obama Won a Larger Percentage of the Popular Vote in 2008 than Reagan in 1980 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:28:18 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: jlib http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958636 jlib Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:11:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958636 <p>Most Americans do not feel the system is broken? What r u smoking?<br /> In 2000 I was paying $13 per week for someone to tell me where I could go and what MD I could see and 4 yrs later that cost almost tripled and the care wasn’t any better. A family plan for most people I know cost around $100 or more PER WEEK! And that’s just in case you get sick and then you still have to pray that you’re truly covered. That may be fine for you partner but I’m sick of getting screwed by Big Ins whose CEO’s go home with an average of $11.9 mil per yr. They love people like you.</p> Most Americans do not feel the system is broken? What r u smoking?
In 2000 I was paying $13 per week for someone to tell me where I could go and what MD I could see and 4 yrs later that cost almost tripled and the care wasn’t any better. A family plan for most people I know cost around $100 or more PER WEEK! And that’s just in case you get sick and then you still have to pray that you’re truly covered. That may be fine for you partner but I’m sick of getting screwed by Big Ins whose CEO’s go home with an average of $11.9 mil per yr. They love people like you.

]]> By: ChrisB http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958557 ChrisB Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:06:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958557 <p>This makes great reading. The trolls just can’t help themselves. All I can say is bring on 2010. The trolls will work straight into the traps. Even though they are floodlit.</p> This makes great reading. The trolls just can’t help themselves. All I can say is bring on 2010. The trolls will work straight into the traps. Even though they are floodlit.

]]> By: wayneNtampa http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958440 wayneNtampa Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:19:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958440 <p>Speak for yourself. I would welcome a single-payer system. I don’t see the benefit of paying the insurance companies 30¢ of every $1 to ration care and figure out ways to screw people.</p> Speak for yourself. I would welcome a single-payer system. I don’t see the benefit of paying the insurance companies 30¢ of every $1 to ration care and figure out ways to screw people.

]]> By: Blue Texan http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958427 Blue Texan Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:42:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958427 <p>By my count, its 5 out of the last 13: 1960, 1968, 1976, 1988, 1992. And again, I stipulated that by itself, it isn’t that compelling. It is only significant when considered with other factors, as discussed above.</p> By my count, its 5 out of the last 13: 1960, 1968, 1976, 1988, 1992. And again, I stipulated that by itself, it isn’t that compelling. It is only significant when considered with other factors, as discussed above.

]]> By: Petrocelli http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958426 Petrocelli Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:37:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958426 <p>What, are you expecting logic and facts to make an impression on the NeoCons and their ilk ?</p> What, are you expecting logic and facts to make an impression on the NeoCons and their ilk ?

]]> By: Gasman http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958425 Gasman Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:31:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958425 <p>If the single payer models in Canada and the U.K. are evil and contain the same kind of “DEATH PANELS” that are destined for us, how come there is no shortage of elderly Canadians or Brits?</p> If the single payer models in Canada and the U.K. are evil and contain the same kind of “DEATH PANELS” that are destined for us, how come there is no shortage of elderly Canadians or Brits?

]]> By: Cujo359 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958423 Cujo359 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:29:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958423 <p>“The norm” means “usual”. In eight of the last twelve general elections, the winning Presidential candidate earned more votes than the previous winner. <a href="http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/" rel="nofollow">Data here</a> in a nice, convenient form. Big exceptions were Nixon in ‘68, which George Wallace turned into a three-way, and Carter, which you mentioned already, which I assume was caused by a mixture of apathy and indifference.</p> <p>So I’m not impressed by higher vote totals. The opposite can sometimes impress me, depending on the reasons.</p> “The norm” means “usual”. In eight of the last twelve general elections, the winning Presidential candidate earned more votes than the previous winner. Data here in a nice, convenient form. Big exceptions were Nixon in ‘68, which George Wallace turned into a three-way, and Carter, which you mentioned already, which I assume was caused by a mixture of apathy and indifference.

So I’m not impressed by higher vote totals. The opposite can sometimes impress me, depending on the reasons.

]]> By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958416 Blub Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:18:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958416 <p>actually, I just don’t think they have an ideal future at all. They’re just shills for corporate interests that are in favor of sacrificing both American citizens and the national interest (and probably national survival) to the short-term interests of next quarters’ earnings. My point is that they lack vision at all. These are people who would happily cut off their nose to spite their face.</p> actually, I just don’t think they have an ideal future at all. They’re just shills for corporate interests that are in favor of sacrificing both American citizens and the national interest (and probably national survival) to the short-term interests of next quarters’ earnings. My point is that they lack vision at all. These are people who would happily cut off their nose to spite their face.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958411 Bluetoe2 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:12:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958411 <p>There side would seem to want an eventual national failure at which point they can go back to an earlier, purer state of existance. I think their model is the early 19th Century.</p> There side would seem to want an eventual national failure at which point they can go back to an earlier, purer state of existance. I think their model is the early 19th Century.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-reagan-in-1980/#comment-1958409 Bluetoe2 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:09:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/17/memo-to-jay-cost-obama-won-a-larger-percentage-of-the-popular-vote-in-2008-than-regan-in-1980/#comment-1958409 <p>Just watched Jane’s interview with Andrea Greenspan. Jane was great, as to be expected, and it looks like Andrea has had some elective face surgery. I have a feeling that somewhere in Mrs. Greenspan’s attic their is a portrait of her that is becoming more grotesque with each passing day.</p> Just watched Jane’s interview with Andrea Greenspan. Jane was great, as to be expected, and it looks like Andrea has had some elective face surgery. I have a feeling that somewhere in Mrs. Greenspan’s attic their is a portrait of her that is becoming more grotesque with each passing day.

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