Dude!

ES!

OK, I’m off to watch some entertaining TV via intertooobz

Night all!

FWDiva

Wow! The Hidden Cameras may be played near medical historians I know…tell me more.

Been a while since I listened to techno-variant.
fun.

newt! Howsa?

Hey Chris
tonight, in honor of you, i will watch fallon. haven’t seen it yet.

Jane’s tv appearance is on my mind that 76% support number she kept mentioning is only going to grow we got the facts/force on our side and a strong ally is the facts/force.
They have Glen Beck on their side and lies/ the Dark Side the Easy path.
When are we going to get new polls on that question of support?
Between screaming crazy gun nuts stopping citizens from debating at town halls because they are afraid of Americans getting even more interested in the issues by participating in democracy and being listened too, and some really weak lies only 20%ers seem to fall for because they don’t research stuff on google on the one hand.
And people like Jane I think we can win this Jane noted the progressives are standing up in the House that means the only way to stop this would be for at least one Dem to defect and filibuster.

Jane was very good.
And as good as being right on the facts and strategy is, leaving AMitchell with a intellectual shiner is just as important.
Plus, you know, the fun.

Hey Newt-set your timer for 6am Wed, on Bravo for “Game On.” which has to be in your top 5 too,

Wow! Just had minutes of crazy spiraling up and down comments.

Excellent. The Abbey business just before the big moment adds a lot of flavor.
By the way, you have noticed Sorkin’s obsession with neckties, no doubt.

Where are you Eureka? Slow toobz? I was back on the bay rowing today…no problems.
Hello Newt how’s biz?

especially when you consider the alternative.. like that Whole Foods CEO who wrote that what we Americans really need is more very high deductible coverage for those who can least afford it combined with higher premiums and more insurance deregulation, leading, he says, to more covered Americans. Hey deathers, that’s the rethug plan.

Jane told Andrea she would like to see a Senate Dem filibuster Andrea said that won’t happen. The only way that won’t happen is if Harry Reid does not bring Healthcare up for a vote and considering all the publicity this issue has that is not going to happen.
Now then Andrea any Dem Senator who supports a GOP filibuster on tv will face the full wrath and fundraising power of the Lefty blogs. Remember how Obama outspent Jon McCain in the presidential election because Obama raised all that internet money?
I’m sure we can find someone we like to run against any Democratic Senator who defects. The Dem who defects on healthcare won’t be causing a Democratic civil war which was the meme Andrea was trying to create.
Nope it will be a massacre of the Blue dogs. Any and all Senate Dems who defect better find new jobs.
Harry Reid out as Senate Majority leader if he can’t deliver votes then we need someone else.
The Blue Dogs had better lay low if they kill healthcare at 76% public support I don’t think they will be too popular back home.
Lets see them win elections without the help of the Dem activist base US!

hey BB
business is nominal
glad you’re well enough to return to the oars.

I think he likes the idea of scissoring them. Could be because he doesn’t wear them and probably hates them. He let Leo take his off only late at night at the WH.

I like that he mentions Bergen County NJ towns alot cuz that’s where he and I grew up. (I didn’t know him.)

Seeing Andrea spin helpless under the facts Jane was raining on her Priceless.

Hi all, I’m packing my dry bags. Heading out to float a few rivers this week. Hopefully enjoy a fresh trout or smallmouth supper or two.

ES!

Newt, thanks for the two excellently edited You-Tubes. Back in a bit – off to check out your new diary.

This is the really tough work. Getting them elected is hard enough. Exacting electoral retribution is 24/7/365. We have to be ready.

Yes with plans like that the GOP has to lie about our plan just to keep the support and energy of the 20%ers going.

We have been practicing electoral retribution since Holy Joe came on the scene we are getting better at it:)

Sam loans Will a necktie. Charlie ruins Jethro’s magic tie.
Leo goes without one and it is noticeable. There are more examples.

Do they make ties in Bergen Co.?

Hey, have a great getaway!

pretty entertaining song, ES.

speaking of doing odd things to office equipment outdoors…

So who’s going to write the public option into a House bill?

Weiner might be a good start. Kinda young, though.
But I like his throw-downness.

No, but he does mention the Paramus Mall on at least 2 occasions, which is one of the biggest in the NY metropolitan area. We all shopped there; I’m sure he did too.

Everybody in NJ hated driving through CT to get to New England because of the worst state troopers outside of the south. He used that in one plot-which one?

yep. The Mackey Plan for healthcare reform: increase the number of Americans covered by letting the insurance companies do whatever the heck they want, while simultaneously reminding Americans that nothing in the Constitution entitles them to healthcare. Brilliant. I guess I need to figure out where the Trader Joe’s around here is, ’cause I’m going to throw up if I try to walk into another Whole Foods.

Celestial Navigation.
Classic. Loved Olmos as a SCOTUS nominee.

Have fun, come back!

24/7/365. We have to be ready.

We had a blog post exposing the truth about Joe the Plumber well ok some of the truth there were so many lies the Night I first heard about Joe.
I think I made history by being the first person to call Joe a GOP plant because the cameramen just happened to catch Joe accidently running into Obama.
I’m sure Rove created Joe.
Anyway come election time the only place to hear late nite news that isn’t a rerun is the lake our late nite early morning thread culture during election time is 24/7.
The 24 hour cable news though is mostly reruns of daytime news. We are the place for news junkies.
The day Karl Rove resigned me and the other late nite/ early morning people were freaked at how many people read the threads where normally we don’t get to many commenters.
Because once the news Rove left the WH everyone had to say something I had no clue we had that many people on the those threads.
24/7 365 days a year yep we are ready

It was fun. You’re welcome!

salon.com

Obama, you’re no Machiavelli

The president should have heeded the Florentine’s advice before he embarked on healthcare reform

“It must be considered that there is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things. For the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the old order, and only lukewarm defenders in all those who would profit by the new order, this lukewarmness arising partly from fear of their adversaries, who have the laws in their favor; and partly from the incredulity of mankind, who do not truly believe in anything new until they have had actual experience of it. Thus it arises that on every opportunity for attacking the reformer, his opponents do so with the zeal of partisans, the others only defend him half-heartedly, so that between them he runs great danger.”

Ha! That guy must own a PC. He looks experienced.

That doof JokeThePlumber spoke to a rousing ovation and genuine adoration this weekend at the righty blog conference.
Any crowd he can get wound up is a crowd I want to see in charge of that party.

Excellent! Who was the first character Sorkin wrote out of the show?

That sounds great. I’ve only lived in large mouth country. Lived to fish back in the day.
Got me thinking…25 years ago[or so] they had an experimental program that mated large mouth and small mouth bass in the hopes of developing a sportier fish. The unfortunate result was an aggressive hybred that would attack anything on the shoreline, literally jumping out of the water to attack dogs and swimmers.
Somehow a few got bootlegged into lakes and were raising hell. That was right about the time I stopped fishing and stopped knowing fish info. Are those beasties still around? They were in the south.

it’s a bitcher, not a fug.

Mandy.

Everybody in NJ hated driving through CT to get to New England

Some misguided nutmeggers actually believe CT is part of New England *g*

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

Its hard for the GOP to argue that National Healthcare is not promoting the general welfare. But still they trylie.

I thought Rahm thought he was the Machiavelli in the WH the Dems Darth with the leaks always trying to subvert Obama and run things on the sly.

It is? LOL. That never seemed right because friends of mine who worked in NYC lived in the CT suburbs-about 15 miles away.

Here’s one:
Why does Bartlet always put his coat on over his head instead of laterally?

Thanks Margot, I will.. Though I may or may not be around Wed and Friday evening this week.

It’s been an odd month for new music so far… we are due a good funky dance song.

Any crowd he can get wound up is a crowd I want to see in charge of that party.

If Joe is your idol your doing something wrong.

Yes. And a very savvy move since she had no chemistry with anyone.

On a shallow note:
Coburn’s mother dresses him funny (that haircut – agggh!) and
hoping Armey uses some of his Piper severance money for a facelift, also.

Well I’ve done a lot of fishing and heard many a tall tales, but I’ve never heard of a largemouth attacking a dog.

A regular drag on the energy of the show, IMO.

I do remember him explaining it, but can’t remember. Why?

these are the same people who believe that the Constitution empowers unitary executive presidential dictatorship so I wouldn’t put much stock in their reading comprehension capabilities. ;-P

For A – Pear – ance sake ? *g*

ES ! Newt ! Firepups !

Who did Toby have a crush on? (Not his ex.)

Sheen’s left arm was injured during his birth, and he can’t extend it laterally. Forceps I think it was.

Newt, Maybe Conyers (or Kucinich?) could pen up a Robust PO… if willing, he might be a good guy for the task since he’s been a single payer author.

Poet Laureate Tabatha Fortis.

I don’t trust Conyers to get the job done, and I like Kucinich, but he would never betray his Single-Payer roots, for which he should be forgiven.

Just a drive by. I have lots of problems with Pear’s reporting but this should have been reported widely at the beginning of the healthcare debate. Seems that we have not had an administrator for Medicare and Medicaid since October 2006. The orginal fall down was Bush’s but seriously, Obama starts healthcare “reform” and he doesn’t have an administrator for these two super-important programs? Incredible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08…..1&hpw

No, a hybred. It was the more active small mouth that caused the aggression. Guess I’ll have to research that one now that it’s hit the memory bank. Made the papers, including the NYT. Major fuck up.

dude

I cannot believe you knew her full name, LOL. What are Toby’s twins names?

Mandy is a guy. One of the greatest Broadway actors in history.

Or am I missing a subtle nuance I have no clue about?

Huck & Molly.

Who played the part of the Senator from Idaho who switched parties from Dem to Gooper because Lyman punked him from the briefing room over military pork?

Yeah, emerson and I are being unfair. West Wing trivia.

Watching Rachel on Sunday (and Newt’s clips today), and watching Jane handily dismantal Andrea Mitchell’s beltway wisdom perversely reminded me of the bad old days when I’d watch sacrificial liberals like Michael Kinsley and Barbara Erlich being devoured by right-wing predators. How great it is to see our side winning those interaction and making it look as effortless as it should be. (And I know it’s not easy to be and stay that well prepared.)

I thought Mandy was a Broadway actor that Barry Manilow had the hots for …

Wigwam !

Long time no see, how’re you doing ?

Katrina, Chris Hayes, to a lesser extent Dr. Dean, too.
But Rachel is in a class by herself. She just doesn’t rattle, and she is really prepared.

Her ass-kicking tonight was epic.

I know the guy, trying to think of his name. Good character actor, slim, short, moustache. Gimme a minute-slight overbite-dam! Tom skerritt!!

Hey Petro. I’ve been staying busy trying to figure out this healthcare mess, and how to explain whatever insights I think I’ve gleaned. (Perverse fun.)

Who was her victim ?

Obama.
I think she called it “The collapse of political ambition.

It’s going to get very messy right up to the end. Perseverance will make a strong public option possible and the Corps are going to do everything to stop it.

I sense the Progressives have some momentum … might we see Conyers throw some Haymakers after the break, for HR 676 ?

In a sense, you’re right. When I was growing up, lots of folk didn’t consider those suburbs (Fairfield Co, etc) part of Connecticut.

Agreed. Also, Jane’s session with Mitchell was about as good as anything I’ve ever seen. It appeared that she had anticipated every question, which were admittedly quite predictable.

Rachel was involved in some real broken-field running, with four other people trampling on the conversation. An awsome performance.

I don’t know if Conyers has the energy. But yeah – after a disastrous weekend, we seem to have gained some footing.

Rachel is gentle. Jane is not. I thought Jane snapped Mitchell over her knee.

Yeah, and Mandy P was IN West Wing, wasn’t he?

Was he FIRST one written out?

Who was first one killed off? *G*

Yes, but she did it with the sweetest smile on her face.

Sorry, I don’t read Broadway’s Guide To Cheap And Tawdry Affiars . .

Sunny, I used to drive to Mass, VT, and NH often. I got tickets in CT 4 times. Maybe 2 other tickets in my life. I thought they had it out for me-like David Letterman without the speeding.

When you humiliate your host, smiling is the way to make it real.

“kay, I won’t bother telling you what went down at the Copacabana …

In a polite way, as Andrea was trying to negate her, Mz. Hamsher crushed her with reality, all with a smile and her gentle disdain for idjits.

Masterful. *G*

Did you have an NY plate on your car?

I hope she gets invited back. Mitchell’s house could use some cleaning out.

This Mandy was a woman, Larue. The first one killed was Mrs. Landingham in a car she bought and was driving home for the first time.

What was the intersection she was killed at?

18th and Potomac. But she wasn’t driving it home :-)

Thanks, I don’t care who’s doin who or why or when.

They should have the decency to keep it to themselves.

The REST of us are having hard enough times making our OWN issues work.

And then there’s the sex, too. *G*

Hah! No—New Jersey!! LOL. And I wasn’t the only one in NJ.

The person I really want to see on these shows more is Marcy, sending them out of the studio screaming with their hands over their ears.

Who was Mrs. Landinghams previous employer?

OK-you are now officially spooky. Where was she going?

Jed wanted to kick the tires.

Jed Bartlett’s father-and who played that part?

Hey, I remembered my fav secretary. Landingham? Ok, that was it.

The rest? You folks are killin me.

I need a script and a scorecard to even UNDERSTAND your insights . .

And WASN’T Mandy Patinkin a star in the series first year and part of second year?

(they’s killin me Ma, I’ll be home soon)

“How’s that for clever with words?”

She was coming back to the WH? I remember him telling her to. Hmm-yeah that makes sense-didn’t notice that specifically-but more guilt with the reminiscing is Sorkin’s style.

2 points about Rachel’s amazing comment:

1. You can replace “Health Care” with every major issue the Dems have bent over backwards on since the 2006 elections and she’d be spot on.

2. If there is no Public option in the final Bill, the Dems will split into two parties … the Progressives know this is the time and won’t back down.

It is.

What is Toby trying to save in an episode in which he submits his first on-screen resignation?

how did Jed rebel?

Same difference.

Matt Taibbi’s point that the Repugs are still not going to vote even if the Public option is dropped is also spot on !

If there is no Public option in the final Bill, the Dems will split into two parties … the Progressives know this is the time and won’t back down.

And, I think that Rahm, who is serving as Obama’s field commander, is too full of himself to realize that. He hates progressives and everything they stand for, and he cannot restrain his contempt. As Jane said, “I think there are going to be problems.”

He co-wrote an article for the school paper excoriating a professor for advocating book burning.

Exactly!!

BTW, what is the name of Matt’s new article about healthcare in the new Rollingstone?

Yes, but I wasn’t even trying to go that deep!! Just his general rebelling action?

Truly. The dems are negotiating with themselves.. Started with taking single payer off the table.

Advocating for equal pay for women at his school, which he never quite finished.
“Slap!”

The dems are negotiating with themselves.

I liked Matt’s analogy: “It’s time to stop bidding, when you the only one left.”

Whoever opposes the Public Option had better have a job ready with the Repugs because Rockefeller, Feingold & Kennedy are going to do everything to get it into the final Bill.

I’m getting nothing on this one. I’m thinking 1)his brothers life (in space)although I don’t remember that as such; 2)Jed’s nomination chances in NH (although everyone thopught he’d be fired and I don’t remember him resigning on paper)3)Jed’s re-election chances (but no recall again)

I give up.

Was she going to get flowers for the funeral of the soldier Toby was having buried at Arlington?

OK-but this was a physical action.

Time for me to crash.

G’nite, all.

Tried to pair with Republican and Democratic congresscritters to save Social Security in secret.

You got me…

Sunny-Newton said she was going back to the WH cuz Bartlett said he wanted to kick the tires.

Remember his scorning of God in the cathedral? (Which was superlative) Smoking.

“… you feckless thug.”
Nice one.

That was Shakespearean. How did Mrs. Landingham know Jed was listening and would follow her suggestions/advice. Another physical action.

He plunged his hands into his pockets, stood up straight, smiled.

That was a different one that I also liked. Toby’s face when the first round of shots fired. Who did Mrs. Landingham first tell about her sons dying in the war?

Ding, ding,ding. And in the previous cliffhanger episode, what was the last line and who delivered it? Not enough info on my part-the one where a drenched Jed is at the pulpit.

What malady did a certain Senator’s grandson have in an episode called “The Stackhouse Filibuster”?

Y’all are too good for me.

Watched daily reruns early in the Bush admin – an emotional experience. Prior to that, I’d only caught it hit or miss.

Charlie: “No. She’s dead.
Leo: “Is he alone?”
Charlie: “Yes.”

Didn’t he stub out the cig on the cathedral floor?

In an episode, Charlie – “In Excelsis Deo”

That’s my fault. The cliffhanger ending (of that same episode) was Jed at the pulpit fielding press questions. That was really a two-parter. Jed asks the reporter to repeat the question. So, what was the last line of that episode and who said it?

Want weedy?
In an episode called “Internal Displacement” in season 7, in which order did CJ speak to the ambassadors of China, France, and Germany?

Yes he did!

Republican Sen Stackhouse. Was it autism?

Wait – that wasn’t a two-parter. That was the last episode of season two – “2 Cathedrals” and the first episode of season 3 – “Manchester, Part 1″.

In 2 Cathedrals, he doesn’t answer the question from Sandy, “Mr. President, can you say right now that you will run for re-election?”. He shoots his hands in his pockets again.

In Manchester, Part one, he answers “Yeah, and I’m gonna win.”

It was autism, but Stackhouse was a Democrat. Good one!

I recall the episode. That was confusing. Not a Sorkin. China was last. I think France first, Germany 2nd. The German ambassador could have been a love interest for CJ if the series went on.

yeah, I didn’t see them by seasons cuz we were dealing art on cruise ships at the time. Interesting. So that’s why it was such a cliffhanger. That would have driven me nuts!!!

But there was one line after Sandy’s question and before the show ends?

Perfect. France, Germany, China.
That is a tremendous episode.
And…
She is with Danny Concanon in a restaurant for the second time in the episode when she is paged. Again. What is she paged about?

Nice one, Sunny!

Shit. How could I have forgotten it!
Leo: “Watch this…”

You got it.

Wow, no clue. Oh wait- is that when she goes to see Toby at his apartment?

He tells her how to cook the chicken.

Not all great episodes were written by Sorkin.
In season 6, in “In The Room” (The China trip), what is the first sign that the President is having problems?
and
Who wrote the episode?

Damn. I’ve a mental picture of the filibuster, but didn’t recall the plot. You guys really are amazing.

The episode begins with her in the restaurant with Danny as he is about to propose. She is being Type-A and kills it, but he mentions Doug Weston’s “banging the Nanny.” She bails out on dinner.

They have a second date at the same restaurant, being served by tha same chippy server. He makes his move, she gets paged and has to literally flee back to the White House. Why?

On Air Force One-He can’t see? Or was it that he couldn’t write? Soon after he couldn’t walk and had to be carried by the new body man. The writer was either O’donnell or what’s his name (also directed earlier) John____ DAM! one syllable name. can’t get it

No strong recall on that. She had to meet with Weston’s wife (who already knew) so she must have met with Doug after that call?

O’Donnell wrote it. Good one. Remember all the stuff that happens in this one – the China trip and the flight. Vinick tells Josh he’s running. The Gov. of PA decides NOT to run, placing the Veep at the top spot. Josh has lost the China trip over the Taiwanese flag. Leo and Josh discuss Vinick’s chances of taking California away from Dems. South Korean uranium enrichment.

And while they are prepping for the trip in the Oval, CJ hands him some papers to sign, but he reaches for them and is unable to grasp them. They fall to the floor and she picks them up.

She is paged, returns to the White House and is met by Kate in the outer-Oval, where she informs her that a nuclear plant in San Andreo is near meltdown.
Vinick is fucked.

It’s 4am – gotta leave yawl with it. Thanks for the memories.

Wow- I’ll have to watch that one again.

G’nite Sunny, Fun playing with ya.

It’s a beauty. Starts with the Penn & Teller flag-burning gag.

nite sunny

That was an excellent script. I liked the way Jed worked the PM by asking to see his predecessor. And what was Jed’s signal for the staff to get him out of there before he passed out?

Rub his face. No. Yeah. Rub his face.

I thought it was pull on his ear, but now I’m not sure,LOL

ok, so I’m hooked…

What was Mandy doing when she got the job offer?

Yep!
That was it. Tug on is ear.

And after thinking about it, you’re right about casting Adam Arkin.

Drinking champagne on the stairway with her partner?

I love Adam Arkin in everything, but he was superb in that one.

“…you’re not dealing with the paperboy either, Josh.”

Arkin was in a new show called “Life: which was offbeat and fresh, so of course NBC cancelled it, but he was outstanding in that too. The star looked like McQueen.

And in another one later.
Jed: “Tell me what you’d tell any other patient.”
Stanley: “Fool around if you like. But it’s your money, it’s about to be my money, and I sleep just fine.”

Excellent- that was the “…did you tell anyone you were coming here?” one. –$400/hr.

Portable phone in the pool, I thought.

But recall the stairwell scene, could be confused. Why were they drinking champagne? Anniversary of their firm?

ok, one last one and I have to bail.

Amelia Gardener is asked to debate-prep Santos for the New Hampshire debates that he hasn’t even been invited to participate in. She arrives in town and Josh stumbles into her in her hotel lobby.
What is she doing?

You were right the first time. I had forgotten it completely.

Josh: “…so you got off to a bad start. Are you gonna lie to me again?

Stanley: “No, I’m not

Josh: good

Stanley: you gonna lie to me?

Josh: I didn’t lie to you.

Stanley: No? How did you cut your hand?

Yep. Great setup.

Great scene.

I think it was frustration from their new business not getting any clients, and then Josh walks in and offers her the job?

Not sure why I’m saying this, but eating an ice cream cone?

“I live for cold. I luxuriate in cold. I fight cold with more cold.”
Yep, eating ice cream. Very good!

ok, bailing out you guys, had a blast.
nite emerson
nite sunny

Sunny, I think you’re thinking about when Toby offers CJ the job at her apartment after she was fired that day. He surprises her and she falls into the pool and makes him turn his back )which was a nice little play.)

Oh yes, right. They were celebrating the failure of their firm.

Attaturk is upstairs!
En-raptured

Sunny, having problems sleeping still?

Right. I’ve conflated the two.
I bow to the masters.
G’nite for realsies.

Sleep well, Sunny.