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	<title>Comments on: Peggy Noonan: Obama&#8217;s Health Care Proposals Must Be Terrible, Because No Republicans Support Them</title>
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		<title>By: BeBop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/14/peggy-noonan-obamas-health-care-proposals-must-be-terrible-because-no-republicans-support-them/#comment-1956443</link>
		<dc:creator>BeBop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I Can’t begrudge Peggy trying to earn a pay check….But her comments are so tired and She really doesn’t add anything to the conversation. She should ride off gracefully into the Sunset and leave her opinions there.&lt;br /&gt;
Obviously her time has Come and now ..Thankfully gone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Can’t begrudge Peggy trying to earn a pay check….But her comments are so tired and She really doesn’t add anything to the conversation. She should ride off gracefully into the Sunset and leave her opinions there.<br />
Obviously her time has Come and now ..Thankfully gone.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But the party can be harsh too. Look what happened to Sarah of the North. First she’s running for Vice President, then she’s off to Alaska to be governor, then she gives that up and ends up fishing for a living. It’s a sad sad story of how the Republican party treats it’s members. Next thing ya know she has to pay for her own daily living expenses, has to return clothes they bought for her, maybe gets divorced, has to put her Down-syndrome child up before the ‘death board’. It’s a tough life for Sarah.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But then, that’s what happens when you’re on the outskirts of the old Soviet Union — right over there across the bay from her front porch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;/s&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the party can be harsh too. Look what happened to Sarah of the North. First she’s running for Vice President, then she’s off to Alaska to be governor, then she gives that up and ends up fishing for a living. It’s a sad sad story of how the Republican party treats it’s members. Next thing ya know she has to pay for her own daily living expenses, has to return clothes they bought for her, maybe gets divorced, has to put her Down-syndrome child up before the ‘death board’. It’s a tough life for Sarah.</p>
<p>But then, that’s what happens when you’re on the outskirts of the old Soviet Union — right over there across the bay from her front porch.</p>
<p>/s</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lemmings unite!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemmings unite!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve heard several suggest the reform needs to focus more on cost savings using market reforms (or something like that). But when it comes to what they might do (or accept from a Dem proposal) there’s nothing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact the idea of a public option is to enable better market performance through competition.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any other mechanism to ‘control costs’ would be viewed as government interference or Draconian or Dictatorial Socialism or some other nonsense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only possible excess in the reform legislation is the mandates. Take away those, so the public option is not required and there would be no heavy hand of the gov’t, but just an option the public can choose of it’s own free will. What would the wing-nuts complain about then?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, they made up the ‘death panel’, so they would obviously come up with something stupid. They’re good at that. It’s the alternative they offer and Noonan is apparently cheering on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reform IS going to happen. Republicans won’t like it no matter what’s in there. I can live with that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve heard several suggest the reform needs to focus more on cost savings using market reforms (or something like that). But when it comes to what they might do (or accept from a Dem proposal) there’s nothing</p>
<p>In fact the idea of a public option is to enable better market performance through competition.</p>
<p>Any other mechanism to ‘control costs’ would be viewed as government interference or Draconian or Dictatorial Socialism or some other nonsense.</p>
<p>The only possible excess in the reform legislation is the mandates. Take away those, so the public option is not required and there would be no heavy hand of the gov’t, but just an option the public can choose of it’s own free will. What would the wing-nuts complain about then?</p>
<p>Well, they made up the ‘death panel’, so they would obviously come up with something stupid. They’re good at that. It’s the alternative they offer and Noonan is apparently cheering on.</p>
<p>Reform IS going to happen. Republicans won’t like it no matter what’s in there. I can live with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Winski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I sure wish Nooners would share some of that recreational delusion medication that she has…It’s gotta be good for getting out then getting back into (only if Karl tells you to) reality….breathtaking lunacy….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure wish Nooners would share some of that recreational delusion medication that she has…It’s gotta be good for getting out then getting back into (only if Karl tells you to) reality….breathtaking lunacy….</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry I was no back earlier….and, NO.  Ingraham….she has been relentless in attacking, ridiculing the President….now she starts on his dead mother.  Tacky, cruel.  Sorry for confusion…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I was no back earlier….and, NO.  Ingraham….she has been relentless in attacking, ridiculing the President….now she starts on his dead mother.  Tacky, cruel.  Sorry for confusion…</p>
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		<title>By: wmd1961</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmd1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m a mathematician, or at least that’s how I think of myself. Never learned how to touch type, still manage 60+ wpm with reasonable accuracy. My keyboard skills come from stealing computer time by punching card decks at the University computer center back in 1973/1974 when I was 12/13 years old. I learned where keys are on an IBM 029 keypunch (used to program the key punch to put sequence numbers in the 72-80 column field so I could sort my deck if it got scrambled). I’ve been a geek for a long time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the compliment, I hoped someone would appreciate it, and the usual suspects are at NN  cheering on Christie’s panel (IRL or virtually).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I commented at Christies before it was promoted to the front page - I always look for Friday Muppet Blogging and she’s been great about getting it out every week and keeping it fresh and relevant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a mathematician, or at least that’s how I think of myself. Never learned how to touch type, still manage 60+ wpm with reasonable accuracy. My keyboard skills come from stealing computer time by punching card decks at the University computer center back in 1973/1974 when I was 12/13 years old. I learned where keys are on an IBM 029 keypunch (used to program the key punch to put sequence numbers in the 72-80 column field so I could sort my deck if it got scrambled). I’ve been a geek for a long time.</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliment, I hoped someone would appreciate it, and the usual suspects are at NN  cheering on Christie’s panel (IRL or virtually).</p>
<p>BTW, I commented at Christies before it was promoted to the front page &#8211; I always look for Friday Muppet Blogging and she’s been great about getting it out every week and keeping it fresh and relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;awesome liveblogging wmd, you a court reporter or something? ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome liveblogging wmd, you a court reporter or something? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: wmd1961</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmd1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;now it’s cable gasbag blah blah blah&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now it’s cable gasbag blah blah blah</p>
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		<title>By: wmd1961</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmd1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Q:&lt;br /&gt;
(One more question)&lt;br /&gt;
Because you’re a constitutional scholar, &lt;a href=&quot;http://leg.mt.gov/css/Laws%20and%20Constitution/Current%20Constitution.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MT constitution&lt;/a&gt; preamble…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reading this for me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q:<br />
(One more question)<br />
Because you’re a constitutional scholar, <a href="http://leg.mt.gov/css/Laws%20and%20Constitution/Current%20Constitution.asp" rel="nofollow">MT constitution</a> preamble…</p>
<p>Thanks for reading this for me.</p>
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