Good evening pups!

I see Bill Clinton. But where are Jessica Valenti’s boobs?

Eli has a couple dozen photos from today’s session of Netroots Nation over at his home blog muti-medium.net.

Thank you Eli for these great pics! And talk about fast – Clinton is still speaking

If someone can point me at ‘em, I’ll see what I can do.

2500 + watching online, me included.

Uhhhh…

Did Mr. Bill just give a shout out to FDL with his “holding progressives’ feet to the fire” on healthcare reform statement?

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Clinton says we need to preserve our progressive majority.

WHAT progressive majority?

Shouldn’t it be progressives holding other people’s feet to the fire? And when the Big Dawg had his shot at healthcare reform, like Obama, he went the corporate appeasing route and ended up with squat.

Bill is speaking with his audience in mind and doing some cagey politicking equating Democrats with progressives, which they aren’t.

The charter school progressives.

Bill has obviously never engaged any of our trolls. *g*

Gag me with a spoon.

Ya, I get where you all are coming from , but he also muttered what I had to say about forcing those on (y)our side (I’m Canadian) to do the right thing.

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Bill can charm the pants off of many. I include myself for several years, but no longer.

That would be a sight to see, though…

“We can’t ask the President to do it alone.” That I agree with. Never use a preposition to end a sentence with.

Well, he IS the keynote speaker for tonight. Nice venue. Nice place to speak from and to others. Others who are there.

Dang, just caught the closing of Big Dog!! Thanks for the link SD!

Dang, he sure sounded good, was he that good the whole presentation?

Sounded like a Unity Speech?

Crowd looks a little younger this year.

Wish I could have heard what the heckler was saying. I know it was about “Don’t Ask…” and DOMA, just curious as to what s/he actually said. Just ruminating.

Hmm, no more video for tonight. *sob*

They didn’t call him Slick Willie for nothing (before Monica, that is).

I have a vague memory that Bill met with some bloggers once. I believe it was well before Hillary announced but it was supposed to be their big effort at outreach to the netroots and progressives. After that it was pretty much crickets.

It was Lane Hudson, HuffPost blogger and activist, who Tweeted us “Should I yell out about DADT and DOMA?” because WJC wasn’t talking about it during his litany of accomplishments. THen, suddenly, all these tweets about a “heckler!”

OT: I am just signing off. But tonight I went to health care discussion held in a large auditorium at the TX Medical Assoc. It seemed well-managed and informative. Several doctors, small business folks, et al…The common enemy is the insurance folks. The Pres., in his introduction mentioned the outrageous executive pay. Maybe more tomorrow if we are on this topic. They are planning to put up a webpage for sharing information. I’ll let you know if I get it. Large voice for public option/single payer. So glad I went. Good night.

That’s why he’s called Big Dog, he is way beyond O but there’s still little I agree with. I believe his heart in it but not his sponsers. We must never forget that once a bill is in place to change it is ?
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Old progressives…

DOMA happened on his watch and he signed it into law in 1996. I wrote an item on it for my Obama scandals list.

The bill passed the House 342-67 and the Senate 85-14. Here’s the link to the Senate vote:

http://www.senate.gov/legislat…..vote=00280

It has some interesting names in terms of who voted for it.

According to my notes, DADT was in 1993 and, of course, also on Bill’s watch.

*sigh* I’m thankful I even have access to the Net right now, muchless attending NN…! ;-)

OT – sorry – Rachel Maddow to be on Meat the Press with Dick Armey Sunday

Wah! I didn’t make it this year.

He was talking to Colin Powell about it so it was definitely on his watch. Said mid level officers are the ones who fucked up its implementation. Ooooooooooooookay.

Hey, man, how ya doin’. Long time no see.

No fuckin’ way.

Hey CT – Amen to that!

As I recall, didn’t Slick Willy ‘waffle’ on it thusly creating the abomination that is DADT… due to heavy pressure from the Brass and Repugs…? I know it was an extremely controversial topic while serving as a NCO durng the time….! 8-(

Dya think she’ll be prepared, or will it take another 2 days before her devaating response will be available?

Aloha, ES, SD, etc…! Hey, Betsy, you’re over here now, eh…? ;-)

DADT was an outcome of Bill’s attempt to end the gay ban in the military. It was his first attempt to make law, and the GOP, and some Dems, saw an opportunity to show this minority-elected young Democratic president who was in charge: Capitol Hill.

DOMA was Bill’s attempt to inoculate himself in 1996 against charges he was gay-friendly, in advance of the prez election.

Both were his doing.

what do you mean?

i’m at the beach house too! and MPS.

Maddow is uncannily well prepared. Armey should be very, very worried. But likely, he is not.

Rachel has lost 1 or 2 arguements against the wingnuts, live. Sorry I can’t remember names. It took her another day or two on one occassion to craft a response, which was devastating but too late. I resemble her in that regard, leading me to be particularly anxious about whether she’ll flop or perform on Sunday.

Uhoh… The better half wants to go…! I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu…!!!

Aloha Oe…!

Yes and Bill Clinton does not appear a progressive. He acted a bit moderate. The minimum wage did go up in his administration and he did create the climate for 22 million jobs created but Clinton signed the 1996 TANF their hides welfare law.

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Lost one or two? Everyone has an off day, now and again. I think she’s pretty savvy. Except for Kent, and some over the top comedic histrionics here and there, she’s great. I’m not worried for her on Sunday. Not at all. She’ll be prepared all right.

A joke. Why does the birther movement and the anti health care thug movement exist?

Because Barack Obama has nothing to do with Monica Lewinsky.

I have a good comeback for those who call single payer socialized medicine.

“Killer conservatives such as Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols and the murderer of Dr. Tiller have single payer health care. Why can’t law abiding citizens have single payer health care too.”

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The one or two Rachel’s lost are the only ones she’s engaged in. She keeps asking for the opposition to come on her show, but on the only occassions I witnessed, that they actually appeared, the opposition won in real time. As I said, Rachel devastated them a day or two later, but wtf does that do?

TB, you ARE the Beach Hauz! *G*

You and I may have to agree to disagree.

The one I saw was PatBuch spewing his hatred and Rachel only got “mad” when he told her what she should think. 1-2 days later, she hammered him but she should have done so on the same show … not sure if that is one of the times eCAHN is referring to …

Is she reined in with respect to certain guests, by her management and network ownership?

Or perhaps, letting them have the rope to hang?

All in all, much ado about little, WRT Rachel.

We’ll see how she does off her show and in The Mouse Circus!

Armey should be child’s play for her . . . unless she’s muzzled . . .

Rachel just has to remember that scum like Armey are not normal people and do not deserve to be treated as such. I don’t think it’s at all necessary to ask thugs if they think they’re being treated fairly as she asked Scott the other night. Scott certainly came out of that interview unscathed and there was plenty to nail him on.

She let him and Buchanon fillibuster because she was just too polite, IMO. She needs to be more aggressive and contest Armey’s bullshit. Gregory won’t let her finish her thoughts-she’ll have to insist on it.

Yep. Gregory will be the RePugs’ concern troll so it’s 2-1 agin Rachel. I hope she brings her Amarnth.

I’d sure like to see someone ask The Big Dog about getting out there on the campaign trail for Single Payer.

I’d also like to see him stop by the White House & give Rahm a kick in the pants.

It would be irresponsible not to inquire.