Comments on: Newt Gingrich Offers Irrefutable Proof That Health Care Reform Will Lead to Euthanasia http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:28:03 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952883 cinnamonape Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:29:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952883 <p>Correction…Newtie was having his affair with a campaign aide…not an intern. </p> <p>And his wife DID sue Newt for not paying bills and other expenses, and received judgment from this slimy amphibian in court.</p> Correction…Newtie was having his affair with a campaign aide…not an intern.

And his wife DID sue Newt for not paying bills and other expenses, and received judgment from this slimy amphibian in court.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952877 cinnamonape Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:16:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952877 <p>Why doesn’t any point out that Newt Gingerich’s sole personal experience with an end-of-life patient was with his wife dying of terminal cancer. He handed her divorce papers on her deathbed, all while having an affair with an intern. Did he think about what she might have thought this would do to her health-care coverage? Did he really expect her to be able to handle a court fight over property and benefits while she was hospitalized? Newt Gingerich is scum .Y ou really think that this guy is at all concerned about the well-being and personal choices of those at the end of their lives. I bet he was trying to manipulate her to a more rapid death by bringing a whole truckload of stress down on her shoulders.</p> Why doesn’t any point out that Newt Gingerich’s sole personal experience with an end-of-life patient was with his wife dying of terminal cancer. He handed her divorce papers on her deathbed, all while having an affair with an intern. Did he think about what she might have thought this would do to her health-care coverage? Did he really expect her to be able to handle a court fight over property and benefits while she was hospitalized? Newt Gingerich is scum .Y ou really think that this guy is at all concerned about the well-being and personal choices of those at the end of their lives. I bet he was trying to manipulate her to a more rapid death by bringing a whole truckload of stress down on her shoulders.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952875 cinnamonape Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:06:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952875 <p>It wasn’t exactly that the Pentagon was happy about the death counts being made public, either. Recall that everybody from Agnew to Westmoreland blamed the media for bringing US casualties “home” by the counts, images of flag-draped coffins arriving stateside, and stories about the personal “costs of war”. That’s why Bush managed all of this stuff with the MSM, so that only now are we learning about the heavy psychological damage Iraki Vets are confronting.</p> It wasn’t exactly that the Pentagon was happy about the death counts being made public, either. Recall that everybody from Agnew to Westmoreland blamed the media for bringing US casualties “home” by the counts, images of flag-draped coffins arriving stateside, and stories about the personal “costs of war”. That’s why Bush managed all of this stuff with the MSM, so that only now are we learning about the heavy psychological damage Iraki Vets are confronting.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952873 ThingsComeUndone Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:53:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952873 <p>Every time the GOP says Euthanasia we need to say Living Will about what to do if you are left a brain dead like Newt.</p> Every time the GOP says Euthanasia we need to say Living Will about what to do if you are left a brain dead like Newt.

]]> By: Mile23 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952815 Mile23 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:15:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952815 <p>Newt doesn’t have to prove anything. He just has to sound like he might know what he’s talking about. That’s the game here: Keep the fear alive.</p> Newt doesn’t have to prove anything. He just has to sound like he might know what he’s talking about. That’s the game here: Keep the fear alive.

]]> By: wedidit http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952791 wedidit Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:34:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952791 <p>In response to Oldfatguy (#53) and tmullins (#60),</p> <p>I wonder if members of Congress continue their great healthcare policies or if they have to go hunting for Insurance like we do? Most likely, the 1st option since most of them stay in DC and become Lobbyists for the same companies that screw us on a daily basis</p> In response to Oldfatguy (#53) and tmullins (#60),

I wonder if members of Congress continue their great healthcare policies or if they have to go hunting for Insurance like we do? Most likely, the 1st option since most of them stay in DC and become Lobbyists for the same companies that screw us on a daily basis

]]> By: Lonni http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952783 Lonni Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:21:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952783 <p>Oldfatguy, I’m not lying and you are right…there are different experiences at different VA hospitals. I’ve had great care at Cincinnati and Miami. However, even at those places I’ve heard horror stories from people who haven’t had. It’s a people thing bottom-line. </p> <p>Raven, I don’t have any problem in receiving “end-of-life” counseling. When I had my heart attack and was at “instant death” the only thing the doctors were interested in was saving my life not wanting to know how comfortable I’d be while I was dying. So far all of that has come from nurses and social workers though, not doctors, so I’m at a loss as to why the doctors will be paid for giving the counseling. </p> <p>At any rate, my attitude is that I’m gonna live in spite of what some politicians think….and that just to tick them off! LOL</p> Oldfatguy, I’m not lying and you are right…there are different experiences at different VA hospitals. I’ve had great care at Cincinnati and Miami. However, even at those places I’ve heard horror stories from people who haven’t had. It’s a people thing bottom-line.

Raven, I don’t have any problem in receiving “end-of-life” counseling. When I had my heart attack and was at “instant death” the only thing the doctors were interested in was saving my life not wanting to know how comfortable I’d be while I was dying. So far all of that has come from nurses and social workers though, not doctors, so I’m at a loss as to why the doctors will be paid for giving the counseling.

At any rate, my attitude is that I’m gonna live in spite of what some politicians think….and that just to tick them off! LOL

]]> By: tmullins http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952751 tmullins Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:57:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952751 <p>My father had good insurance and from all the fancy ads, billboards, television commercials and infomercials I thought he was in the best (hospital) health care system in East Tennessee. Boy was I duped. His care was called “horrifying” by the state of Tennessee, but said it was perfectly within the parameters of what they deem, defend and support as “the acceptable standards of care” in E. TN. He had a nurse playing doctor who was practicing medicine as a physician without a physician’s license. The man was showing all the signs and symptoms of internal bleeding and was going into shock yet the nurses prognosis was Sundowners Syndrome. They finally had a nursing instructor who teaches at The University of Tennessee who said the reason my father was going into (shock, was sweating profusely, confused, no urine output, blood pressure dropping 55/35, heart rate increasing 255,blood sugar was topping out around 600), it could have been caused by the room temperature being set too high. It’s on record in Greeneville, TN Federal Court. Case no 2:04-cv-375.<br /> See what is called quality health care in TN and VA. <a href="http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62" rel="nofollow">http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62</a> He rotted to death for ten long months, his legs were amputated. He was begging for a gun, looking back I should have granted him that wish.<br /> note to Mitch McConnell, Sean Hannity and the Lewin Group (aka UnitedHealthCare which is advising the Republican Party). We already have rationed health care in America.</p> My father had good insurance and from all the fancy ads, billboards, television commercials and infomercials I thought he was in the best (hospital) health care system in East Tennessee. Boy was I duped. His care was called “horrifying” by the state of Tennessee, but said it was perfectly within the parameters of what they deem, defend and support as “the acceptable standards of care” in E. TN. He had a nurse playing doctor who was practicing medicine as a physician without a physician’s license. The man was showing all the signs and symptoms of internal bleeding and was going into shock yet the nurses prognosis was Sundowners Syndrome. They finally had a nursing instructor who teaches at The University of Tennessee who said the reason my father was going into (shock, was sweating profusely, confused, no urine output, blood pressure dropping 55/35, heart rate increasing 255,blood sugar was topping out around 600), it could have been caused by the room temperature being set too high. It’s on record in Greeneville, TN Federal Court. Case no 2:04-cv-375.
See what is called quality health care in TN and VA. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 He rotted to death for ten long months, his legs were amputated. He was begging for a gun, looking back I should have granted him that wish.
note to Mitch McConnell, Sean Hannity and the Lewin Group (aka UnitedHealthCare which is advising the Republican Party). We already have rationed health care in America.

]]> By: Elliott http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952742 Elliott Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:45:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952742 <p>He does enjoy his lying.</p> <p>Like Kristol</p> He does enjoy his lying.

Like Kristol

]]> By: Raven http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952737 Raven Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:36:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/newt-gingrich-offers-irrefutable-proof-that-health-care-reform-will-lead-to-euthanasia/#comment-1952737 <p>Got it. You haven’t seen the new VFW magazine have you? Front page article about Woodstock and how everyone ignored the 179 (I think) troops killed those 4 days. I emailed the editor and asked if there were going to be similar articles about the World Series and Super Bowl that year. The message bounced!</p> Got it. You haven’t seen the new VFW magazine have you? Front page article about Woodstock and how everyone ignored the 179 (I think) troops killed those 4 days. I emailed the editor and asked if there were going to be similar articles about the World Series and Super Bowl that year. The message bounced!

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