Check out this guy at an event in Colorado on SATURDAY for Ed Perlmutter.

Who wears French cuffs, cufflinks to a political event on a Saturday? Only a Republican operative.

There was also a car trashed.

1991 – 100 plus thousand in the streets of San Francisco peacefully protesting war in Iraq. Upwards of 30 thousand arrested by some reports. Entire piers were used as jails. People who wanted harm to cease upon their troops and millions of innocents.

Hardly a blip on even the local news. San Francisco Chamber of Commerce buys full page ad in NYT apologizing for SF peace protesters.

2009.. a few handfuls of paid brownshirt organizers who make no sense at all.. almost none are arrested for their intimidating disruption (not suggesting they should be). People who want harm to continue on tens of millions of their fellow citizens.

And the media gives them all the air time possible in comparison.

Cornyn was on CNN this am and claimed to have attended w/ Doggett. He spewed damn near every republican lie about Obamacare that is out there. He said Medicare would be raided for 500 Billion dollars of funding, cutting their services, claimed a complete government takeover, of Health Care, would put every private insurance co. out of business, and on and on. The worse part was the Host did not once call Cornyn on a single lie. Durbin was very weak from the start and only at the very end did he try to dispute Cornyns lies by calling them “mis-information”.
Part of Obama popularuty before he was elected was his willingness to callout in plain terms the rights propaganda. We need more official spokesmen willing to speak out in the same way as Marcy and KangoX do.

Cynthia, you are raising a great point. I’m a-gonna expand upon it later. I think the corporate failure to maintain the anger-movement is a major developing story. It doesn’t let the corps off the hook for their extraordinary anti-democratic effort to create violent, vigilante mobs.

I was at the event Saturday in Austin. There were angry faces. But the protesters didn’t stay. I’m writing about this a little later in the morning. I hope many others pick up on your observations. The failure of this fake movement is bigger news than the effort to manufacture it.

Cornyn was there. He stayed inside (the event was outside; child health screening were underway inside the facility). Maybe talked to some reporters, then left before Doggett spoke. Quite weird and weak, actually.

I saw the disruption coming. A few months ago the Obama administration had opened up a web page where people could write about the issues that appeared important to them. The web site looked fine for days until then a swarm of Republi KLAN birthers flooded the web site with thousands of topics essentially repeating one topic of the birth certificate of President Obama.

Instead of a web page, the Republi KLAN party misleaders have unleashed their boorish shock troops to disrupt government business at town halls all across the nation. Yes, a town hall appears a government operation and Dick Armey, of Freedumbworks needs to get called before the FBI for conspiracy to disrupt government business.

Sign these health care petitions

http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross

http://bit.ly/HR676

Read our blog http://blog.democratz.org

A similar thing happened with the Tim Walz and Collin Peterson joint appearance at the Redwood County, Minnesota Farmfest last week. One disruptor showed up, called Walz and Peterson Commies, Walz and the Farmfest organizers dealt with her superbly, and that was that.

http://www.bluestemprairie.com…..tents.html

a belated thanks to you for joining forces w/ Jane & FDL and mobilizing for all the CO. events this week.

that pic takes me back to my misspent youth at Vietnam protests and picking out the FBI guys – they had spit shine sandals -lol

p.s. – did that “final solution” pig in Pueblo get any scrutiny from CO. media ??

I do not watch CNN!. I consider CNN trash like Hoax News.

Has anyone been able to compare pics of the various town halls and see if the disruptors are the same people? Someone needs to get pics of those busses Americans for Prosperity(gag)is sending out to see who is getting off and on them. The head of AFP was on Rachel Maddow’s show last week and said those busses were for education purposes,not bussing people in and out. Yeah,right.

Who wears French cuffs, cufflinks to a political event on a Saturday?

I have French cuffs on all of my *Sunday* T-shirts.

But Saturday? That just makes no fashion sense whatsoever.

Please don’t underestimate the 9-12 / We Surround You crowd.
They may be badly misinformed,
but they are also well organized.
As the unemployment rate
continues to climb over the coming months,
they are going to attract more followers.
And if they perceive that they are losing the debate,
they will become angrier and angrier.

just now on MSRNC – Mike Viquera “genuine”, “heartfelt” and “visceral” concern generating these protests

This item on civil disagreement is very heartening.

I have never understood why people would condemn invective by heaping on more of their own invective. Or why people would rail against name-calling by calling others names. Or why it is permissible, even laudable, for one side to use certain tactics but loathesome when the other side uses the very same tactics. Or why we impugn the motives of people who impugn our motives.

If we could just stick to the issues and leave the hate speech out of it, we’d all be better off.

I have a dream . . .

well, there is precedent for dealing with these types of disagreements.

They were called “free speech zones”.

I suggest that the marketing slogan for the re-institution of free speech zones be – “Suck on It”.

Cynthia, This is good news.

While public awareness of the shout-it-down shut-it-down tactic has disarmed it, the same was what piqued concern about potential for violence.

It looks like Congressmen and women and able to speak, and angry citzens are able to vent. I have been impressed with the way Rep. Chris Murphy and others have engaged angry crowds.

Civil is a start, now let’s get to reform we can believe in.

I still worry about the same thing Frank Schaeffer worries about. One psychologically unstable winger determined to deliver justice. And I worry about the lies… guvmint-run health care as opposed to guvmint-run health insurance and “death panels”, etc.

Because we tend to get what we expect, let’s take these signs as good signs and expect more of the same.

oh damn, you made my day!

Thanks, that kinda my point. If the anger is manufactured, it’s hard to maintain. Real passion on the other hand is hard to suppress.

The people we are seeing, even though they don’t agree with us, have issues for which they have a passion and they want their issues addressed. Frankly many of those issue CAN be addressed to arrive at consensus.

I would not support a plan that threatened medicaid either. I don’t know anyone who would.

If teabaggers want medicaid protected in this reform, I, for one, could support them in that.

I’m sure there are other areas on which it would be relatively easy for both sides to reach consensus.

We could whittle down the number of points that divide us on health care reform until the problems was small enough to drown in a tea cup.

We just have to talk TO each other not AT each other. Which I think has begun to happen. The tea baggers may have started out all wingnutty, but to sustain a movement and have people come out time and time again, you need real passion, not fake anger.

The serious people seem to be going the distance, at least here on Long Island.

I love my fellow Islanders, they are the salt of the earth

I have to tell you, I had an interview–which my video camera appears to have eaten, with a spokesman for 9-12 Suffolk County, he was very sane.

Yes, they are organized, but this gentleman’s message when he spoke to me was about patriotism and the feeling of solidarity that we had on the day after 9-11.

It was a positive message. I have no clue about other people in that organization, but the man I interviewed–I’m gonna try to track him down and reinterview–with a pad and pen this time, technology is not my friend–because he had things to say that with respect to common ground.

I sent this email to Frank Rich.

Mr. Rich

I have a solution to the corporatism of the Democratic party. Boycott some of their campaign contributors and demand the legislation from them. See our blog at http://blog.democratz.org and you will find out how you can put asunder peacefully the conservative corporatists in both parties and the corporations that give money to them.

I’m writing this by email because the censors at the NY Times online would probably not allow my comment to get published, which also appears partially why I do not get the NY Times any longer. I watch CSPAN Washington Journal and CSPAN 1,2 and 3 for my news.

Actually I’ll give you the boycott petitions right here.

http://bit.ly/HR676 where people can email United Health care, the partner of the traitorous AARP that screwed middle class seniors with the junk Medicare Part D and boycott Republi KLAN contributor Rite Aid Pharmacies, and email congressional Republi KLAN leaders of this intent to boycott them.

http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross where people can email conservative Democrat Mike Ross and Tyson Foods that unless Mike Ross gets the entire conservative Democratic coalition to enact HR676 into law and until that happens people will boycott Tyson Foods of Arkasas, Ross’ contributor and constituent of Arkansas.

Yes by using selected boycotts, people can destroy peacefully the control that corporations have over congress.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not some wild eyed optimist–well OK maybe I am.

I do know that at the same time these relatively civil if robust exchanges of chanting slogan and waving signs was going on, in Tenn. people actually brought guns to Steve Cohen’s town hall.

Which is shameful.

Intimidation is shameful. Coercion is shameful. There is no need to bring a gun to a place where peaceful free speech is supposed to take place.

Whether or not you have a carry permit that makes it technically legal for you to have that gun on your person, there is no NEED for that gun at a peaceful free speech event. There is nothing for you to need self protection from.

Speaking of 9-11 and 9-12 Bush provoked the 9-11 attacks over failed oil pipeline deals in Afghanistan from Jan 2001 until Sept 11, 2001.

Read the book “Forbidden Truth: Secret US – Taliban Oil Diplomacy and the failed Hunt For Bin Laden.” by Dasquie and Brisard.

It is always a good idea to be highly skeptical of any book or article that has “Truth” in its title.

I think Lloyd Doggett actually came up with a pretty good response. In effect, he said the whole drummed up effort to shout down legitimate discussion convinced him even more strongly to vote for the most progressive legislation. The purpose of all this is to influence congressmen. If all Democrats began to respond that, in view of the lobbyist and Republican efforts to limit discussion and any possibility of “bipartisanship”, they were increasingly pursuaded that reconcilliation process should be used to adopt meaningful reform, it might undermine the right wing effort.

I save my skepticism for the Republi KLAN party which has demonstrated their profits before people philosophy and death to millions since the 1920’s.

The Trickster resigned 35 years ago today!

God, not again today. This 9-11 shit is really old.

It might not be a trend Cynthia but its a good start very good news I’m happy:)

They turned the guns in before going in that is good news in my book:) Still Happy:)

Cynthia –

Based on this story from the Danville (VA) Register and Bee, it sounds like Tom Periello managed to calm the waters at at least one of his town halls.

Rep. Tom Perriello’s town hall meeting at O.T. Bonner Middle School on Wednesday started with the chaos of a Jerry Springer episode but ended with the calm of the Scripps National Spelling Bee.

The R&B writing style is a bit much, but if it’s good news I’ll take it in whatever form. I live just south of Tom’s district but do most of my shopping there and am very glad that he is now the rep for that area.

Happy to share a little news of sanity slowly returning,
Tammie K in NC