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		<title>By: Jesterfox</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesterfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;GitcheeGoomie &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; Lake Superior.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GitcheeGoomie <strong>is</strong> Lake Superior.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952771</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most of the people at these rallies are middle age and seniors who&lt;br /&gt;
fear that an expansion of medicare will dilute their coverage,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In 1980, I knew a woman on welfare who voted for Reagan, because he would “get rid of the welfare queens” and then there by more money for her and people like her.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most of the people at these rallies are middle age and seniors who<br />
fear that an expansion of medicare will dilute their coverage,</p>
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<p>In 1980, I knew a woman on welfare who voted for Reagan, because he would “get rid of the welfare queens” and then there by more money for her and people like her.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952754</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;When elite institutions - a cable television network or a medical corporation, for instance - intentionally incite extra-legal or illegal mob action and even violence, what should we call it? And what should be done about it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) “Inciting to Violence”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) “Criminal Syndicalism”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) “Making Terrorist Threats”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prosecute.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When elite institutions &#8211; a cable television network or a medical corporation, for instance &#8211; intentionally incite extra-legal or illegal mob action and even violence, what should we call it? And what should be done about it?</p>
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<p>1) “Inciting to Violence”</p>
<p>2) “Criminal Syndicalism”</p>
<p>3) “Making Terrorist Threats”</p>
<p>Prosecute.</p>
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		<title>By: pjack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952686</link>
		<dc:creator>pjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;careful what you say. the Snitch Czar may be listening&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>careful what you say. the Snitch Czar may be listening</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952674</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great letter. I wish all the baby cornyns would read it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great letter. I wish all the baby cornyns would read it.</p>
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		<title>By: pjack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952666</link>
		<dc:creator>pjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The real issue is how to reign in the AMA as that is where&lt;br /&gt;
most of our expense is&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue is how to reign in the AMA as that is where<br />
most of our expense is</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Fish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952629</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The question now becomes: Will the corporate media who have been flogging the “discontented constituents” meme be smart enuff or even allowed to report on the steam running out of the movement?  Have any of them other than maybe KO and Rachel bothered to mention the admonitions to “carry” to these most American of political events?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question now becomes: Will the corporate media who have been flogging the “discontented constituents” meme be smart enuff or even allowed to report on the steam running out of the movement?  Have any of them other than maybe KO and Rachel bothered to mention the admonitions to “carry” to these most American of political events?</p>
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		<title>By: joelmael</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952626</link>
		<dc:creator>joelmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“And then, of course, there is racism. Their world is turned upside down by the presence of a non-white president.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think what happens is their white guilt,  that I think nearly all of us white people carry but are mostly unaware of, is stimulated.   This is implied by our vehement insistance that ‘I didn’t do slavery and Jim Crow, why am I blamed?  When, in fact, no one is currently blaming them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“And then, of course, there is racism. Their world is turned upside down by the presence of a non-white president.”</p>
<p>I think what happens is their white guilt,  that I think nearly all of us white people carry but are mostly unaware of, is stimulated.   This is implied by our vehement insistance that ‘I didn’t do slavery and Jim Crow, why am I blamed?  When, in fact, no one is currently blaming them.</p>
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		<title>By: barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Had to leave for a bit.  Gonna be EPU’d big time here.  Michele Bachmann, ya, you betcha we got a big problem in the Sixth District.  But Tarryl Clark is planning to take her on.  As is so often the case, however, Clark is a well-known name amongst Dem worker bees; not so much in “out there” land, near as I can tell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clark is a very savvy state senator who’s the assistant majority leader.  Bachmann eked out a victory (re-election; WTF were those people THINKING?) in 2008 against the unfortunately named Elwyn Tinklenberg, whom many believed to be a principled and capable adversary for Michele Belle.  Tinklenberg recently announced his intention to run again, and more recently, dropped out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recently read that Michele Belle is on the NCRR’s endangered species list (I don’t remember their euphemism for that).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So all of this is by way of saying we are hopeful that MB’s days as the laughing-stock of Congress are drawing to a close.  Then she and Sarah Palin can pal around, doing bobble-head-speak wherever anyone will have them.  St. Louis Zoo, maybe?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to leave for a bit.  Gonna be EPU’d big time here.  Michele Bachmann, ya, you betcha we got a big problem in the Sixth District.  But Tarryl Clark is planning to take her on.  As is so often the case, however, Clark is a well-known name amongst Dem worker bees; not so much in “out there” land, near as I can tell.</p>
<p>Clark is a very savvy state senator who’s the assistant majority leader.  Bachmann eked out a victory (re-election; WTF were those people THINKING?) in 2008 against the unfortunately named Elwyn Tinklenberg, whom many believed to be a principled and capable adversary for Michele Belle.  Tinklenberg recently announced his intention to run again, and more recently, dropped out.</p>
<p>I recently read that Michele Belle is on the NCRR’s endangered species list (I don’t remember their euphemism for that).</p>
<p>So all of this is by way of saying we are hopeful that MB’s days as the laughing-stock of Congress are drawing to a close.  Then she and Sarah Palin can pal around, doing bobble-head-speak wherever anyone will have them.  St. Louis Zoo, maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/09/corporate-vigilantism-failing-but-still-dangerous/#comment-1952622</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In connection with the Jefferson quote reacting to Shay’s Rebellion, his friend Madison said: “Liberty may be endangered by the abuses of liberty as well as by the abuses of power.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somewhat on topic, I wrote a letter to Cornyn on Friday which recognized that he would opposed my view, listed the many instances through our history of successful federal actions, from internal improvements to Medicare, and ended with the following:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Accordingly, I ask that you, as an educated, civic minded, public servant,  refrain from using loaded terms, such as “socialism.”   As you know, federal, state, and local governments have always served the function of pooling the funds of citizens to provide the services necessary to realize the stated purposes of the Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moreover, in light of recent development, I would ask that you publically discourage the kind of hooliganism which has been employed lately to disrupt the free exchange of ideas at congressional listening sessions.  You and anyone who truly believes in representative government have to be embarrassed and ashamed that anyone professing to care about our form of government would use tactics most often accompanying the rise of despotism.  Finally, I know you understand that no plan under consideration will encourage elderly citizens (of which I am one) to end their lives, promote public funding of abortion, or would institute health care “rationing” to any greater extent than do the  current “high option plans” and “low option plans” available through private insurance companies.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess he hadn’t read it yet by Saturday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In connection with the Jefferson quote reacting to Shay’s Rebellion, his friend Madison said: “Liberty may be endangered by the abuses of liberty as well as by the abuses of power.”</p>
<p>Somewhat on topic, I wrote a letter to Cornyn on Friday which recognized that he would opposed my view, listed the many instances through our history of successful federal actions, from internal improvements to Medicare, and ended with the following:</p>
<p>“Accordingly, I ask that you, as an educated, civic minded, public servant,  refrain from using loaded terms, such as “socialism.”   As you know, federal, state, and local governments have always served the function of pooling the funds of citizens to provide the services necessary to realize the stated purposes of the Constitution.</p>
<p>Moreover, in light of recent development, I would ask that you publically discourage the kind of hooliganism which has been employed lately to disrupt the free exchange of ideas at congressional listening sessions.  You and anyone who truly believes in representative government have to be embarrassed and ashamed that anyone professing to care about our form of government would use tactics most often accompanying the rise of despotism.  Finally, I know you understand that no plan under consideration will encourage elderly citizens (of which I am one) to end their lives, promote public funding of abortion, or would institute health care “rationing” to any greater extent than do the  current “high option plans” and “low option plans” available through private insurance companies.”</p>
<p>I guess he hadn’t read it yet by Saturday.</p>
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