I say plainly that every American who takes part in the action of a mob or gives it any sort of countenance is no true son of this great Democracy, but its betrayer, and does more to discredit her by that single disloyalty to her standards of law and of right than the words of her statesman or the sacrifices of her heroic boys in the trenches can do to make suffering peoples believe her to be their savior.
– Woodrow Wilson, "A Statement to the American People," July 26, 1918
When elite institutions – a cable television network or a medical corporation, for instance – intentionally incite extra-legal or illegal mob action and even violence, what should we call it? And what should be done about it?
This is, without question, what FOX News is doing, mobilizing some sad and ill-informed viewers to attend and disrupt the summer health care forums of Democrats. The disgraced health care fraudster Rick Scott, a guy protecting his storefront quack clinics behind a fake grassroots group, "Conservatives for Patients’ Rights," is doing the same thing. And Scott’s bragging about it. The national Republican Party is helping.
This is Corporate Vigilantism. It’s different than corporations’ long established practice of hiring private corporate armies and police (Pinkerton; Blackwater) to murder union members or rape those bothersome to a company’s bottom line. And, while some of the steam seems to be going out of this fake movement, it sets a terrible and dangerous precedent. The vigilante sponsors must be called to account.
Here’s how a famous 1974 paper, "An Analysis of Establishment Violence" defined "vigilantism":
"It consists of acts or threats of coercion in violation of the formal boundaries of an established sociopolitical order which, however, are intended by the violators to defend that order from some form of subversion."
Vigilantism is all about preserving the status quo, and it’s more likely to erupt in a time of declining resources, even if the blossoming vigilantes current expectations are being met. You don’t have to buy a shotgun or a noose to be a vigilante. I think "threats" and "coercion" are key words in the above definition, and they certainly fit the activities of the anti-healthcare reform vigilantes.
And notice the ugly paradox. Vigilantes violate the moral and legal foundations of a community in order to protect those moral and legal foundations. Now, this is not the motivation of the corporate backers of this new vigilantism. They simply want to make more money off the death and suffering of Americans who can’t afford adequate health care or insurance. But these corporations are mobilizing roving mobs of vigilantes to hide behind, and these misguided Americans, who have been scared witless by corporate lies, do believe they are defending something dear and precious to them.
That precious something might be the supremacy of whites threatened by a non-white president. It might be privileged access to health care or insurance. It might just be the conviction that everything Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh says is true and patriotic and worth acting upon.
I attended U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett’s health care town hall on Saturday. There were vigilantes present, though self-described insurance company executives circulated among them. Doggett did a good job, but there was something of the unreal to the noontime gathering. Maybe it was the 100-degree heat.
There were 150 or so people gathered in the street outside the CommunityCare Rundberg Health Center in near northeast Austin. A healthy majority were Doggett backers and supporters of reform. Maybe there were 40 protestors. There was a childhood health screening underway, inside and outside the facility. That was one of the peculiar things: wide-eyed children and their parents, waiting for health care, watching sometimes heated and abstract arguments about health care.
And the arguments were only "sometimes" and even less-often heated. It was like the vigil- was disappearing from the -antes.
These vigilantes were, for the most part, 50-plus-year-old white men. Their many life grievances were etched in their faces. But, as Cynthia Kouril wrote at FDL yesterday, some steam has gone out of this fake movement. What was left in the Doggett event were just hot and sweaty people standing in the August heat in the middle of the one of the worst droughts in Texas history.
The sponsors forgot to bring water, so some friends and I bought cases of bottled water at a nearby store and fanned out through the crowd, handing out water to health care reformers and vigilantes alike. I even gave a bottle to Sen. John Cornyn, who walked by me on the way to his car.
That was another odd thing. Cornyn, the Republican junior senator from Texas, crashed Doggett’s party. But, near as I could tell, he stayed hidden indoors, talked to a couple of reporters, and left before Doggett arrived. Can we say, not senatorial?
I listened to some of the arguments among the attendees. There were simply no arguments to refute from the vigilantes. It was weird. They booed, they shouted, they got red in the face, they mumbled knowingly to one another. Life has been unfair to them, I guess. So they’ve come out to make sure it’s unfair to everyone else.
Despite their ineffectiveness, the vigilantes’ corporate backers need to be called out for what is extraordinarily anti-democratic and unpatriotic behavior. As Woodrow Wilson said of his era’s vigilantes, they are betrayers of Democracy.
It is no small thing to encourage violence – by direct recommendation or implication – in our shared political sphere. For corporations to engage in such behavior simply to make another buck takes national betrayal to a whole other level. It can’t get any more un-American than that.
Related posts:
- Corporate Supremacy and the Rape of a Human Girl
- Why You Might Never Get Quality Affordable Health Insurance: The Dangerous Lack of Robust Risk Adjustment
- Come Saturday Morning: Right-Wing Corporate Lies about Water
- Lloyd Doggett Takes the Pledge — 11 Down, 29 to Go
- David Brooks Weeps/Shills for America’s Tortured Corporate Titans





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The consolidation of the liberal media in just a few hands needs to be undone. Break up those entities so the conservatives can have a chance to own some of them and get THEIR message out to the voters.
Can we say he was there not to discuss healthcare but coordinate the teabaggers?
Were you home schooled?
He certainly wanted the teabaggers to think that, but he didn’t do much more than run to his car with a frozen smile on his face. He had trouble coordinating his own exit.
Clearchannel owner of Rush Limbaugh is laying off people and losing money nobody is buying radio ads but Rush is still getting paid.
Fox New bought the Wallstreet Journal I think they used their stock as collateral for the bank oan that stock has since gone down allot think what happened to Enron as the stock went down the banks asked for more money so Enron had to sell more stock.
I wonder why this has not happened yet? Any bank insiders got that story?
Good one Mr/Ms toe,
I wondered if snark needs to be labeled here on the lake.
Why the frozen smile if his protest plans were going well? Or if he wanted the Tea Baggers to think they were his protest plans?
Glenn, this needs to get legs. We have co-opted the tea-bagger meme, which sounds benign though it is anything but. I really believe we need to spend the balance of this summer (and perhaps beyond) naming the goons and goonesses “vigilantes.” It’s a brilliant re-framing, and one of which George Lakoff might be proud. If that’s not enough for ya, then dammit, I’m proud!
Snark tag is /s at the end of the snark sentence not everyone uses it all the time but on the questionable stuff its a good idea.
A troll got ‘the fitz?’ I’m outraged!
I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEAD
This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity
generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S.
Department of Energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water
utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to
see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic
and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be
like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration.
I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of
Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been
determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept
accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the
U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads
build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation,
possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level
determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender
issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.
On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via
the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.
After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks
to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and
the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another
two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my
NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned
down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and
Fire Marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its
valuables thanks to the local police department.
And then I log on to the internet — which was developed by the
Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration — and post on
Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine
is BAD because the government can’t do anything right.
Thanks. As George would tell you, proper and effective framing is always TRUE. It’s never a matter of spin, though framing is often mistaken for that, since conservative lies are so ubiquitous.
Anyway, in this case, the academic definition of “vigilante” fits (to a perfectly frightening degree):
No empathy for others they are in a tough economic situation as we all are. They can’t believe this plan will cost less and that only the rich will be taxed.
Its Snark no troll hunting…yet the day is still young though.
The plans weren’t going well. From Cornyn’s perspective, it was a nightmare. First, there was a very well attended health screening for poor and middle class kids going on. Empathy was in the air. That makes the Cornyns of the world very uncomfortable. But it also made violent protest impossible. It made political grandstanding impossible.
Then there was the sagging morale of the anti-reform vigilantes. They really weren’t into it. Like I said, Cornyn remained isolated from the crowd until he left, racing to his car. Very bizarre.
Since my little rant was bought even here on the lake I now must make a sign and join up with a gaggle of baggers. Think they would catch on? Oh oh, I forget they are armed now, better not.
Social Security and Medicare were based on the idea of social insurance – which meant, in part, that social and economic security were best protected by affirmative government action based on the idea of equal rights. (That idea, of course, was undermined when they were launched by the policy details which often were based on racial and gender exclusion.) But Democrats stopped defending these popular programs in those terms – instead, discussions of these programs revolve almost entirely around the self-interests of older people. They know those programs are threatened, and they fear that efforts to help other groups will undermine what they have – a position that makes perfect sense if you begin with a zero sum interest based view of politics. (Of course, this also requires ignoring that Republicans pose the greater threat to these programs, but since Democrats often echo Republican concern trolling on this issue, it’s not surprising that the Republicans escape blame.) If Democrats would make the case, consistently and clearly, for why reform would protect all of us, for how it would strengthen the protections the elderly already enjoy, for how we can have a politics based on something more, I suspect the ranks of the enraged would dwindle. Doing that does not mean only when confronted, say at a town hall meeting. It means day in day out, in communications to constituents, on tv, etc. The alternative view has been being pushed for decades – it will take a lot of work to undo it. Critiquing the other side is important, but the positive case has to be made as well. It’s here that reform efforts have been severely lacking.
Not only that but there were no planes that fell on your house because of routing provided by FAA
That’s right. “Others” are to be blamed, not understood or empathized with.
Your observation is so right. Despite their extremism, I noticed handing out water that these guys (they were almost all guys) got just as thirsty as the rest of us and were just as glad someone would bring them water as anybody. But they simply could see we are all in the same boat. It’s a willful blindness, to be sure. And racism, as I said, is implicated.
Nonetheless, the picture you get is of anti-reform vigilantes screaming, “Don’t you dare improve my health!”
There is no healthcare debate. We have Republicans who are crazy and angry, who don’t want change but are pissed at the ways things are. And we have Democrats who are competing to see who can sell out more to corporations, whether banks or insurers. So it is that we have fake manufactured Republican outrage at fake manufactured Democratic townhall meetings. No one is talking about a real affordable healthcare system for Americans.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Glen W. Smithand the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Ah once again Brother Smith captures an idea, carefully polishes its impenetrable shell of truth and throws it on our Sunday alter of discourse to illuminate one of the realities of our lives and reinforce our connectedness.
Please see my little post that was EPU’d at end of the last thread… and bless your pure heart and extrodinary talent, once again my Sunday efforts in the garden are gunna be a bit less stressed.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION AND RECOGNIZE YOUR FRIENDS!!
Thanks, Glenn. It’s encouraging to see that some of the enthusiasm for the disruptors is waning. I think that at least some of them allowed themselves to get whipped into a frenzy by the astroturf groups, but after a bit of reflection and seeing just how stupid they look on TV trying to disrupt conversations among their neighbors, they are backing down.
The problem I see remaining is that the primary organizers/agitators still have not disowned these tactics and called for an end to them. That leaves things open for the truly deranged among their followers to do something that will result in tragedy. It’s time for the Secret Service or Federal Marshals to step in and file charges against groups that are fomenting violence against sitting members of Congress.
Let me guess he got the press there but he saw the kids white kids I presume and decided that a violent protest would look bad for the camera.
I bet if the kids were not there he planned to lead the protest.
You are right, right, right. Democrats need to speak their values and invest the message with forthright, emotional appeal. The lame, actuarial and mind-numbing process/policy recitations do nothing to persuade or inform.
For the uniniated,what does EPU’ed mean?
Mostly Hispanic kids, but you are still right. Children are magic that way.
Lizard brain response emotion trumps reason as long as they stay angry.
That’s what my Dad said this morning over breakfast – all it would take is for some very public arrests of a few of the more vocal vigilantes who have threatened Congressmen and/or the President, and the whole thing will grind to a halt.
I stand corrected happily a lot of GOPers would have considered that a bonus. I’m glad nothing happened.
Citizen joelmael:
Thanks for stopping by, now go back under the bridge before the sun and the intelligence on this site fry up your last remainin’ brain cell.
EPU’d
http://www.urbandictionary.com…..?term=EPUd
The GOPers won’t catch on.
Your description of the protesters jibes with those of others we see here and in the paper and on tv. It looks like a group of older citizens whose energy levels are low so that hopping up and bellowing is about the most they can do. They don’t seem to have actual arguments, see Foothillsmike’s description of the talking points from the Bill of Rights, and they don’t have any actual knowledge of the terms of the bills, let alone the economics of the situation.
What I can’t figure out is why they are so anxious to defend corporate interests. How is it that they are able to ignore the evidence of the destruction wreaked on their lives by the banksters and outsourcers and the financial elites?
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Big Medicine: Corporate Personhood
The second is a broader referendum effort to revoke corporate personhood rights state-wide. The proposed language for this initiative will be presented here …
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http://www.kickthemallout.com/……..Personhood – Cached – Similar
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http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/changes.htm – Cached – Similar
Corporate personhood to be challenged
The Patrick Henry Democratic Club will be voting on two resolutions to revoke corporate personhood at tonight’s meeting. …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/…..all… – Cached – Similar
I want to add something I wish I’d put in the body of the essay:
Please notice how the Civil Rights Movement specifically and with discipline refrained from violence and threats or acts of coercion. A major difference between authentic social/political protest and vigilantism is that the former speaks truth to power, as the saying goes. The truth is subverted by the latter.
Also, there is no moral paradox. Martin Luther King was explicit about this. The Civil Rights Movement reinforced morality. It did not subvert it to “protect” it.
Citizen Spotts:
No, your Dad is wrong…that’s the only thing that could give these few bullies a distracting issue of “censorship” and “police state”…this whole “movement” is doomed to die out with a whimper if we don’t give ‘em any explosive non-issues to go out with a bang.
Evil Parallel Universe got into the Urban Dictionary Cool! Has anyone seen EPU lately? We should tell him/her the news.
Good point. When things got ugly in the election, McCain (but not the nutter Palin) took prompt, if grudging, action to stem the vicious attacks on Obama.
The repubs are out of control now, and there isn’t anyone to call a halt.
Named after a poster “evilparalleluniverse” who’s comments at the end of the line ofter got unnoticed.
“Were you home schooled?”
And are you a profiler mentality? Because it pisses me off to be slammed by smug comments from thoughtless people.
A homeschool mom
Because Obama is Black and they assume healthcare will use their money to help black people. its Reagan’s Caddy Driving Chicago Welfare Queen all over again.
Citizen Gitcheegumee:
“EPU” stands for a former FDLer who went by the handle of Evil Parallel Universe who seemed to always post a grand and extensive comment at the end of a thread.
There are many reasons. First, they are acting in their self-interest as they see it. That their observations and beliefs don’t square with reality may be deadly in the end doesn’t alter their inability to see the world accurately.
They have a lot of help maintaining the flawed picture, of course. And then, of course, there is racism. Their world is turned upside down by the presence of a non-white president.
Most of the people at these rallies are middle age and seniors who
fear that an expansion of medicare will dilute their coverage,
as more people will be added to an increasingly taxed system.
The people who are disruptive are distracting from the real issue
of making health care for all
Thanks to all who responded.
Apparently I am a perpetual EPUr.
Has someone taken this screen name yet..perhaps I should change mine.
If EPU is taken,perhaps I could use ALTTP…always last to the party-as my recent EPU comments on Gonzales at EW ,attest.
If we could interview a bunch of them on camera and ask them subtly about whats in the bill. Then put it on you tube it would be hilarious when after each answer we splice in what is actually in the bill.
We close the video with Jon Steward viewers still better informed about the issues than Fox News Viewers.
Sorry my 46 was for you.
Former is he/she ok or just been away for awhile?
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Go with “LakeSuperior.”
Don’t forget blames other people for their problems.
How about Ghandi?
The original still shows up from time to time and appreciates the legends that have grown from the name.
I don’t understand.
Ummm, not to nitpick, but did you mean “pro-lifer?”
Of course. A hero and model to King and others in civil disobedience, which is the very opposite of vigilantism. Gandhi recognized this, as did King. They each made the difference explicit. So, by the way, did the Eastern European movements against communist totalitarianism. In Czechoslovakia, Vaclav Havel and others were very, very explicit.
“How is it that they are able to ignore the evidence of the destruction wreaked on their lives by the banksters and outsourcers and the financial elites?”
Fox and Rush do not let them see that evidence or if they do present it, they turn it upside down. Recently on a local news in Sacramento. “X corporation is spending one and a half million on lobbying for health care reform”
Currently visiting a foxer rellie. I watched Fox with her and commented only positively on something French said. Then she handed me the remote. I treated her to 2 hours of Keith and Rachel. After some early grousing, she settled down and watched a lot of it- which surprised me. A bit later I commented. “it’s a different world depending on which station you watch isn’t it”? She agreed. Well it’s a start I am pleased with.
We’re gonna have to arm-wrestle for this title! *g*
Or, as Garrison Keillor maintains is the way of speaking in Lake Wobegon,
“Lake Pretty Darn Good.”
My two cents on the matter
As a Medicare recipient I can say that would be a legitimate area of concern. Coverage under Medicare is already rationed. In the past I have cited an example in which my 85-year old aunt sustained a fractured left arm and a dislocated right shoulder. She was completely helpless but because Medicare designates arm fractures and dislocated shoulders as only requiring outpatient treatment, the hospital refused to admit her.
“This is an Ojibwe Indian name for Lake Superior – also called “Kitchi gami” (or “Kitchi-gummi”). According to many, It means “the shining blue sea water.”, but has also been translated as “great water.”
(Ojibwe Indians = Chippewas)
What I can’t figure out is why they are so anxious to defend corporate interests. How is it that they are able to ignore the evidence of the destruction wreaked on their lives by the banksters and outsourcers and the financial elites?——————————–
“The greatest trick the Devil EVER pulled was to convince some people that he doesn’t exist.”…..”The Usual Suspects”
It is the corporate interests; hospitals, physicians, Rx companies
insurance companies that are taking care of them
Thank you so much for that.
I didn’t know that.
But seeing as how I am not from that area ,the inference from using that handle could indicate an arrogant and unwarranted sense of superiority on my part.
Were the Vietnam War protesters unpatriotic?
Woodrow Wilson was a piece of shit, who brought us the Federal Reserve. Wilson sold out our national sovereignty.
Thomas Jefferson is much more credible on the issue of patriotism:
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure.”
And I’m a disappointed Obama supporter, if that matters at all.
Sorry, Barb — missed your comment. You, of all people, would know the origins of Gitchee……
Please see earlier comments at 35 and 56. There is a radical difference between vigilantism and civil disobedience aimed at achieving or restoring democracy. The difference has nothing to do with the merits of Woodrow Wilson. The quote comes from a statement he gave after some Americans hanged a German-American just because he was a German-American.
I like Jefferson, too.
No, I meant the type of easy thinking that allows profiles of stock images of social groups. It’s acceptable to mock homeschoolers on most sites.
I’m tired of it. We aren’t all the same.
As a son, I am noticing this lake appears to be liberally endowed with Minnesotans.
What’s a fair share? Is it time to worry?
Two things. First, it’s not fair to say that coverage under Medicare is already rationed – the issue is that coverage in general is rationed (even leaving aside people with no insurance.) No insurance pays for everything, and rising costs are making the problem worse across the board. Second, the only way to improve the situation is to get more people, especially healthy people, into the pool, to spread the risk around. Adding people will better manage the risk and reduce rationing.
Joelmael is not a troll, Norske. He/she needed a /s tag is all.
It’s a him – and believe me – he knows.
“And that’s all I have to say about that” (h/t Forrest Gump)
Lake Superiority, and it’s okay. I don’t live near the lake, but a large portion of it is in my state. I share. You share. We all share.
heh – I wonder if there is/should be some probationary period before snark tags come to be just commonly understood.
tough for newcomers to master, maybe…..
(and I try to always welcome newcomers)
on edit: I didn’t say that terribly well, did I?
Nope. Michigander. It’s a big lake.
Hey! You’re talking about my people! In what is arguably the bluest state, so no surprise we’re drawn to this lake, too!! *g*
A couple of days ago, I posted about Rahm Emmanuels brother,Ezekiel Emmanuel on another thread.
He is working with Orsagz and creating input for health care reform legislation.
I posted links-but I don’t recall the thread.
Today,at Democratic Underground, there is a thread about Zeke Emmanuel and the input,as a bio ethcitist ,he has contributed to the health care reform debate.
It is worth a trip,imho,as much of his input is being used by slobbyists and Repubes as the basis for their kill grandma scare tactics and rhetoric.
Isn’t that the tribe Gordon Lightfoot mentioned in The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald?
Dude !!
You’ve been here even longer than me. surely it should be “RetirinInOne” by now?
There are a couple of parody trolls over at Steve Benen’s place that routinely rope in even frequent commenters. It’s pretty funny when it happens, which is several times a week.
I hear you, and I will not snark you again. Well, not today, anyway. *g* Peace!
Yep. But the Chippewas were much more than a local tribe. They were spread throughout Ontario, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and points westward.
Back at ya, Dude!
Actually, I lost my job thirteen months ago so I guess I’m already retired, albeit, with extreme prejudice. The magic ss year of 62 is only thirteen months off, though. We think we can make it.
And for the record — outed myself in the fall of 2005. Came for the Plame. Stayed for the Snark.
aka Ojibway and Anishinabe, I think.
I like your use of “profiler”. I had to read it twice also. It’s neater than ’stereotyper’ and carries the current connotation from unfair law enforcement. Effective, I think.
Peace back at ya!
Anishinabe — self-description for Ottawas, Chippewas, and Algonquins.
Could you please do something about that Bachman then? Please???
Everyone pays into the system, no one is denied
coverage.
The real task at hand is how to bring
down the cost. It has to be affordable
Barbara,
I considered, ‘overrun with’, ‘infested with’, settled on ‘liberally endowed with’.
Math teachers insist ’show your work’, not always a good idea.
Minnesota Blue? Was when I left, dunno what happened. Back big time now thanks to all you Franken workers.
Another Blow To Public Option:
Durbin Open To Dropping It
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..54961.html
In connection with the Jefferson quote reacting to Shay’s Rebellion, his friend Madison said: “Liberty may be endangered by the abuses of liberty as well as by the abuses of power.”
Somewhat on topic, I wrote a letter to Cornyn on Friday which recognized that he would opposed my view, listed the many instances through our history of successful federal actions, from internal improvements to Medicare, and ended with the following:
“Accordingly, I ask that you, as an educated, civic minded, public servant, refrain from using loaded terms, such as “socialism.” As you know, federal, state, and local governments have always served the function of pooling the funds of citizens to provide the services necessary to realize the stated purposes of the Constitution.
Moreover, in light of recent development, I would ask that you publically discourage the kind of hooliganism which has been employed lately to disrupt the free exchange of ideas at congressional listening sessions. You and anyone who truly believes in representative government have to be embarrassed and ashamed that anyone professing to care about our form of government would use tactics most often accompanying the rise of despotism. Finally, I know you understand that no plan under consideration will encourage elderly citizens (of which I am one) to end their lives, promote public funding of abortion, or would institute health care “rationing” to any greater extent than do the current “high option plans” and “low option plans” available through private insurance companies.”
I guess he hadn’t read it yet by Saturday.
Had to leave for a bit. Gonna be EPU’d big time here. Michele Bachmann, ya, you betcha we got a big problem in the Sixth District. But Tarryl Clark is planning to take her on. As is so often the case, however, Clark is a well-known name amongst Dem worker bees; not so much in “out there” land, near as I can tell.
Clark is a very savvy state senator who’s the assistant majority leader. Bachmann eked out a victory (re-election; WTF were those people THINKING?) in 2008 against the unfortunately named Elwyn Tinklenberg, whom many believed to be a principled and capable adversary for Michele Belle. Tinklenberg recently announced his intention to run again, and more recently, dropped out.
I recently read that Michele Belle is on the NCRR’s endangered species list (I don’t remember their euphemism for that).
So all of this is by way of saying we are hopeful that MB’s days as the laughing-stock of Congress are drawing to a close. Then she and Sarah Palin can pal around, doing bobble-head-speak wherever anyone will have them. St. Louis Zoo, maybe?
“And then, of course, there is racism. Their world is turned upside down by the presence of a non-white president.”
I think what happens is their white guilt, that I think nearly all of us white people carry but are mostly unaware of, is stimulated. This is implied by our vehement insistance that ‘I didn’t do slavery and Jim Crow, why am I blamed? When, in fact, no one is currently blaming them.
The question now becomes: Will the corporate media who have been flogging the “discontented constituents” meme be smart enuff or even allowed to report on the steam running out of the movement? Have any of them other than maybe KO and Rachel bothered to mention the admonitions to “carry” to these most American of political events?
The real issue is how to reign in the AMA as that is where
most of our expense is
Great letter. I wish all the baby cornyns would read it.
careful what you say. the Snitch Czar may be listening
1) “Inciting to Violence”
2) “Criminal Syndicalism”
3) “Making Terrorist Threats”
Prosecute.
In 1980, I knew a woman on welfare who voted for Reagan, because he would “get rid of the welfare queens” and then there by more money for her and people like her.
GitcheeGoomie is Lake Superior.