Apparently Glenn Beck was either forced, or decided, to tell the maniacs that form a large portion of his audience NOT TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE. So he’s preemptively washed his hands.
But let’s face the great lie of American history and the on-going threat to the nation’s first black President. If you were a progressive in the 1960s, or if you are just a progressive with a sense of history you know what the last two generations were like. John Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, three iconic liberal figures — all gunned down. The current occupant of the office faces this:
Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President’s Secret Service.
In the first six plus months of the Obama Administration we’ve seen several murders committed by various right-wing extremists. A fringe group of nuts get media attention over an obvious fraud claiming Obama isn’t actually "an American" enabled by Lou Dobbs and others so it has become an article of faith among the Republican base. We’ve seen an entire broadcast network enable all manner of incitement to riot and shout down reasoned debate.
In April, when a report on the threat of right-wing violence was forthcoming it was stopped by the screams of conservative media. Only to see the reality of the murders of police, physicians and others who were at the right-place at the wrong time. So what do we get now from our media? Oh, those extremist on the right, they’re just like left-wing activists, following the long tradition of well, lying.
No they’re not.
Folks like Glenn Beck are sowing the winds, but it is the rest of us that will reap the whirlwind.
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I think there might be a few words missing in this sentence.
Good night/good morning.
FunnyWheelieDiva
Yeah, a few things. Fixed. Thanks.
Behold Republican patriotism. Unfit to govern? Heck, they’re unfit to walk the streets without their maintenance doses of Thorazine.
From last night
This on FDL, wft?
From the Flagpole
Any bets the shooter in Pittsburgh was a gun nut? Will Fox play down the story or will they claim he was not a listener/watcher of hate radio/tv?
Will they make that claim before the police officially report on the subject?
Ratfood said something that got that response? AngelsAwake I don’t know too much. But I will vouch for Ratfood.
Hates taxes but first in line for the benefits typical.
No, AA was raging about the President.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6917
No the problem is the wingers are talking shit trying to start a fight. They are pushing their crazies to handle things with guns. Sheesh lose at the ballot box so try and take power with guns instead.
I would like the FBI to do something. Or should I buy a gun?
Um, that’s not the best question to ask her methinks?
Ok Ratfood was not involved it didn’t sound like Ratfood.
Nah, AA wanted to get all up in my face and shit. I walked to dogs instead, pickin up dog shit was better than that conversation.
Mika? Jane? Don’t worry I’m not buying one unless there are more right wing shootings.
But Glen says he is not inciting the shootings so I’m sure this statistical anomaly will pass soon.
Random events tend to cluster right like the random events that brought about the banking collapse. (they were not quite so random the math models were cooked to produce certain results)
Still Glen wants to play rough sometimes you have to show some teeth.
I think I came in the tail end of that yesterday. Guy just having a being a jerk day or is he a troll?
Ha! Prices are wayyy up.
Beats me. Fucking punk either way.
Gun prices?, Inflation? (food I noticed), Bank stock prices I don’t trust their books I’d short them but they would probably get bailed out, that and I don’t short stocks.
Gotcha I’ll try and remember to watch out and not give him/her the benefit of the doubt.
Artillery is way up, the socialists are gonna take your guns so they can kill granny.
I thought he reeked of troll, and a particularly smelly one. Someone (I forget who now, not enough caffeine yet) took him to school about folks not to be messed with. Your name came up, as I recall.
Ah well, gotta move on.
http://www.mysterypollster.com…..n_bre.html
Nice catch Attaturk I swear I did not read your link before I wrote my comment at 6
Think it was Norske:)
Hooookayyy…
The Freeper Birthers are claiming that the Bomford Oz Birth Certificate is not the template for theirs. Yep…they blow the one claim out of the water that the 47O43 number is an inside joke that they should have caught. “We are not stupid,” they scream. “Sure we FIRST thought it was 47O43…but we now think it’s 47643 . You see we have this photonegative techniue…the one that showed the Shroud of Turin was real. nd it’s showing us this is real, too.”
[BTW “47O43″ does not appear on the BOMFORD BC- on that document it is “2″…although all the other numbers, including the book and registry page numbers are identical]
Then they go on about how “EF Lavender” is actually “GF Lavender”…except there too, the Bomford BC doesn’t say EF Lavender…ohh..what does it say…my oh my…”GF Lavender”.
Then, although I’m no expert on this, the photoreverse imaging shows distinctive “panelling” around the Kenya Seal and other features on the document. Now maybe this is an effect of the printing process and not photo-shopping…but what is also very clear is that the same effects are obvious around the typed in information.
Why would that be? Why would typed info on a blank page have this “ghost” pannelling effect around it? I can’t think of any reason other than either a photoshop effect (erasure/drop-in text) or physical erasure of a document with retyping. Take a look.
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo…..8553/posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Colson
Chuck Colson blogs at Townhall so he’s still lying.
Guess that Christian Prison Fellowship didn’t work. What part of thou shall not lie (even if it helps your side don’t you get Chuck?)
I hope they keep bringing this up so we can keep knocking it down. Obama’s mom was a citizen any illegal immigrant can tell you marry a citizen and the kids are legal.
Good morning, pups! It’s Dowd and Friedman today. How unfortunate that it was MoDo’s turn at bat after Pres. Clinton brought Laura Lee and Euna Ling home. In “Let the Big Dog Run” she says Kim Jong-il’s bright smiles were not returned by Bill Clinton. Yet the grinning North Korean and stony-faced American were no doubt savoring their moment of mutual relevance. She’s managed to trivialize the journalists’ release and be supremely catty, and of course couldn’t resist some of her patented created dialog crap. Somehow she managed to avoid taking a swipe at Al Gore, so I suppose that’s good… The Moustache of Wisdom is in Ramallah, on the West Bank. In “Green Shoots in Palestine” he says the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is where good and bad ideas get tested out. And the Palestinian prime minister is testing out the most exciting new idea in Arab governance ever.
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, the cold drinks are in the fridge, and I’ve got apple walnut muffins. TCU, you’re right. Norske was the one who smacked the troll down, and mentioned Raven by name. Tejanarusa schooled him some. It was also interesting to see Balrog’s name again. Have a great day.
Looked at the link the pictures they claim prove what they say were blurry I could not tell either way.
Also Koz had a few more arguments at his site that this post is not addressing like the birth certificate was given before Kenya was independent and wrote birth certificates like that.
And the city of birth was not part of Kenya at the time. Also the paper seems in very good shape acid in paper turns my old book pages yellow and I am younger than Obama.
That birth certificate is not yellow.
I can’t help but wonder… How long do we think it will be before someone at Faux News or at National Review or some such wonders snidely whether Pres. Clinton went to get those girls because, well, you know, after all, he is the Clenis?
..And God forbid we have sensible gun laws. Here’s the best article I’ve seen regarding our leaders desire to have everyone armed:
They want guns in our parks, carried across state lines, legalized assault weapons etc. They want guns everywhere except where they might suffer the consequences of their stupidity.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Modo trying to start a fight by being catty. I doubt Jimmy or Al care who gets the girls out so long as they are alright.
Richardson “Judas ” sorry his support is not the same as Mayor Daley in Chicago promising to deliver the vote.
The Hispanic vote went where it wanted to go. I doubt most of us could name 5 Hispanic leaders in politics nationally and none who’s word
we follow on who to vote for.
Don’t watch the news today I bet the wondering has already started.
I think it would make a nice t-shirt to bad you would get arrested real quick I think wearing that.
“Global media giant News Corporation is expected to report a 30 per cent fall in full year operating profit, driven by a downturn in the advertising market and the global economic crisis.
In the nine months to March 31, News Corp reported a 35 per cent fall in operating profit to $US2.53 billion ($A3.0 billion).”
That is the good estimate below other banks think the losess will be higher.
“Credit Suisse analysts are tipping News Corp’s full year operating profit to drop by 34 per cent to $US3.38 billion ($A4.0 billion), including restructuring charges.
“Newspapers, television and Sky Italia are all expected to be a drag on the result, while cable networks should be a bright spot,” Credit Suisse wrote in a client note.
RBS Equities expects News Corp to post a 35 per cent fall in full year operating profit to $US3.44 billion ($A4.08 billion), including restructuring charges.”
Anyone know when the banks that financed Rupert buying the Wallstreet Journal with stock will demand more stock as collateral because NewsCorp stock has gone down.
Or has that already happened?
Glen maybe more people would advertise on Fox if you were not pushing to get their customers shot?
They always do it. The equivalency bullshit. Mattews did it on Hardballz last night. Morning Joe today? Missed it. Birthers are no different than left wing loons. Um, no. Left wing loons don’t have cionsiderable -indeed, any – support in the halls of Congress as do the birthers. Jeez, we can’t even get support from our people for a public option never mind looney conspiracy theories or other bullshit.
Glen if you have to warn your followers not to shoot people after several Right Wing Nuts have shot people because one crazy could wreck everything you and your friends are working for.
Well your admitting then that you yourself think these shooters listen to you.
If you think you can get them to stop shooting then you admit you have the power to start them shooting.
Which given what you say I think you did just that.
Yeah we don’t have the Media backing us or our own gun nuts going on killing sprees.
We do have Code Pink who I think are funny, and a few 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
Come to think of it Tweety and Joe are protecting Glen Beck by claiming the Left is as bad as the Right I wonder if GE in addition to spiking stories is ordering certain stories?
The anger and violence are only going to worsen. The wingnuts are being whipped into a frenzy by the cheerleaders of the right . Beck , O’Reilly, Limbaugh and others are intent on fanning those flames ,to these knuckle draggers the recent acts of violence vindicate their arguments. These dregs of society would be happy to see the Country descend into total chaos , to prove that their ranting and ravings were justified.
As soon as one right wing hate monger is charged as an accessory to murder you can bet the others will temper their vitriol. Or there is the distinct possibility that baggers and birthers may one day wake up to the fact they’ve been taken for chumps by the corporations and the Republican Party and they may well then turn their guns on their former Svengali’s.
Ding, ding, ding. Jeez, ya think? It’s only a half step removed from censorship.
DING!
Mornin’, pups.
Hmmm we could just declare the tea baggers a violent terror group listen to their phone calls and arrest them all.
Fine I do state the obvious Allot:)
Never happen most people are loath to admit they were wrong , some folks would rather believe the dis-proven than admit they were wrong.
Might explain why large numbers of people still believe Iraq was involved in 9/11
Still getting the MSM to answer an obvious question like that is like pulling teeth. Getting a straight answer would require a subpoena and Fitz threatening to make sure Tweety gets sold at a Prison Prisoner auction.
Dude on Joe talkin about the cuts in Secret Service and the incredible increase in threats to the prez.
False equivalency is one of BigMedia/Repubs most common techniques. “Projection”-another fav-goes hand in hand with it. It seem robotic how often and when they apply these techniques. The facts make no difference.
And the BigMedia maven NEVER call them on it. In fact, they amplify these techniques to insane levels. We all gotta get more people to “Turn off, tune out, and drop in…” to places like FDL.
Does it seem he is happy about that? Is he linking the threats to what Fox News, Tea baggers, Racists or the Rich GOP money guys who finance all three?
Will future historians refer to America’s brownshirts as birthers and baggers?
Wrt the military starting to put some skids on the social networking sites used by soldiers, cue the reich wingers’ screams of “censorship!”. 3…..2…….1……To hell with the fact that they could maybe, possibly, probably contributing to security risks. Ya’know……like virus infections, etc. Interesting also the two pols who have released what was supposed to be classified info via social networking technology have been rethugs.
And, NO! I. am. not in favor of censorship but it sure is interesting how the wingers selectively determine what does (and doesn’t) contribute to security. Was reading something on another lefty blog about how could young submariners be expected to be separated for months at a time from communication with family and loved ones? Hmmmmmmmm, wonder how they managed to cope prior to the toobs?
Whose brilliant idea was it to cut the Secret Service?
And the racists, birthers and all others of their ilk are jumping up and down with glee and screaming, “Bring it on!”. :-(((
Well, way back in the dark ages in the 60s people used to write letters, and if you were married to a submariner you realized it might be months before you got a pile of them. Prehistoric, I know…
Making Gay Porn? The Navy should allow some women in subs.
Think I read the SS are now under homeland security…..if true, explains a lot.
The U.S. Secret Service has cut corners in ways that may have jeopardized the safety of President Obama, according to a new book by a veteran Washington journalist and author, Ron Kessler. The book, “In the President’s Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect,” details instances of “laxness in how they protect” Obama, according to a source at Random House, which will officially release the book Aug. 4
Yes
Were that to happen, it wouldn’t be gay porn they’d be making….just lots and lots of lit’ submariners. *g*
Oh, cripes. I hope the author doesn’t go into too much detail about where the security holes are. I’m sure there are any number of people ready to comb through the book with a nit comb looking for them.
It took the total destruction of Germany before many, if not most, of the German people realized they had chosen poorly.
And in 1967, the year I lived in Germany, I met more than a few who still weren’t sure…
The birthers and baggers should study a bit of history to see what happened to the brownshirts after the Nazi’s finally consolidated their power.
A little research has revealed Bush’s startling solution to the problem all female subs Lesbian Porn Films anyone?
http://www.subsim.com/new_york…..rticle.htm
The Spartans the best army in Greece were pro gay and they had all male units. However heterosexuals can’t handle the strain of being together in a sub? Does the Navy think that heterosexual relationships are less stable than homosexual relationships?
I see a Saturday Nite Live skit Al Franken asking some Navy Admiral this question at a Senate hearing.
Now then just how would an Admiral handle or waffle that question? I don’t know any Admirals can’t think like them.
Hey! you almost made me ruin another keyboard with spitting out my coffee! I’ve gotta go change my tee shirt now.
It was THAT close!
Yeah, I know. There are a few people sowing the crazy wind who are nominally on our side, too. Which is depressing.
Finally. Thank you very much for saying what I have been saying for a couple of years. Now, what can be done about it? The MSM has been coopted by the right, so much for the “liberal” media. If one can not get the message out in the MSM, what can be done?
THAT is what drives me stark, raving mad: those who say “Yes, there are extremists on the LEFT, as well as the Right.”
These liars should be called out EVERY time they say this garbage on teevee. You can’t imagine how sick I am of the Deecee-based “Everything is Equal” bullshit brigade.
Oh, and my other pet peeve is DeeCee not being able to say LIAR. They hem and haw and sometimes (and quite rarely) use other words, like “falsehoods.” I have noticed that, lately, a few blogs are beginning to use the word LIAR more often. Great!
I hope I live to see the day when you still don’t see the word LIAR much, because not many lie.
This situation reminds me that Jane was a producer for Natural Born Killers, which resulted in many copycat crimes. How come nobody uses that as an example? Is Jane responsible?
Late, as usual – wrt Kessler’s book on the cuts in Secret Service – check out the Daily Show from, Monday? when Jon interviewed him.
Kessler said then, straight out, that the cuts have occurred “since the SS was moved to Homeland Security;” he either implied or stated that Homeland is much less well organized and managed, not on top of things.
Jon also implored him to stop talking about where holes might be: Kessler responded that he hoped poinnting them out in public would cause changes to be made.