Comments on: How it works in modern Journalism http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:01:21 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: AngelsAwake http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949484 AngelsAwake Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:49:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949484 <p>Goodness. This is so depressing I’m amazed we haven’t given up yet. I mean, we’re pressed on all sides by all kinds of shit. I’m new to the progressive movement- was once a conservative, quit because Christianity and “<i>[Edited by Moderators]</i>” conservatism don’t actually go all that well together- and I just have to say: I admire you people. You keep on fighting when it looks worse than I’d ever imagined it could be.</p> <p><i>[Mod Note: Please refrain from racial/sexual slurs, even if used for examples of others actions. Thank you]</i></p> Goodness. This is so depressing I’m amazed we haven’t given up yet. I mean, we’re pressed on all sides by all kinds of shit. I’m new to the progressive movement- was once a conservative, quit because Christianity and “[Edited by Moderators]” conservatism don’t actually go all that well together- and I just have to say: I admire you people. You keep on fighting when it looks worse than I’d ever imagined it could be.

[Mod Note: Please refrain from racial/sexual slurs, even if used for examples of others actions. Thank you]

]]> By: Kassandra http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949301 Kassandra Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:04:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949301 <p>The answer to these thuggish, paid for by fascists, is clear. This is disorderly conduct, at the least, and should be treated as such, with police removals, like Baucus did with the (not so disorderly) doctors who cam to his committee to protest for single payer.</p> <p>The question is if Obama has the backbone to do what is obviously needed here. If he doesn’t, he may as well resign his presidency immediately; as he will have lost all the gravitas and dignitas of the office he was elected to.</p> <p>The same goes for the forged “birth certificate” Orly Tait is parading around.</p> The answer to these thuggish, paid for by fascists, is clear. This is disorderly conduct, at the least, and should be treated as such, with police removals, like Baucus did with the (not so disorderly) doctors who cam to his committee to protest for single payer.

The question is if Obama has the backbone to do what is obviously needed here. If he doesn’t, he may as well resign his presidency immediately; as he will have lost all the gravitas and dignitas of the office he was elected to.

The same goes for the forged “birth certificate” Orly Tait is parading around.

]]> By: alank http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949300 alank Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:36:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949300 <p>Marches in the street were usually led by groups unconnected with the two major parties. Often minor parties such as SWP or CPUSA, legatees of the old left, were the organizing groups. But most were led by groups organized around a major cause such as civil rights, e.g., the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. The major parties are of the establishment and therefore do not engage in the “street uprisings” of the people.</p> Marches in the street were usually led by groups unconnected with the two major parties. Often minor parties such as SWP or CPUSA, legatees of the old left, were the organizing groups. But most were led by groups organized around a major cause such as civil rights, e.g., the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. The major parties are of the establishment and therefore do not engage in the “street uprisings” of the people.

]]> By: Sufilizard2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949299 Sufilizard2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:34:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949299 <p><a href="http://www.mennoniteusa.org/Home/News/tabid/65/EntryID/158/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">The Mennonite church has put out the call.</a></p> <p>Just FYI.</p> The Mennonite church has put out the call.

Just FYI.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949296 Bluetoe2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:18:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949296 <p>More info on the last townhall disruption in Green Bay. Obama and the Dems have been outflanked by the birthers, wingnuts, teabaggers etc..<br /><a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a></p> More info on the last townhall disruption in Green Bay. Obama and the Dems have been outflanked by the birthers, wingnuts, teabaggers etc..
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949294 Bluetoe2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:08:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949294 <p>Would the corporate media report if “our” side were out in mass? I think it’s past time for demonstrating. Where is the call to hit the streets from the unions, the progressive blogs, church groups, the Nation, Mother Jones etc. etc.? Code Pink can’t do it alone.</p> Would the corporate media report if “our” side were out in mass? I think it’s past time for demonstrating. Where is the call to hit the streets from the unions, the progressive blogs, church groups, the Nation, Mother Jones etc. etc.? Code Pink can’t do it alone.

]]> By: brendanscalling http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949293 brendanscalling Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:06:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949293 <p>“Now that Obama has come out of the closet as an honest-to-god FDR type liberal”</p> <p>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!</p> <p>holy shit, you CANNOT be serious. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH</p> <p>Seriously, do you think FDR would be letting a turd like Rahm Emmanuel destroy his big priorities? HAHAHA, no.</p> <p>Obama is ALREADY reducing expectations for health care, as posted several times here at FDL: in fact, as jane pointed out yesterday, eh’s already conflating “the public option” with conrad’s toothless co-ops. That’s not FDR. In fact, Obama too single payer off the table before the debate even began. THAT’S not FDR either.</p> <p>Also, Obama has been reluctant to impose regulations on the financial industry that destroyed the economy. That’s not FDR either.</p> <p>“Now that Obama has come out of the closet as an honest-to-god FDR type liberal”: hey can i have some of what you’re smoking? cus that shit’s gotta be so primo it turns your eyes red just looking at it.</p> “Now that Obama has come out of the closet as an honest-to-god FDR type liberal”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

holy shit, you CANNOT be serious. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Seriously, do you think FDR would be letting a turd like Rahm Emmanuel destroy his big priorities? HAHAHA, no.

Obama is ALREADY reducing expectations for health care, as posted several times here at FDL: in fact, as jane pointed out yesterday, eh’s already conflating “the public option” with conrad’s toothless co-ops. That’s not FDR. In fact, Obama too single payer off the table before the debate even began. THAT’S not FDR either.

Also, Obama has been reluctant to impose regulations on the financial industry that destroyed the economy. That’s not FDR either.

“Now that Obama has come out of the closet as an honest-to-god FDR type liberal”: hey can i have some of what you’re smoking? cus that shit’s gotta be so primo it turns your eyes red just looking at it.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949292 Bluetoe2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:04:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949292 <p>Todays brownshirts are clad in plaid and polyester.</p> Todays brownshirts are clad in plaid and polyester.

]]> By: SanderO http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949289 SanderO Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:59:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949289 <p>Obama is up against a well entrenched power structure with tentacles on everything. He is the first black president in a non post racial - racist religious whacko country. Very different climate.</p> Obama is up against a well entrenched power structure with tentacles on everything. He is the first black president in a non post racial – racist religious whacko country. Very different climate.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949283 Bluetoe2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:51:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/how-it-works-in-modern-journalism/#comment-1949283 <p>To suggest Obama is a liberal is a bit overboard and his political skills are a mere shadow of those of FDR. FDR was not affraid to shake and rattle the ruling elite. He wasn’t affraid of being partisan. Obama’s fetishistic devotion of bipartanship and consensus is not what was called for at this point in U.S. history. Bold vision, unwavering fortitued and the willingness to lead are what is needed. Charisma alone is no substitute for these qualities.</p> To suggest Obama is a liberal is a bit overboard and his political skills are a mere shadow of those of FDR. FDR was not affraid to shake and rattle the ruling elite. He wasn’t affraid of being partisan. Obama’s fetishistic devotion of bipartanship and consensus is not what was called for at this point in U.S. history. Bold vision, unwavering fortitued and the willingness to lead are what is needed. Charisma alone is no substitute for these qualities.

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