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	<title>Comments on: Ross Douthat Wants the Whole Country to Look Like Texas</title>
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		<title>By: AngelsAwake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948798</link>
		<dc:creator>AngelsAwake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ross Asshat, more like it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross Asshat, more like it.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948719</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But of course it’s not a Democratic Party disaster.  It is the GOP rump in Sacramento that stops effective measures from being enacted, such as actually paying for the state services California became known for.  In fact, the GOP stops any measure if it can be shoe-horned into an anti-tax crusade.  As Warren Buffett points out, he pays higher real estate tax on his modest house in Omaha than he does on his multi-million dollar pad in California, all because of Prop 13.  And that’s only one misery Californians have not figured how to do without. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Californian Democrats, DiFi and Pelosi among them, are nothing to write home about.  But it’s California’s Goopers that are dismantling a once great state.  The parallels with how they spike federal efforts - health care and gasoline mileage standards, for example - are obvious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But of course it’s not a Democratic Party disaster.  It is the GOP rump in Sacramento that stops effective measures from being enacted, such as actually paying for the state services California became known for.  In fact, the GOP stops any measure if it can be shoe-horned into an anti-tax crusade.  As Warren Buffett points out, he pays higher real estate tax on his modest house in Omaha than he does on his multi-million dollar pad in California, all because of Prop 13.  And that’s only one misery Californians have not figured how to do without. </p>
<p>Californian Democrats, DiFi and Pelosi among them, are nothing to write home about.  But it’s California’s Goopers that are dismantling a once great state.  The parallels with how they spike federal efforts &#8211; health care and gasoline mileage standards, for example &#8211; are obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948704</link>
		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, man.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, man.</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And what exactly is the Taxcut/no new taxes! mantra of the Right supposed to accomplish?  That would appear to be the unwillingness to pay for anything. The Right is stingy, so your lame attempts to place the blame on the left fall flat…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what exactly is the Taxcut/no new taxes! mantra of the Right supposed to accomplish?  That would appear to be the unwillingness to pay for anything. The Right is stingy, so your lame attempts to place the blame on the left fall flat…</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948658</link>
		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By ‘cheating big time’, Twain means that some (not all) assessors were manipulating the assessed values of residential property.  This was done in some cases to limit the property tax bill to elderly citizens, but it was done in many cases to limit the property tax bill for politically powerful individuals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Needless to say, this was unconstitutional.  Assessors were ordered to clean their acts up.  The property tax bills for many people on fixed incomes skyrocketed.  They screamed, and Jarvis and Gann saw their opportunity to strike.  So they did.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By ‘cheating big time’, Twain means that some (not all) assessors were manipulating the assessed values of residential property.  This was done in some cases to limit the property tax bill to elderly citizens, but it was done in many cases to limit the property tax bill for politically powerful individuals.</p>
<p>Needless to say, this was unconstitutional.  Assessors were ordered to clean their acts up.  The property tax bills for many people on fixed incomes skyrocketed.  They screamed, and Jarvis and Gann saw their opportunity to strike.  So they did.</p>
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		<title>By: aldole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948657</link>
		<dc:creator>aldole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ross Doubt-that is Ann Coulter, without the balls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross Doubt-that is Ann Coulter, without the balls.</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948656</link>
		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Orange.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orange.</p>
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		<title>By: HelenaHandbasket</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948655</link>
		<dc:creator>HelenaHandbasket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In addition to limiting the increase of property taxes, unless the property changed hands, Prop. 13 required that all state tax rate increases be approved by a two-thirds vote of the legislature and that local tax rates also have to be approved by a 2/3s vote of the people. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While this sounds great, what it did was ensure gridlock. It, as Grover Norquist would say, “starves the beast.”  Not being able to increase revenue, the state would have to cut programs and/or go into debt.  And it has.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first part of the Proposition, about cutting property taxes, except if it is sold, shifted the tax burden from businesses and corporations to homeowners, since they move more frequently; thereby, triggering reassessments at current (higher) values.  So, other than the people who have stayed in their same homes for the past 30 years, homeowners aren’t seeing any tax relief.  This also puts them in a position to not favor any tax increases.  And, the cycle repeats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to limiting the increase of property taxes, unless the property changed hands, Prop. 13 required that all state tax rate increases be approved by a two-thirds vote of the legislature and that local tax rates also have to be approved by a 2/3s vote of the people. </p>
<p>While this sounds great, what it did was ensure gridlock. It, as Grover Norquist would say, “starves the beast.”  Not being able to increase revenue, the state would have to cut programs and/or go into debt.  And it has.</p>
<p>The first part of the Proposition, about cutting property taxes, except if it is sold, shifted the tax burden from businesses and corporations to homeowners, since they move more frequently; thereby, triggering reassessments at current (higher) values.  So, other than the people who have stayed in their same homes for the past 30 years, homeowners aren’t seeing any tax relief.  This also puts them in a position to not favor any tax increases.  And, the cycle repeats.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Rosenbaum</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948654</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Rosenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hope you don’t mind the amplification:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6903&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6903&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you don’t mind the amplification:</p>
<p><a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6903" rel="nofollow">http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6903</a></p>
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		<title>By: OldFatGuy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/03/ross-douthat-wants-the-whole-country-to-look-like-texas/#comment-1948653</link>
		<dc:creator>OldFatGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nobody wants to pay for anything out there.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That problem isn’t isolated to just California, I’m afraid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nobody wants to pay for anything out there.
</p>
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<p>That problem isn’t isolated to just California, I’m afraid.</p>
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