Welcome to American political discourse. All distractions, all the time.

is to engage white Americans (in “real America”) who don’t want to pay for health care for “those people.”

Funny how we have the 15th highest rate of uninsured people in the nation here in Montana, but one of the lowest rates of “those people.” After all. it is only those shiftless brown people who do not have healthcare, not honest, hardworking “Real Amuricuns.” Or not.

Don’t you love the video, where they mislead seniors into thinking ObamaCare will consider “surgery” for them at all, when really it’s just code for euthanasia?

Have to take your word for it; I’m on a slow dialup.

That ad goes well beyond sleazy and dishonest.

How can you say such things about the Family Research Council’s political arm, where church and state are thiiiiis far apart?

Old people sad because he can’t get “surgery” under ObamaCare, even though Planned Parenthood, and its evil lunchtime on-demand abortions, are funded generously with his tax dollars. Sort of a Greatest Generation Harry & Louise.

Ah. And, I’m sure, all presented with the utmost attention to accuracy of detail. :farts loudly:

:farts loudly:

Pretty much the content of the ad, except scarier.

Welcome to Health Care August, when we’ll be talking in Town Hall Meetings all over America about four things that have nothing to do with universal, accessible, readily available health care for all: Obama’s birth certificate, euthanasia, abortion, and race.

and those will be the only things discussed by the media. *sigh* its gonna be a long august

hey teddy

Do we have ads for our side of the story? I happened to catch ABC’s shill for the reich wing, Stssl, the other night giving the run down of the 3 people in Canada who hate their health care system but speak on behalf of their entire nation. Bastard.

Funny how the actual polling data from all those socialmalistical national healthcare countries show that their populations are more satisfied with their healthcare than we are.

I had a close call with the “euthanasia” issue when my mother was in the last year of her life. She was on the “Secure Horizons” HMO (the Medicare “Advantage”). Did you know that Secure Horizons has its own doctors who wander the halls of the emergency rooms, assuring that their members don’t get too much care? This fellow – charming, slick, good looking – disagreed with the emergency room doctor who wanted to check my mom in overnight for observation. “Dr. Charmer” advised me to put her in hospice, with a do-not-recusitate designation – not technically euthanasia, but getting pretty close. That’s our current healthcare system – the insurance companies making sure they don’t put out too many dollars for those old folks!

There are the red white and blue pocket cards.

ouse Speaker Nancy Pelosi returned home to San Francisco this weekend carrying a red, white and blue pocket card that will help guide her through the August recess. The card lists talking points she hopes will convince everyday Americans of the benefits they could receive under the health-care reform plan she hatched with other House Democrats last week.

Pelosi distributed the cards to all 256 of her caucus members, arming the unruly Democratic majority for battle in their disparate districts across the country

It’s not about satisfaction, dammit! It’s about the obvious and inherent superiority of unregulated capitalism!

I don’t think any of these Republican attacks would resonate with anyone outside the usual troglodyte suspects IF the Dems had not (as always) been asleep at the switch while the right-wing was busy framing the debate. Add the fact that Blue Dogs and many other Dems are already on the same page as Republicans, coupled with a compliant Big Media that always disseminates wingnut framing WHILE continuously harping on alleged Obama and health care reform slippage in the polls.

Not certain where I was going with that rant. Anyway, I suspect the “DC” in Washington DC stands for Dem Clusterfucks.

Damned Cocksuckers.

Trouble is they only kneel for special interests.

Hey Teddy. I could do with some exciting, interesting distraction. I’ve spent the afternoon doing yard work, and yes, it looks fabulous. Tonight, after the barbequed pork loins, home made potatoes salad, etc, I just finishing doing a thorough kitchen clean up. Yes, the floor too. (You need sunglasses).
So, if anyone wants to distract me from me achies and painies, without the worry of an abortion later (have no fear, it’s probably a 99% impossibility), I’m virtually available.

And they are horrified by the prospect of government bureaucrats making our healthcare decisions. At least if they work for the government they are somewhat answerable to the public.

unlike the fucking insurance companies (spitting)

The one Canadian woman who appears in the right-wing’s ads is being sued in provincial courts for misrepresenting the facts, by the health care system I believe. Her “brain tumor” was neither a tumor nor malignant and so her care was prioritized, behind others with malignant tumors. She elected to come to the US to have her growth removed earlier than needed. And so the right, here, found her and made an ad. But she is lying, and the Canadians don’t like it.

Dr.D, I really tried to find some people who would drive to MT with me for the event next weekend at the Baucus ranch. I just cannot drive the whole distance myself, 452 mi. one way. Do you know if anyone is organizing up there?

Riiiight! and that worked ever so well the last time we tried it about 120 years ago.

It’s a paradox!

hello suzanne!

Sounds like you deserve some lemon meringue pie.

how are you tonight?

BTW, Teddy, you are so exactly right on with this post. It is going to be these things and nothing else. I am so pent up about it.

It worked so fucking well that we’re doing it again.

Good on ‘em. We should do more of that. Sue the lying sacks of shit whenever they start making shit up.

Yes, there apparently is a significant organizing effort and a lot of progressive activists are planning to show up. I cannot afford to go, but it could be fun.

Good for them. Bet it doesn’t even make the papers here.

As Santayana is reported to have said.

It may not be instant, but in spite of efforts to chip away at healthcare in Canada from within, all are covered.

One can elect to go to another country for treatment and care according to their imperatives, but often these are for vanity procedures.

We need to barrage ABC with the facts about the Canadian prevaricator. It is infuriating that they get away with this crap.

Teddy! Just saw this and cracked up! Related.

Republicans say the new rhetoric reflects desperation among Democrats to find a message that will resonate.

Desperation? OMG!

I didn’t know that Santayana was as bitter as I am.

You are too good to me. You are one swell gal.
Very sexy pie and I don’t have to worry about, you know….

My original offer has been withdrawn.
It could have worked off some of your pent uppedness.
But, I’ll share my lemon meringue pie.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

And so the right, here, found her and made an ad. But she is lying, and the Canadians don’t like it.

Heh!

And the astroturf organizations are actually busing people, already trained, all over America to stand up in Town Hall meetings to disrupt the conversation with these topics. It’s going to be a clusterfuck, and unless we expose it early, Congresscritters will be overwhelmed and Americans won’t be heard.

Well thanks but I’m still not a gal, just REAL small…

I think maybe you misunderstand the purpose of Late Night FDL, madame!
*g*

I’m confused.

hey you Loo Hoo

More confused.

Okay, now THIS is funny! Lindsey Graham’s gossiping too soon killed the Lieberman-for-Veep possibility on the McCain ticket: http://tinyurl.com/kwg8yw

Ironically, Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of Lieberman’s main advocates, hurt Lieberman’s chances by talking openly about his possible selection, allowing conservative opposition to intensify. “Lindsey was out talking to people before he should have and the story got ahead of us,” one McCain adviser said.

What ’bout?

Hmmm. There have been a few time when I thought it was going to crawl up inside. Like when I jumped into the Yaak River in northwest Montana.

Gal. Not a gal.
Wrong words?

Teddy, I think most of our reps who have had any public meeting in the last month or so have already seen the crazies and been bamboozled by the birther types. I am looking forward to having some interactions with those nuts, I can’t wait to ask them if they are covered by Medicare.

I went to an event that Tom Udall had. It was essentially like the one we saw in RI, I think, except that no one stood up and said we should all recite the pledge of allegiance right now.

Otherwise, pretty much what we saw on YouTube.

Okay. I think I know what you are saying.
Have I been gender incorrect for a really long time about ratfood?
Shit.

I think the coldest water I ever entered on purpose was the Pacific Ocean near Portland, Oregon. 38 years ago and my lips still turn blue thinking about it.

Kind of a moot point. Not certain my doctor even knows. Last time I asked if I should disrobe she replied, “HELL no!”

Wise congresscritters will BEGIN their Town Hall meetings with the pledge of allegiance, so they can get it out of their system and then say, “Madame, that part of the event has already concluded and we don’t have time to repeat it.” I’m surprised Mike Castle got caught out that way; most public meetings, in my recollection, begin that way.

Pelosi should so advise the troops, along with her little laminated card.

[nelson muntz] Ha ha! [/nelson muntz]

In the scale of things there is cold water, holy fuck cold water, and then there is Yaak cold water. I think it was all of about 2 degreees above freezing and this was in July or August and it was about 100 out. Coldest water I ever want to go into. Did have the advantage of inducing mild hypothermia in about 3-4 minutes which made the heat more bearable.

My dad used to have a cartoon posted next to his computer, with a beagle at the keyboard, saying “On the internet no one knows you’re a dog.” Of course, on the internet, no one knows you’re a girl, either. Just ask Digby! She says the way she’s been treated has changed markedly since she gender-disclosed. Eric Boehlert discusses it in his book.

Whatever. Whichever. I love you, baby. If that’s okay.

Teton Lake, July 1968. My little brother practically stopped breathing.

It is true. There have been a number of posters here whose gender I did not know (and a few I am still not sure of). Actually find it rather liberating to communicate with people without the interference of any of our social stereotypes.

That sounds like Yaak cold.

Somebody had drowned in a mountain lake shortly before we visited Snowy Range in Wyoming. It was at about 12,000 feet, undoubtedly comprised entirely of snow melt. As I recall the divers attempting to retrieve the body could only stay in for 10 minutes at a time. I successfully resisted the temptation to wade in that one.

Yes. And, really gender doesn’t matter for our purposes here, in my estimation.
I think you were here the night trex named me demi. It was after something I said about (something I don’t want to bring up) that made a commenter say that obviously I was a guy because no woman would make that comment. Ha Ha. I was using my first initial and last name at that time. Man, I mean, Holy Cow, they were wrong.

Thank ya, thank ya very much. Call me anything but CALL me.:o)

OK, so I do have a good health care story. I don’t know how it was paid for and have not asked. But less than a year ago, my college roommate was diagnosed with a congenitally bad heart–spongiform cardiomyopathy. They said it was fatal and a heart transplant would be required.

It took a while to get onto the list, but that happened finally. There was one false alarm when the heart went to someone else. But not even two weeks ago, a soldier died from his injuries (I don’t know if I or A on that) and his mother designated his heart for my roommate. Barely a week after the surgery, my roommate is home and walking a mile. Amazing.

The soldier was buried yesterday.

Do you remember that song “Crack That Whip”? It was one of those tunes, were the lyrics were hard to understand. I had a dear girlfriend who called that song, “Do Rats Have Lips?”.

Good luck to your friend. Peace and gratitude to the soldier and his family.

There are people here I’m still not sure about, but you are not one of them! *g*

Have you seen the new hbo series “Hung”?

Just read post, haven’t read comments.

TeddyP, there are times when you even outdo yerself, and soar beyond the stratosphere of the high.

This is one of them.

That’s some beautifully worded and crafted shit up there . . . .

All I can do is say, thanks, hoss . . . . thanks a bunch! *G*

I always was rather obvious and have never been very good at concealing things. That is why I would make a lousy politician.

“I fought the law and the law woman.”

Wow, that’s amazing.

That’s funny. I must be getting old because I rarely understand the lyrics to any contemporary music, not that I hear much of it.

See, Mary just parachutes in, no “hiya” or anything, and starts asking about the non-clown-car parts!

Hi Mary! *g*

I am a guy.

I don’t have HBO, so no. If you can help me understand Teddy’s comment, and the Hung show reference was a tip. HELP.

Hey Teddy! and everybody.

Why, thank you. Sometimes it’s a struggle, but this one came from the heart. It’s going to be a tough month, and we must be well-prepared for it. I appreciate your comment; as Trex used to say, it means everything that people like what I write. And it’s true!

Do you live in one of those towns where the only thing on the radio is Nashville pop country or oldies?

I fell into the Rio Grande on a rafting day trip, and had the same feeling.

Hey there mister.

I’ve never been there, but I think of the Rio Grande (being in Texas) as being a slow warm muddy river. Guess not, huh?

Ha! Whenever I’m dealing with some wussy-assed girlscout boy, I always say My dick’s longer than his!”. I say that. Ask my friends.

Probably but I haven’t listened to the radio much in decades. I have thousands of titles in my music collection, mostly stuff too esoteric for mass consumption.

Headwaters are in Colorado. I suspect she was rafting the upper reaches of the river.

mostly stuff melodies too esoteric for mass consumption

When it’s flowing through northern NM, no. It’s mountain run-off, melted snow mostly (at least that’s what it felt like).

Has everyone taken a moment to re-read my critically acclaimed post?
*g*

Many opaque melodies that would bug most people.

Likewise. Close to 3,000 CDs right now, though not really all that esoteric (mostly blues), but still not mass market material.

Thanks for this Teddy! That ad is sooo gross. I wonder what surgery he wanted-isn’t that sort of an important plot point? Like a face lift so he could compete in the work place? Plantar wart removal? New pancreas?

I went in the Pacific Ocean once in January. Years ago, when I was in college and a girlfriend was showing me the nude beach above Zuma. (Does anyone here know That Beach?) Anyway, I ran into the Chairman of the Speech Department, which was my subject of interest. Cracked us both up. And, his little secret never really was one anyway.

About a month or so ago, kids were playing in the Rio Grande by Rio Rancho. There was some kind of rip tide, and one of the kids drowned. It was a terrible tragedy, happened in front of his brother and friends.

Soul transplant I suspect.

Where’s the Graham Cracker Crust, Dude !

*potentially a great set-up line*

Teddy !

I’m probably up to two or three times that in various formats. My acquisitions have slowed a lot. I’ve realized that I have a lot of music I’ll never get around to listening to again. Also, I kept bringing things home to discover that I already owned it. Really gotten out of hand.

I hope the punishment is harsh … force her to watch the Maple Leafs play every single
home game !

hiya Lisa!

I just decided to go back up top and look at the video. Fucking transparent garbage. Who buys into this crap?????

I had to set up an inventory in an excel file to keep track of it all.

Probably on the senator from South Carolina.

Did I win anything?

Oh, and here’s a little intra-blog whoring: three GOPCritters are running polls on the House websites about health care, so if you’d like to give them your opinion, here’s where to start.

Dangerfield: Women dress me with their Eyes !

Anyone who believes it should be euthanized immediately.

The heart speaks loudly for us all . . . when we listen to it and follow it, well . . . your post is what can happen.

Yep, a tough month ahead, but I smell prog in the air, I LOVE the smell of prog in the morning (cliche) . . . I sense really, really, itchy trigger finger progs ready to shoot down and expose the bullshit we’re headed for . . . . in a timely fashion, too.

The phreakin net that’s been casted for so long now, since what, ‘03 or so? In the toobz? Blogs?

It’s ensnared so many of us, and organized so many of us, even loosely, that I think the blowback we can all create to what’s coming is gonna really shake the MSM, and the PTB.

We can make a case for making or breaking an elected pol’s career . . . by holding feets to fires.

It’s a heady, vibrant and prog oriented atmosphere that’s been generated thru all the work that folks have done.

It will be tested this month, this prog atmosphere, and I think from what I’ve seen of this ‘network’ that our best daze are ahead of us . . . and the worst daze of the 23% are still coming . . . . *G*

Again, thanks to you as one of the leaders of it all . . . in your own doing ways . . . well done!

Kahplah!!! ;-)

yea!

Hell, they lock me in the basement closet with the lights off.

I laughed !
I cried !
I lost 15 Pounds ! – Stephen Colbert

Rachel Maddow now has over one million Twitter followers.

I’m so glad you’re here, Petro, to keep me grounded!~

Was that Larue?

I should do that. I at least hope to have all my CDs organized one day. I also own a fair amount of blues. Lots of free jazz. Quite a bit of rock from various decades but rarely the sort of thing one would have heard on the radio. Sampling of various genres (but mostly jazz) from the 1920s onward.

Think I’ll head out. Splendid evening to all.

Good night Mr./Ms. Ratfood person.

Night. Time for me to toddle off as well. Take care all.

Better than when they turn their head and pretend to barf, I guess.

LOL … how are you, DrD ?

*waving g’nite to the leaving sleeping pups*

Nighty-nite, rat. (Kiss on the forehead)

Take care, Dick.

Plus, there’s an “email us” section on their pages. Heck, send them a personal story about the necessity of health care reform.

Seriously, it is an excellent post … needed to be said.

I would add that somewhere in all of this, they will find a way to sneak in Guns, God & Gays … they always find a way.

And IMO she’s hotter than Ashton Kutcher!

G’nite Dude !

Smarter too !

*Whew … finally caught up.

Here’s what I’d love to see Obama focus on … “pre- existing condition” and beat the ReThugs senseless for suggesting that someone who is/was sick should be denied care.

It’s rope-a-dope time !

Well, I wouldn’t go that far, but she is wonderful….

See, if I was the brown haired demi, I’d have to do some defense work here.

Thank you.
Guess it’s time for me to say good night. Thanks for the party, Teddy.
And, again, good eye.

Once that odious Betsy McCaughey was assigned the euthanasia beat, I figured it was gonna be important. She killed 93’s health care reform with her article in The New Republic (thanks, Andrew Sullivan, for that important editorial decision and lack of fact-checking!!) and she’s the assigned giant-killer today. That the FRC decided to go with old people makes me believe it even more.

g’nite, dear

Andrew Sullivan is so full of shit, his eyes are Brown !

They don’t give a shit about living people. All they care about are the unborn in the womb, but it’s a cold cruel world once you’re out, baby, especially if the GOP have anything to say about it. You on your own.

Da ReichWingNuts will always bring in Race, gender preference and the age old young against the old!!

When will they ever learn

It will never change until the Pukes are long gone and the people have their say instead of corporations and all the money they have to spend to influence Washington… Please help http://www.youstreet.org to make a difference…
It will take time but hey what else do we have??

Margot !

That’s so they have enough recruits for their never ending Wars and to fill their Jails …

nite demi sleep well sweetie…. maybe you can make the trek up here Oct 10th??

g’nite demi

Nite demi, hi Petro!

Geez, I’ve met her/him. And the other half of their house, whom I met first.

At a dobro workshop . . . . he/she was a really nice guy/girl.

Do I need to use Mister Sister now? I liked Mary , it was SO much easier . . . ;-)

Dude, or dudette . . . gimme a fer instance!! *G*

Cause they all spend a lot of time curled up in the fetal position since a black man became president.

Wait — Obama’s black?

ya gotta be be kidding us …. right?? I thought he was a white dude in makeup!!

Hoss, I’d LOVE to send them my thoughts, but the linky’s don’t show the polls . . . where do we find the polls?

Hi all – late to it, but I just gotta say I can’t STAND that f%^&cking advertisement.

My artner and I are doing the whole rigamarole thing to enroll the parents in Medicaid and finding them new assisted housing, and the shit in the ad couldn’t be further from the truth, nor what’s in the new legislation.

BAH! It’s maddening.

How they manage to send birther emails from a fetal position, I don’t know.

Who? Who? WHO Was That Larue?

Do I have an imposternator?

???????????

Al Jolson ?

Just Joshin? (a dobro pun)

yup

It is a very important post, Teddy. Thanks.