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	<title>Comments on: Mikva Spins Fitzgerald&#8217;s Spinning Lincoln Right Back</title>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amazes me that a judge said this at all, given the other context at the time — the media was watching the entire state of Illinois like a hawk and trumpeting any observation it made related to the departure of Obama from the Senate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, will we see you at Netroots?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazes me that a judge said this at all, given the other context at the time — the media was watching the entire state of Illinois like a hawk and trumpeting any observation it made related to the departure of Obama from the Senate.</p>
<p>BTW, will we see you at Netroots?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, Fitz was in unchartered waters and he knew it.  He wanted to keep Blago from selling the Senate seat - the remedy for which is unclear, would be messy, and would deprive IL citizens of representation for months while the matter was resolved. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He did not have all his evidence squared away on all the counts of other corrupt dealings. He would have preferred to continue to investigate but he must have heard enough to believe Blago was about to sell the seat, and he had enough probable cause on other counts to make the arrest and halt the sale of the Senator’s seat.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another element of Fitz’s statement made an impression on me. He talked about lying in bed and worrying about Blago’s other corrupt dealing, specifically accommodating a business deal in return for the termination of a newspaper columnist. Fitz described that he was troubled about the columnist losing his job. If he acted he could keep that from happening.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, I would prefer if USAs and DA didn’t sell the merit of the charges by using colorful and/or morally judgmental language.  The fundamental facts or the alleged crimes ought to do the trick.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Boston USA published photos of city councilors allegedly taking bribe money in FBI sting operations.  I was appalled to see the photos, which are evidence, on the front page of the Boston Globe.  I think Federal prosecutors don’t want too many question when they arrest elected officials.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, Fitz was in unchartered waters and he knew it.  He wanted to keep Blago from selling the Senate seat &#8211; the remedy for which is unclear, would be messy, and would deprive IL citizens of representation for months while the matter was resolved. </p>
<p>He did not have all his evidence squared away on all the counts of other corrupt dealings. He would have preferred to continue to investigate but he must have heard enough to believe Blago was about to sell the seat, and he had enough probable cause on other counts to make the arrest and halt the sale of the Senator’s seat.  </p>
<p>Another element of Fitz’s statement made an impression on me. He talked about lying in bed and worrying about Blago’s other corrupt dealing, specifically accommodating a business deal in return for the termination of a newspaper columnist. Fitz described that he was troubled about the columnist losing his job. If he acted he could keep that from happening.  </p>
<p>That said, I would prefer if USAs and DA didn’t sell the merit of the charges by using colorful and/or morally judgmental language.  The fundamental facts or the alleged crimes ought to do the trick.  </p>
<p>The Boston USA published photos of city councilors allegedly taking bribe money in FBI sting operations.  I was appalled to see the photos, which are evidence, on the front page of the Boston Globe.  I think Federal prosecutors don’t want too many question when they arrest elected officials.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bells don’t get unrung.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope Blago goes down and hard, but I think the statements were out of line and I don’t think Mikva was wrong to comment on them.  A panel before the ABA isn’t quite the same as him, oh, maybe holding a press conference and getting it splashed on news at nine that a Fed Judge is in front of the press putting out an absolutist statement to the public on prosecutorial misconduct. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OTOH, pollution of a jury pool is so far down on the list of bad things the DOJ is embracing that I guess next to torture conspiracies it doesn’t really warrant much of a mention.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bells don’t get unrung.  </p>
<p>I hope Blago goes down and hard, but I think the statements were out of line and I don’t think Mikva was wrong to comment on them.  A panel before the ABA isn’t quite the same as him, oh, maybe holding a press conference and getting it splashed on news at nine that a Fed Judge is in front of the press putting out an absolutist statement to the public on prosecutorial misconduct. </p>
<p>OTOH, pollution of a jury pool is so far down on the list of bad things the DOJ is embracing that I guess next to torture conspiracies it doesn’t really warrant much of a mention.</p>
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		<title>By: OrganicGeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>OrganicGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It maybe that the Judge knows more about the extent of the Illinois corruption on a more personal level.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is just a conjecture. but if the Judge is also dirty then finding any dumb problem to screw up the trail would be in his best interest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again just pure speculation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It maybe that the Judge knows more about the extent of the Illinois corruption on a more personal level.</p>
<p>This is just a conjecture. but if the Judge is also dirty then finding any dumb problem to screw up the trail would be in his best interest.</p>
<p>Again just pure speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and I don’t believe anything that any power sez, including corps. I’m an equal opportunity power-that-be disbeliever.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I don’t believe anything that any power sez, including corps. I’m an equal opportunity power-that-be disbeliever.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I don’t suppose there’s ANY dirt the prosecution can throw in the defense’s eyes to postpone the trial. No. Never. The prosecution would NEVER resort to such tricks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last time I showed up for jury duty (got many notices after that but trashed them), I said on the 4 voir dires that I got called for, that I would vote against the more powerful side because it held all the cards. It was federal grand jury in Manhattan. Wouldn’t have believed a word the govt said.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don’t suppose there’s ANY dirt the prosecution can throw in the defense’s eyes to postpone the trial. No. Never. The prosecution would NEVER resort to such tricks.</p>
<p>Last time I showed up for jury duty (got many notices after that but trashed them), I said on the 4 voir dires that I got called for, that I would vote against the more powerful side because it held all the cards. It was federal grand jury in Manhattan. Wouldn’t have believed a word the govt said.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Kouril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Kouril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;under the speedy trial act, the prosecution has only 72 days to bring a case to trial.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ONLY way there is a delay this long is if the defense consents to it. This delay is ENTIRELY within the power of the defense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The prosecution does not have the power to tdealy, only the defense does&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>under the speedy trial act, the prosecution has only 72 days to bring a case to trial.</p>
<p>The ONLY way there is a delay this long is if the defense consents to it. This delay is ENTIRELY within the power of the defense.</p>
<p>The prosecution does not have the power to tdealy, only the defense does</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, I might mention that after all Fitz’s hyperventilation, the case has gone nowhere in the intervening months. What’s the holdup??? If what Fitz said is true, there should have been a trial and conviction by now. You know, speedy trial &amp; all that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I might mention that after all Fitz’s hyperventilation, the case has gone nowhere in the intervening months. What’s the holdup??? If what Fitz said is true, there should have been a trial and conviction by now. You know, speedy trial &amp; all that.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought Fitz’s comments were uncalled for. If he has the case, just state it, don’t hype it. (If you take an elementary course on fiction writing, the first lesson you learn is “show, don’t tell.” Same advice for prosecutors.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t have any problem with Mikva’s calling him on it. Prosecutors have the whole weight of the govt heavy hand on their side. If no one ever calls them on their missteps, you know, slippery slope and all that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Fitz’s comments were uncalled for. If he has the case, just state it, don’t hype it. (If you take an elementary course on fiction writing, the first lesson you learn is “show, don’t tell.” Same advice for prosecutors.)</p>
<p>Don’t have any problem with Mikva’s calling him on it. Prosecutors have the whole weight of the govt heavy hand on their side. If no one ever calls them on their missteps, you know, slippery slope and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Cynthia.  The obvious trumped once again by the stupid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Cynthia.  The obvious trumped once again by the stupid.</p>
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