Michele Bachmann is a member of Bill Posey’s nine-member Birther Caucus. She originally blocked the resolution celebrating the 50th Anniversary of Hawaii Statehood that included a line citing Hawaii as President Obama’s birthplace, but then voted for it. But when asked by Mike Stark of Firedoglake.com whether she believed Obama was born in the United States, she recited a litany of things she was too busy working on that precluded her from giving a "yes" or "no" answer.
A new Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll shows that 77% of Americans believe that Obama was, indeed, born in the United States, while 11% believe that he wasn’t, and 12% aren’t sure.
| Yes | No | Not sure | |
| Dem. | 93 | 4 | 3 |
| Rep. | 42 | 28 | 30 |
| Ind. | 83 | 8 | 9 |
Those numbers break down further to indicate that support for the birther conspiracy theory is primarily in the South:
| Yes | No | Not sure | |
| Northeast | 93 | 4 | 3 |
| South | 47 | 23 | 30 |
| Midwest | 90 | 6 | 4 |
| West | 87 | 7 | 6 |
Since Michele Bachmann ostensibly represents Minnesota, her R+7 district must be pretty extreme for the region if she represents the views of the majority of her constituents.



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Batshit insane crazy ass sore losers. Is there no depth to which the republic party will sink? I have to admit this has been amusing to watch. You’d have to have been hiding under a rock for the last year and a half not to have seen the damn birth certificate.
The Birthers got weasel words from Michelle just how much below the water must a ship be before Michelle leaves?
For the Republics, there is no detectable bottom.
OK, so 77 percent of people believe O was born in the US.
76 percent of people want the public option.
Just sayin’.
Is her district prety extreme?
I’d say so.Lots of other folks in her district consider her an embarrASSment,for sure.
CREW certainly thinks Bachmann’s Pastor,and his church are extreme too
TWO ethics complaints filed against the Church .
The pastor was campaigning from the pulpit FOR her,and Youtube is online with Bachmann giving “speeches” in this church.
Last year,when Bachmann went ballistic on Hardball, the blogs collected over a million bucks to contribute to campaign coffers of her opponent.
He lost by a slim margin if I recall correctly.
It is not surprising that this is occuring from a Minnesota politician.
Look at Norm Coleman-and his enablers,DCI, headquartered in St.Paul.
Here’s some CREW links:
8 Feb 2007 // CREW FILES SECOND COMPLAINT AGAINST LIVING WORD CHRISTIAN CENTER
Oct 2006 // CREW FILES IRS COMPLAINT AGAINST LIVING WORD CHRISTIAN CENTER
Lou Dobbs ratings are tanking on this I wonder if because Lou’s ratings are tanking someone in the GOP convinced Michelle to change her mind on the Hawaii vote?
She is giving speeches in her church? Well under Bush no problem but if she does it now the IRS should take away her churches tax free status.
So that means the insane 23% in this country are still making policy even after the dems are in control of the Senate, House and Executive. WTF?
According to the above poll, once again the plantation owners are out there on that limb almost all alone. If we can keep them going wingnutty in the media, the 2010 election is going to be a lot of fun.
@#6
– Bachmann Says She is “A Fool For Christ”
5 min – Oct 14, 2006 –
2nd part of Michele Bachmann talk at Mac Hammond’s Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota October 14th 2006 …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ4wtwcrybM
CREW FILES IRS COMPLAINT AGAINST LIVING WORD CHRISTIAN CENTER …On October 14, 2006 Ms. Bachmann delivered a campaign stump speech from the Living Word Christian Center’s pulpit and the church’s pastor, Mac Hammond, …
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/18993 – Cached – Similar
Minnesota Independent: News. Politics. Media. » Living Word …Here, presented for the first time, is a complete version of Michele Bachmann’s controversial 2006 speech from Living Word Christian Center. …
minnesotaindependent.com/tag/living-word-christian-center – Cached – Similar
Michele Bachmann Hurls Again at Living Word Christian Center …Oct 15, 2006 … Michele Bachmann Hurls Again at Living Word Christian Center.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/…..all… – Cached – Similar
Democratic Underground – CREW Files Second Complaint Against …Feb 9, 2007 … Group files complaint church over Bachmann appearance … An official from the church, Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park, …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/…..hp?… – Cached – Similar
It’s pretty extreme, at least parts of it. Part of it encompasses the Twin Cities metro, however (much to their anguish). Michele Bachmann has consistently run with batshit opinions on pretty much everything. And not long ago (as in one or two weeks, max), I read that she (along with Paulsen in MN CD3) are on the GOP’s endangered list. (They, of course, call it something else. Something like, “Loyal Sister Deserves Our Undying Devotion.”
She is a complete embarrassment, but that’s not enough. You need to remember that she is serving her second term. They re-elected her!!!
And P.S., Mike Stark is hilarious!
Just keep them angry and they will keep going crazy. Best way to do that is to win or lose Despair or Triumph seems to get them worked up.
I am not so certain about that. Most especially if the dems don’t get something that will actually help people done on healthcare. They have majority in both houses and are still relenting to those whose policies have proven to be a complete disaster for America.
As a proud Minnesotan NOT from that Bachmann’s region, I can assure you that most Minnesotans are embarrassed by this wingnut. I cringe every time I see her open her mouth. Were it that Keith Ellison were given equal air time as this idiot.
good morning Jane….. thank you and Scarecrow for all your hard work. I wish I was well enough to join the hard part of the battle but can only throw out tidbits…..
There is another single payer government plan called TriCare. The plan covers military family members and they do have government owned and run military treatment centers.
With Hapless Harry Reid as Majority Leader, the Democrats’ control of the Senate is marginal at best.
It has occurred to me that this is a time when Michael Moore needs to perhaps spiff up a wee bit, and take to the airwaves, the op-eds, teevee, ads, ads, ads to speak without much comedic overtone on this whole issue. In a nation where journalism and entertainment are blurred and devoured, he seems a perfect additional spokesman for progressives.
Obama I think can get the IRS to investigate past complaints but he might not loyal Bushies at the IRS might have lost the files or some such.. A new complaint though is fair game and can be investigated right from the beginning.
Yep. And if we can’t get a 60 vote majority in the Senate to do the right thing on healthcare…
I wish you well enough, too. (((katymine))) Kick ass, girl!
Somebody needs to ask that 23% whether they think George Washington was born in the USA.
Ding!
thanks Mike and Jane,
just linked that video in the latest comments over at the Birthers mothership and in the post where Orly Taint brags about her newest FB friend, Bachmann
oh and quelle surprise, not a mention over there about the unanimous Obama Born in Hawaii Resolution of the other evening
@10
The home page of CREW has some very impressive info on CURRENT responses to FOIA actions-like WH e-mails and plum contracts defense contractors are getting. Diarists here may want to take a look.
Back to Bachmann:
CREW FILES IRS COMPLAINT AGAINST LIVING WORD CHRISTIAN CENTER
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More Related Multimedia »17 Oct 2006 // Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) complaint against the Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park, MN for violating IRS law by openly endorsing state Senator Michele Bachmann’s candidacy for the U.S. House of Representatives.
Churches, like Living Word Christian Center, are absolutely prohibited from intervening in elections for any public office. This prohibition is a condition of the very favorable tax benefits public charities receive under section 501(c)(3) of the tax code.———————–CREW
Somebody needs to ask that 23% if the earth is flat.
Seems like their heads are.
The Teabaggers and Birthers are going to be disruptive this summer for congresscritters. From Politico via Yahoo News: Town halls gone wild
Public Discourse a la Whackos!
Will mod please delete #26-inadvertent double post?Thanx.
What I read in the poll: Outside the South, bigots are less likely to be birthers.
Or just a planted excuse not to held accountable to their people.
They think that it used to be flat and it’s only 7-10 thousand years old.
asiangrrlMN and Barbara,
mebbe some Minnesotans could call the distinguished gentlelady’s office and ask about her apparent contradictions
it would be irresponsible not to :D
At least lefties lob harlmess pies.
NRA aryan separatists have less humor and more violent tendencies.
I rest my case.
That poll is unbelievable
Why again is it that all national elections must be filtered through the clearly insane South?
If they thought the earth was still flat they might try to sail all the brown skinned trouble makers off the planet.
Gee,and all this time I thought Minnesota was up North…..
The far right is coming out in all their creepiness. We have the birthers, and now the deathers. How far behind are the death counts, black heliocopters and UN takeovers? Thank God that we have(nominal)control of Congress and no special prosecuter law.
Channel your inner Mike Stark…contact your homestate media and ask them to post a daily tracker for your Congresscritters and Senators so that you can personally engage in that oh-so-important conversation with our constituents that Congress has been telling us they just can’t wait to get back home for.
We have Sarah Palin and, to a lesser extenat, John McCain to thank for that. Their campaign rallies became veritable hatefests for the knuckledraggers. The current behavior is an extension of those rallies.
You forgot to mention the roundup of all guns and ammo.
I didn’t know who Michele Bachman was until she displayed her inner Joe McCarthy on Tweety last year. IIRC, that raised a ton of money for her rival (name?) and he started gaining on her, but it was too late.
She is consistent, I give her that.
The heroics of the Confederacy are still part of the rich oral history and heritage in that region, that’s why.
@18
The IRS complaints(notice I said plural) seem to have not fazed Reverend Drummond.
Forthwith some updates about contributions to ‘08 election cycle:
Mac Hammond, Living Word fight IRS investigation in District Court
By Andy Birkey 10/3/08 12:11 PM
Pastor Mac Hammond and Living Word Christian Center–under investigation by the Internal Revenue Service for alleged favorable loans and compensation provided to Hammond by the church’s board–had their day in court Thursday as the mega-church fights to keep certain documents related to church finances out of the hands of the IRS.
Specifically, the IRS is looking for detailed information regarding favorable loans the church made to Hammond of almost $2 million and payments the church made to Hammond to rent a hangar for the church’s jet.
Hammond: IRS probe of church politically motivated
By Andy Birkey 8/25/08 10:20 AM
In a letter sent to supporters on Saturday, Pastor Mac Hammond of Living Word Christian Center wrote that “enemies of the gospel, often politically motivated,” are behind an ongoing Internal Revenue Service probe of the church. Hammond and Living Word are the target of an IRS audit investigating allegations of excessive compensation as well as […]
Pastor Mac Hammond still loves Michele Bachmann
By Andy Birkey 8/21/08 9:12 AM
Pastor Mac Hammond of the Living Word Christian Center, a Brooklyn Park mega-church, gave Rep. Michele Bachmann a campaign donation of $2,100 this campaign cycle. The controversy generated by his support for Bachmann’s first run for Congress doesn’t seem to have scared off the prosperity pastor.
I guess I have protester envy…why didn’t the anti war rallies get this kind of coverage? Why aren’t the people acting up for better health care getting this kind of coverage?
And why aren’t these angry people angry about the same things we are? Seems like a waste.
Sorry, it was an oversight. As an aside, I really like the exposure that FDL is getting on Countdown and Rachel’s shows. It is nice to get notice for doing good works.
And another thing…
if GOP die hards are going to feed this monster mob, they get to face the music.
That is a part of the South, but why is it that the rest of the Nation have to cater to this smaller part? The Confereracy was clearly wrong and actually lost the war.
Mornin’ Ms Prairie,
firedogs,
please report back on what you find
This all just an example of mass hysteria, a group projection of the deep-seated insecurities of American hick culture.
Totally understandable that a bunch of yahoos who aren’t absolutely sure who their dad is, and who their kids dads are for that matter, should be susceptible to doubts as to the details of other peoples parentage and legitimacy.
Most of them will probably go on a “fact-finding” tour of the Bahamas.
Elwyn Tinklenberg is going to run against her again.
Taryl Clark, Asst Majority Leader of MN State Senate has also announced
then small groups take turns standing outside their district offices with Where’s Waldo ? signs :D
lots of opportunity for street theatre hijinks
I see the rethugs gaing total control of the MSM, while the dems do have many sites on the internet that showcase the lies of the MSM I do not see these same corrections on the MSM, which is where the sheeple get their news. Elitism and hubris will give the rethugs the chance to win in 10 or 12. I have not seen, anywhere, any dem out refuting the rethugs lies. We are ceding the field to the rethugs withoiut a fight, somehow secure in our idea that the sheeple will be able to pick out the lies from the truth. That is the way to lose congress in 2010. The rethugs know this and work the MSM while the dems use the internet to show the rethug lies. But the MSM is now in the rethug pocket. The final winners? The corporations that will continue to loot the treasury and their rethug whores. Losers, everyone who thinks that the average voter will be able to seperate the propaganda from the truth. Ain’t gonna happen. The dumbing down of america continues apace.
I think I’ll have to send money to someone with that delightful name.
Bachmann has demonstrated time and time again – IN PUBLIC – and mostly with an audience that she is clinically insane. Isn’t their some kind of ‘recall’ provision written into representative agreements that stipulate she can be picked up by the folks in the crisp white jackets and put under observation to make sure she doesn’t hurt herself or others?? If not – there should be..
It’s time for some sanity to begin to work it’s way back into the dialogue the nation is having about a number of issue – health care and health insurance – race – death – war – economics – religious divides – families – etc., that can’t be carried on with folks like Bachmann around. Time to put her in a nut ward and throw away the key so adults can begin to get this country back to a rational dialogue..
I very much agree.
However, you are not thinking like a power hungry GOP mobster. Bachmann serves the purpose of keeping a dem out of that seat, a placeholder if you will. A pawn in their rapacious power mongering and grab for all the gold in the American economy and beyond.
That’s why your proposal will never fly as much as I wish it would.
Oh hey, BW. I was being flip. I don’t get it either.
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is up on the front page: “House Extends Wildly Successful, Popular “Cash for Clunkers”; Republicans Pout”
With 2010 right around the corner we have an opportunity to bring Bachmann home.
As a constituent and a blogger in MN-06, here are the facts about her competition:
1. Senator Tarryl Clark is WINNING the DFL endorsement race.
2. Clark has been able to win elections in her conservative district.
3. Senator Clark has worked the entire district listening to its residents even when she’s not running for office as part of her duties as Assistant Majority Leader.
4. Elwyn Tinklenberg is a Blue Dog Democrat as evidenced by his ‘08 endorsement and campaign literature.
5. Elwyn Tinklenberg has chosen not to abide by the DFL endorsement.
That being said, you can help any of these candidates with your pocket book:
Tarryl Clark
Elwyn Tinklenberg
Maureen Reed
The psychology of the true birthers — not the birther-enablers who are using this phenomenon for political gain — truly amazes me. I think the true birthers are trying to turn back time and make Obama’s election go away with this crusade. I write about it in my article, “The Tragedy of the Birthers” at BellaOnline.com under News and Politics, Democratic Party: http://democraticparty.bellaonline.com/Site.asp
Thanks for the reports on running (literally, running) Republicans. It’s quite a sight to see elected officials running away from direct questions.
Michele Bachmann represents her district. Well! It was created specifically to herd most of the state’s right-wing nuts into one district. Yes there are sane folks in St. Cloud and Stillwater, but most of them are scary.
I suppose there is some reason to try to defeat the poor woman, but why bother. Did you see one of her would-be competitors is a guy named Elwin Tinklenberg. You cannot make this shit up.
A better use of our political energy would be to get Obama to actually act like a Democrat.
Yep, The GOP in Minnesota gerrymandered CD-6 specifically to make it a GOP stronghold. The hotbed of crazy that decides the outcomes is the part of the district between the Twin Cities and St. Cloud, where the white supremacists and Confederacy wannabees are concentrated (not kidding).
The good news about the district is that it’s so out of whack with the rest of the state that the lunatic republicans who get elected there watch their careers die when they try to move on. Anyone remember Bachmann’s predecessor, Mark Kennedy? Of course not, Amy Klobuchar obliterated him in her Senate campaign.
You betch’um, Red Ryder.
Well sure, the facts don’t support what they’re saying, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they have to be batshit insane. They could be just very, very dishonest. To cut it slightly more finely: Birther leaders as a group probably lean to the dishonest side (Rush, Beck, Bachmann), with a couple true crazies mixed in there (Malkin), and the reason they’re doing it is solely to stir up large number of reichwing talk radio listener birther followers — who, as a group, probably lean not so much to the crazy end as to the easily-led/fact-impervious end. It’s a deeply cynical and manipulative bunch at the top; when they pull this crap on their base year after year and actually get away with it, it’s no wonder they see the public at large as undeserving.
Only 42 percent of Republican respondents in a Research 2000 survey, conducted for the liberal website Daily Kos, said they thought Obama was a natural born citizen; 28 percent said they did not believe Obama was born in the United States; 30 percent said they were not sure………..On another note: Cultural politics, as perfected by Karl Rove and his disciples in the last administration, has caused a widening education gap in the makeup of the the parties: The high education areas Obama carried – 78 of the 100 counties with the highest education. McCain carried 88 of the 100 counties with the lowest education. It must be painfull to be a Republican.
Just goes to prove elite egghead school curriculums erode solid American values. /s
It ain’t necessarily so.
According to politico,Al Franken,also from Minnesota by the way, has balls AND backbone.
Check this story out about Franken talking truth to GOPower house,T.Boone Pickens:
Source: Politico
Five years after he put his money behind the Swift Boat ads that helped tank John Kerry’s presidential campaign, Senate Democrats gave T. Boone Pickens a warm welcome at their weekly policy lunch Thursday.
Sen. Al Franken managed to make time for the lunch — but then let Pickens have it afterward.
According to a source, the wealthy oil and gas magnate and author of “The First Billion Is the Hardest” stepped up to introduce himself to Franken in a room just off the Senate Floor after the lunch ended
Franken, who was seated talking to someone else, did not stand when Pickens said hello. Instead, Franken began to berate him about the billionaire’s financing of the Swift Boat ads in 2004.
According to a source, the confrontation grew heated.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s…..25667.html
MN Bloggers File Ethics Complaints Against Republican Michele Bachmann
By Logan Murphy Friday Jul 31, 2009 4:00pm