Comments on: Kent Conrad: “Good Chance” Public Option is Dead in the Senate http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:24:15 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945623 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:45:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945623 <p>Dylan, Bob Dylan, not Dylan Thomas, though he might have suggested it too.</p> Dylan, Bob Dylan, not Dylan Thomas, though he might have suggested it too.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945622 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:41:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945622 <p>Do you mean they aren’t already (flush with corporate money)?<br /> Jeez, how much does it take already?</p> Do you mean they aren’t already (flush with corporate money)?
Jeez, how much does it take already?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945620 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:39:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945620 <p>If co-ops aren’t (or can’t be) competitive, then people won’t choose them or stick with them long. Having them to offer to the public does no serious harm (at least none I know of). However, insisting on a co-op, but no public option would do very serious harm (I believe).</p> If co-ops aren’t (or can’t be) competitive, then people won’t choose them or stick with them long. Having them to offer to the public does no serious harm (at least none I know of). However, insisting on a co-op, but no public option would do very serious harm (I believe).

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945619 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:35:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945619 <p>Much as he did good that kind of power isn’t really good Democracy.</p> Much as he did good that kind of power isn’t really good Democracy.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945615 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:27:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945615 <p>On an issue of this importance that seems like a reasonable position for Dem leaders to take.</p> On an issue of this importance that seems like a reasonable position for Dem leaders to take.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945614 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:25:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945614 <p>Pres. Obama has said we need “choice”. Co-ops can offer that as well as the ‘public option’. Bill Frist (Republican former Senate leader) said on Charlie Rose’s show (opposite guest Gov. Howard Dean) that we need a market-driven solution. The idea of offering the public other choices such as a co-op or the ‘public option’ IS a market-driven solution. It offers people a choice other than the private insurers.</p> <p>Likewise, a single-payer state-run universal system (within a state) should be an option for the people of a state who are dissatisfied with the private insurers. I suspect they’ll be okay with the ‘public option’, but if not then they should have some other choice.</p> Pres. Obama has said we need “choice”. Co-ops can offer that as well as the ‘public option’. Bill Frist (Republican former Senate leader) said on Charlie Rose’s show (opposite guest Gov. Howard Dean) that we need a market-driven solution. The idea of offering the public other choices such as a co-op or the ‘public option’ IS a market-driven solution. It offers people a choice other than the private insurers.

Likewise, a single-payer state-run universal system (within a state) should be an option for the people of a state who are dissatisfied with the private insurers. I suspect they’ll be okay with the ‘public option’, but if not then they should have some other choice.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945607 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:18:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945607 <p>Except of course the financing part. That’s not to say that whatever the Finance committee comes up with wouldn’t be looked at. Good ideas are always welcome. The HELP committee isn’t God on Earth either. But yes, the Finance committee’s take on financing is the key part of their work product.</p> Except of course the financing part. That’s not to say that whatever the Finance committee comes up with wouldn’t be looked at. Good ideas are always welcome. The HELP committee isn’t God on Earth either. But yes, the Finance committee’s take on financing is the key part of their work product.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945599 MarkH Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:12:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945599 <p>Insofar as a ‘public option’ wouldn’t limit states from creating a single-payer universal plan I can’t imagine how it would prevent them from creating co-ops.</p> <p>If that’s what they need, then it’s fine. Let’s move forward.</p> Insofar as a ‘public option’ wouldn’t limit states from creating a single-payer universal plan I can’t imagine how it would prevent them from creating co-ops.

If that’s what they need, then it’s fine. Let’s move forward.

]]> By: owlperson http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945502 owlperson Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945502 <p>Quick question —You “Single Payer” folks , where will go for you heart surgery after waiting 6 months. Maybe Canada , not —</p> Quick question —You “Single Payer” folks , where will go for you heart surgery after waiting 6 months. Maybe Canada , not —

]]> By: SethCohen http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945499 SethCohen Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:34:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/29/kent-conrad-public-option-is-dead-in-the-senate/#comment-1945499 <p>Um - milly, what planet are you from? You sound so uninformed when you blame the “Clinton machine” for this - Clinton was the person that has been trying to pass health care reform since over a decade ago, and one that looked more like a “single payer” plan than anything Obama has suggested. If reform fails this time around - the buck stops with Obama. He had BETTER get a robust public option as a part of his plan - he can do this with or without the Senate.</p> Um – milly, what planet are you from? You sound so uninformed when you blame the “Clinton machine” for this – Clinton was the person that has been trying to pass health care reform since over a decade ago, and one that looked more like a “single payer” plan than anything Obama has suggested. If reform fails this time around – the buck stops with Obama. He had BETTER get a robust public option as a part of his plan – he can do this with or without the Senate.

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