Comments on: FDL-Mike Stark Birther Video on Hardball

By: becca656

becca656 — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:21:49 +0000

As an old manager of mine used to say:

‘I refuse to have a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.’

By: Loo Hoo.

Loo Hoo. — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:29:09 +0000

The main problem is that America is being embarrassed again. This is semi-treasonous. No?

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:23:05 +0000

They do assert that Obama must have used a different passport to enter Pakistan many years ago. They assert, erroneously, that Obama could not have used a US passport since there was a period of time when travel by US citizens was “banned” to Pakistan. That means he must have used a secret “Kenyan” or “Indonesian” passpo rt. Problem is, there wasn’t a ban…it was a “travel warning”.

The whole thing about Obama not being a declared citizen by age l4 is just as absurd. He travelled to Indonesia about age 8 with a US Passport (necessary since he wasn’t an infant). I would bet that he had to submit a copy of his birth certificate to obtain that…and that his passport prominently stated that Honolulu was his place of birth.

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:12:37 +0000

Sorry…you are confusing “native born” with “natural born”. The former is strictly territorial. But the Constitution specifically uses the term “natural born”. Arnold had to be “naturalized” because neither of his parents were US Citizens, and he wasn’t born within the territory of the United States.

Even IF (which he wasn’t) Obama was born in Kenya, his mother (Ann Dunham) would’ve make him a “natural born” citizen. He would not have needed any sort of “naturalization” process. He’s “natural born”. Technically this goes back to two aspects of Roman Law…”jus sanguinus” (”law of blood”) and “jus soli” (”law of land”) either one of which automatically conferred Roman Citizenship.A ll others needed to be “naturalized” through a process of Imperial fiat or through legislation (usually awarded through performing some act beneficial to the State).

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:02:24 +0000

They confuse “native born” with “natural born”. The first means born within the United States…the latter means “not requiring naturalization” (i.e. by parentage or birthplace).

Seems the “birthers” have a problem with English Comprehension.

By: ChrisB

ChrisB — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:55:28 +0000

The election in 2010 is going to be so much fun. Only the loonies left to vote for the Republicans. :)

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:30:58 +0000

Not surprised even a little, Nonplussed! LOL Someone on Think Progress said most likely some of the 55 non-voters tonight were pretending to be shopping for pencils to avoid having to go on record. Bah hahahahahahaha! Oh probably.

By: nonplussed

nonplussed — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:27:19 +0000

I know you’re not surprised in the least…

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:23:59 +0000

Notice how none of the right wing loonies voted “NAY”. What a bunch of cowards they all are! Love it.

By: Larue

Larue — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:09:17 +0000

I’m wondering how many of them (Waxman?) were in Committee’s or not in The House at the vote time?