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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943757</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mornin’ all.  Just getting going in Californ eye ay.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haven’t read all the comments here, but the comments at Jonathan Turley’s piece on Sarah Bailin’ compose a hilarious cavalcade of lamest songs ever.  Muskrat Love and Bobby goldsboro’s “honey” are the frontrunners.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;have a great day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mornin’ all.  Just getting going in Californ eye ay.</p>
<p>Haven’t read all the comments here, but the comments at Jonathan Turley’s piece on Sarah Bailin’ compose a hilarious cavalcade of lamest songs ever.  Muskrat Love and Bobby goldsboro’s “honey” are the frontrunners.</p>
<p>have a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943756</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;BTW, the rabbis used the same type of “fundraisers” ( via Yeshiva school for example) that Jack Abrmoff used. Found it interesting that reports said the case was 10 years old. So much of the criminal practices were identical to Abramoff criminal practices.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Holy shit….&lt;br /&gt;
Using an epidemiology perspective, I wondered last week at EW’s whether there  might be any connections between Abramoff and this event.  Not to claim that there are, but the similar setups is mighty eye-brow raising, eh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BTW, the rabbis used the same type of “fundraisers” ( via Yeshiva school for example) that Jack Abrmoff used. Found it interesting that reports said the case was 10 years old. So much of the criminal practices were identical to Abramoff criminal practices.</p>
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<p>Holy shit….<br />
Using an epidemiology perspective, I wondered last week at EW’s whether there  might be any connections between Abramoff and this event.  Not to claim that there are, but the similar setups is mighty eye-brow raising, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943755</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Totally agree with you that it’s the ’smartest morning show out there’.  Since I don’t have teevee, I have to wait until the uploads come online for my Left Coast viewing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And he’s had some interesting, articulate guests - including Elliott Spitzer who probably has no reason to hold back from being very frank about what went wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I do wish he’d take a deep breath and slow down some times, but it’s a great show and he seems really interested in helping people better understand what has happened with the underlying economic factors: laws, regulatory problems, bank attitudes, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you that it’s the ’smartest morning show out there’.  Since I don’t have teevee, I have to wait until the uploads come online for my Left Coast viewing.</p>
<p>And he’s had some interesting, articulate guests &#8211; including Elliott Spitzer who probably has no reason to hold back from being very frank about what went wrong.</p>
<p>(I do wish he’d take a deep breath and slow down some times, but it’s a great show and he seems really interested in helping people better understand what has happened with the underlying economic factors: laws, regulatory problems, bank attitudes, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943750</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is another article on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/security/facebook-friends-could-be-spies/2009/05/19/1242498736785.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook claim&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The article mentions recruitment of Arab Israelis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The arrests made here in the US last week involved Sephardic rabbis. (Arab decent/ Syrian-Jewish rabbis)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This all &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/23/world/middleeast/23lebanon.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seems quite odd&lt;/a&gt;. Would be interested in Juan Cole and Colonel Lang’s take &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/lebanon/090708/lebanese-find-israeli-spies-their-midst?page=0,1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on all of this&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The US role is curious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another article on the <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/security/facebook-friends-could-be-spies/2009/05/19/1242498736785.html" rel="nofollow">Facebook claim</a>.</p>
<p>The article mentions recruitment of Arab Israelis.</p>
<p>The arrests made here in the US last week involved Sephardic rabbis. (Arab decent/ Syrian-Jewish rabbis)</p>
<p>This all <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/23/world/middleeast/23lebanon.html" rel="nofollow">seems quite odd</a>. Would be interested in Juan Cole and Colonel Lang’s take <a href="http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/lebanon/090708/lebanese-find-israeli-spies-their-midst?page=0,1" rel="nofollow">on all of this</a>.</p>
<p>The US role is curious.</p>
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		<title>By: laminatorss</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943747</link>
		<dc:creator>laminatorss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m going to keep my eye out for that, thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943745</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have you read the articles regarding warnings about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1137388/israeli-spies-warn-facebook-perils&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Terrorists recruiting&lt;/a&gt; through FB?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I found this interesting. The timing was surprising since Lebanon has been on a huge Israeli spy sweep since &lt;a href=&quot;http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2009/05/lebanon-finds-israeli-spies.html?cid=6a00d8341c72e153ef0115708e4e91970b&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;May&lt;/a&gt;. One of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-mysterious-case-of-the-israeli-spy-ring-hizbollah-and-the-lebanese-ballot-1693844.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;biggest sweeps&lt;/a&gt; happened (40 spies arrested) on the same day as the arrests in NJ and NY of the politicians and rabbis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, the rabbis used the same type of “fundraisers” ( via Yeshiva school for example) that Jack Abrmoff used. Found it interesting that reports said the case was 10 years old. So much of the criminal practices were identical to Abramoff criminal practices.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the articles regarding warnings about <a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1137388/israeli-spies-warn-facebook-perils" rel="nofollow">Terrorists recruiting</a> through FB?</p>
<p>I found this interesting. The timing was surprising since Lebanon has been on a huge Israeli spy sweep since <a href="http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2009/05/lebanon-finds-israeli-spies.html?cid=6a00d8341c72e153ef0115708e4e91970b" rel="nofollow">May</a>. One of the <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-mysterious-case-of-the-israeli-spy-ring-hizbollah-and-the-lebanese-ballot-1693844.html" rel="nofollow">biggest sweeps</a> happened (40 spies arrested) on the same day as the arrests in NJ and NY of the politicians and rabbis.</p>
<p>BTW, the rabbis used the same type of “fundraisers” ( via Yeshiva school for example) that Jack Abrmoff used. Found it interesting that reports said the case was 10 years old. So much of the criminal practices were identical to Abramoff criminal practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943744</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dylan Ratigan’s Morning Meeting on MSNBC.  Smartest morning show out there.  Especially the just-concluded conversation on Goldman Sachs and their perversion of capitalism.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dylan Ratigan’s Morning Meeting on MSNBC.  Smartest morning show out there.  Especially the just-concluded conversation on Goldman Sachs and their perversion of capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: laminatorss</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943743</link>
		<dc:creator>laminatorss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m not deactivating yet, but it certainly isn’t helping me keep it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not deactivating yet, but it certainly isn’t helping me keep it.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943742</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/26/us-healthcare-obama-barack-change&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;great interview&lt;/a&gt; that was in the Guardian this weekend regarding health care in the US. This is an interview with Wendell Potter, whistleblower on the health insurance industry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do not recall, have we had him here at FDL as a guest?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/26/us-healthcare-obama-barack-change" rel="nofollow">great interview</a> that was in the Guardian this weekend regarding health care in the US. This is an interview with Wendell Potter, whistleblower on the health insurance industry.</p>
<p>I do not recall, have we had him here at FDL as a guest?</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/27/early-morning-swim-175/#comment-1943741</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Per AP:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Look, there are not the votes for Democrats to do this just on our side of the aisle,” said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., the chairman of the budget committee.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rep. Jim Cooper, a Tennessee Democrat and a member of the fiscally conservative “Blue Dogs,” said he doubts the Democratic-controlled House could pass a proposal as it’s drafted now. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone who can count realizes that the democrats have just enough votes to pass anything they want.  That means that for every Democrat who breaks ranks we need to get a Republican to break ranks, or we’ll lose.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now there are two possible responses to this situation.  We can water down what we want to woo Republicans, or we can intimidate and punish Democrats who break ranks.  Specifically, I suggest taking it to their electorates with both carrot and stick.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So far the strategy has been to appeal to their sense of civic responsibility.  But now might be a good time to note that many of these Blue Dog’s states that are getting more than their share of returned revenue.  Failure to get good healthcare might impair the nation’s sense of generosity toward those who blocked it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here are the data from the Tax Foundation: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taxfoundation.org/fileshttp://www.eschatonblog.com//fedspend_per_taxesbystate-20071009.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.taxfoundation.org/f.....071009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;New Mexico $2.03 1&lt;br /&gt;
Mississippi $2.02 2&lt;br /&gt;
Alaska $1.84 3&lt;br /&gt;
Louisiana $1.78 4&lt;br /&gt;
West Virginia $1.76 5&lt;br /&gt;
North Dakota $1.68 6&lt;br /&gt;
Alabama $1.66 7&lt;br /&gt;
South Dakota $1.53 8&lt;br /&gt;
Kentucky $1.51 9&lt;br /&gt;
Virginia $1.51 10&lt;br /&gt;
Montana $1.47 11&lt;br /&gt;
Hawaii $1.44 12&lt;br /&gt;
Maine $1.41 13&lt;br /&gt;
Arkansas $1.41 14&lt;br /&gt;
Oklahoma $1.36 15&lt;br /&gt;
South Carolina $1.35 16&lt;br /&gt;
Missouri $1.32 17&lt;br /&gt;
Maryland $1.30 18&lt;br /&gt;
Tennessee $1.27 19&lt;br /&gt;
Idaho $1.21 20&lt;br /&gt;
Arizona $1.19 21&lt;br /&gt;
Kansas $1.12 22&lt;br /&gt;
Wyoming $1.11 23&lt;br /&gt;
Iowa $1.10 24&lt;br /&gt;
Nebraska $1.10 25&lt;br /&gt;
Vermont $1.08 26&lt;br /&gt;
North Carolina $1.08 27&lt;br /&gt;
Pennsylvania $1.07 28&lt;br /&gt;
Utah $1.07 29&lt;br /&gt;
Indiana $1.05 30&lt;br /&gt;
Ohio $1.05 31&lt;br /&gt;
Georgia $1.01 32&lt;br /&gt;
Rhode Island $1.00 33&lt;br /&gt;
Florida $0.97 34&lt;br /&gt;
Texas $0.94 35&lt;br /&gt;
Oregon $0.93 36&lt;br /&gt;
Michigan $0.92 37&lt;br /&gt;
Washington $0.88 38&lt;br /&gt;
Wisconsin $0.86 39&lt;br /&gt;
Massachusetts $0.82 40&lt;br /&gt;
Colorado $0.81 41&lt;br /&gt;
New York $0.79 42&lt;br /&gt;
California $0.78 43&lt;br /&gt;
Delaware $0.77 44&lt;br /&gt;
Illinois $0.75 45&lt;br /&gt;
Minnesota $0.72 46&lt;br /&gt;
New Hampshire $0.71 47&lt;br /&gt;
Connecticut $0.69 48&lt;br /&gt;
Nevada $0.65 49&lt;br /&gt;
New Jersey $0.61 50&lt;br /&gt;
District of Columbia $5.55 na&lt;br /&gt;
Federal Spending in Each State Per Dollar of Federal Taxes&lt;br /&gt;
FY 2005&lt;br /&gt;
Source: Tax Foundation, Census Bureau&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The original data are much better aligned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per AP:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Look, there are not the votes for Democrats to do this just on our side of the aisle,” said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., the chairman of the budget committee.</p>
<p>Rep. Jim Cooper, a Tennessee Democrat and a member of the fiscally conservative “Blue Dogs,” said he doubts the Democratic-controlled House could pass a proposal as it’s drafted now. </p>
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<p>Anyone who can count realizes that the democrats have just enough votes to pass anything they want.  That means that for every Democrat who breaks ranks we need to get a Republican to break ranks, or we’ll lose.  </p>
<p>Now there are two possible responses to this situation.  We can water down what we want to woo Republicans, or we can intimidate and punish Democrats who break ranks.  Specifically, I suggest taking it to their electorates with both carrot and stick.</p>
<p>So far the strategy has been to appeal to their sense of civic responsibility.  But now might be a good time to note that many of these Blue Dog’s states that are getting more than their share of returned revenue.  Failure to get good healthcare might impair the nation’s sense of generosity toward those who blocked it.  </p>
<p>Here are the data from the Tax Foundation: <a href="http://www.taxfoundation.org/fileshttp://www.eschatonblog.com//fedspend_per_taxesbystate-20071009.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.taxfoundation.org/f&#8230;..071009.pdf</a></p>
<blockquote><p>New Mexico $2.03 1<br />
Mississippi $2.02 2<br />
Alaska $1.84 3<br />
Louisiana $1.78 4<br />
West Virginia $1.76 5<br />
North Dakota $1.68 6<br />
Alabama $1.66 7<br />
South Dakota $1.53 8<br />
Kentucky $1.51 9<br />
Virginia $1.51 10<br />
Montana $1.47 11<br />
Hawaii $1.44 12<br />
Maine $1.41 13<br />
Arkansas $1.41 14<br />
Oklahoma $1.36 15<br />
South Carolina $1.35 16<br />
Missouri $1.32 17<br />
Maryland $1.30 18<br />
Tennessee $1.27 19<br />
Idaho $1.21 20<br />
Arizona $1.19 21<br />
Kansas $1.12 22<br />
Wyoming $1.11 23<br />
Iowa $1.10 24<br />
Nebraska $1.10 25<br />
Vermont $1.08 26<br />
North Carolina $1.08 27<br />
Pennsylvania $1.07 28<br />
Utah $1.07 29<br />
Indiana $1.05 30<br />
Ohio $1.05 31<br />
Georgia $1.01 32<br />
Rhode Island $1.00 33<br />
Florida $0.97 34<br />
Texas $0.94 35<br />
Oregon $0.93 36<br />
Michigan $0.92 37<br />
Washington $0.88 38<br />
Wisconsin $0.86 39<br />
Massachusetts $0.82 40<br />
Colorado $0.81 41<br />
New York $0.79 42<br />
California $0.78 43<br />
Delaware $0.77 44<br />
Illinois $0.75 45<br />
Minnesota $0.72 46<br />
New Hampshire $0.71 47<br />
Connecticut $0.69 48<br />
Nevada $0.65 49<br />
New Jersey $0.61 50<br />
District of Columbia $5.55 na<br />
Federal Spending in Each State Per Dollar of Federal Taxes<br />
FY 2005<br />
Source: Tax Foundation, Census Bureau</p>
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<p>The original data are much better aligned.</p>
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