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I was on MSNBC with Town Hall’s Matt Lewis in a short segment and didn’t get to press Matt on exactly how Rush comes to that conclusion, but let’s recap.
Recently, Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. was arrested at his home in Cambridge. What does that incident say to you? And what does it say about race relations in America?
Responding to a question is not as far as I can tell "interjecting race." Obama doesn’t conclude that the officer is guilty of racial profiling, but in answer to the question acknowledges there is "a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcing disproportionately. That’s just a fact."
And the "stupid" comment?
"I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don’t need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who’s in his own home," Obama said in an interview to air tonight on Nightline.
The one who is bringing a mountain of ugly baggage here is Rush. Obama spoke to the officer, Sergeant Crowley today, and they discussed bringing Henry Gates to the White House and all of them having beer. He’s personally setting an example on how to elevate the debate and move race relations forward in this country.
Rush is throwing gasoline on the situation and trying to drag everyone back to the Bull Connor glory days.
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why doesnt old LIMPBALLS just OD already?
Rush Limbaugh is a morbidly obese, pill-popping racist pederast with the charm and social conscience of a Norway rat. And those are his good points.
and im starting to love PBO again,great job on the telly Jane
ill bet …all his money,he is one unhappy motherfkkker
No.
This has been another edition of simple answers to silly questions.
Dear Mr. President,
If you want to avoid raising these troubling issues – dividing the country along racial lines, scaring the crap out of Americans by ruining their health care, encouraging terrorists all over the world by talking like OldEurope™ – we have a suggestion: Do not speak. Ever. Alternatively, you could just change party affiliation. Hell, most of us already vote like Republicans.
Sincerely, Harry (wait, my hand is stuck up Lieberman’s skirt) Reid and the rest of the weak fucks who comprise the Democrats in Congress, who will never, ever lash out at the divisional politics over the criminal neglect of policy being played by our brethren on the other side of the aisle.
Comity first, last, always.
Damn, more rat bashing. Please attempt to refrain from comparing people like Rush to superior (to him anyway) life forms.
That’s his goddamn problem.
This isn’t really about race, it’s about taxing white folks to pay for healthcare for people of the *other* race.
Hey, EDP.
Part of Bill Moyers’ tonight was covering some of the radio hate jocks, such as Beck, Savage, O R., Boortz…..the worst. Evil, cruel, depressing. Raised the point that in order to shock the intensity has to escalate. Such mean, crazy trash that poisons debate.
Hey. Sorry, just had to be an angry honky for a minute there.
Late Night: MSNBC – Will Any Republican Denounce Rush Limbaugh?
No.
you say that like it’s a bad thing.
Long live the 20% republican party!
Amen.
Limbaugh constantly makes the distinction between being a conservative and being a republican. He’s a conservative, and doesn’t particularly give a damn about non-conservative republicans.
Some of those elected to Congress as Republicans will struggle to find a home in their own party with folks like Limbaugh around.
And protecting all the insurance wealth and power in their elusive claims to provide coverage.
And the rest will become Blue Dogs.
They have hate in their hearts. They love the money that their hate gives them.
makes me smile
No way any Republican calls Rush out on this. Remember the last couple that did? They were later forced to get down on their knees and kiss his ass. I’m guessing the thought of having to kiss that ugly ass would prevent anyone from calling him out ever again.
Just a guess though.
Just watched the video. Nice that Jane was able to get the last word and kudos to her for using the opportunity so effectively.
They have hate in their hearts.
and the Bible on their lips….
Good, bad, indifferent?
Facts are facts, and past behavior is a somewhat reliable predictor of future behavior. Past behavior says that Steele and Company are more likely to echo Limppaw’s screeches than think for a moment.
And from the viewpoint of being able to a civil discussion about important policy issues, it is a bad thing.
And beautiful close, Jane.
I think about this issue of what to do about the right-wing talk radio hosts all the time.
I’ve even done some work that has cost them millions of dollars. You want to hurt Rush, cost him money. But not through a boycott.
Instead of denouncing Rush we need to get him out of his safe zone where he can say something that can not be washed away. Something that his own advertisers will have to denounce. Different hosts require different tactics to have an impact on them. When Rush is in a situation he can’t control and he is pushed he will screw up.
On a related note. One of the talk radio hosts in SF, Brian Sussman on KSFO, is aggressively anti-gay rights. So I assembled audio clips of his comments and sent it to an advertiser whose founder, Steve Silver, died of AIDS.
KSFO’s anti-gay rights host Brian Sussman: The New Anita Bryant!
Beach Blanket Babylon
Jo Schuman Silver, President, Steve Silver Productions Inc.
Dear Jo:
Are you aware that you advertise on KSFO, where host Brian Sussman attacks gay activists on the air and actively works to deny gays equal rights? Sussman has stated that gay rights activists are out to “completely destroy and pervert this country”. On July 10th a caller, Steve in Fairfield, asked this question:
Here’s the link it has all the juicy sound bites in it.
How sad is that?
I love it … unfortunately, there isn’t enough brain bleach in the Solar System for me to be able to listen to the likes of Limp-paw, Beck, Hannity and the rest of that crowd.
It’s a human tragedy, but one of their own making.
That’s the kind of stuff Savage was recorded saying to a caller…truly obscene in his remarks.
Wow. Brian Sussman makes mere angry homophobia seem a little quaint. Hope he gets his ass handed to him by his sponsors.
Past behavior says that Steele and Company are more likely to echo Limppaw’s screeches than think for a moment.
and I’m fine with that too.
Who listens to Michael Steele, other than other electorally doomed buffoons?
Of course they are counting on that. The key is to force the people who pay the bills to hear this stuff. Also.
It is no coincidence, Rush and the GOP pander to the same demographic, angry white people.
Jo won’t like that at all.
Are you suggesting that someone should seduce Rush to get him out of his safe zone? :)
I’ll be waiting to hear about the volunteers.
Good close but the the Rethugs will never give up their Rush.
Even if these flyover country white folks don’t have any health care themselves, they’d rather nobody have it than to contribute to the well-being of colored people.
BTW, ratfood, you asked how anyone could fail ballroom dancing in the last thread.
The answer is in two parts: you need to have two left feet and forget to ever go to class.
Except that nobody’s asking them to contribute to anyone’s well-being other than their own.
Tough sell, a recent poll found that an overwhelming percentage of manatees consider Rush to be an obnoxious lard-ass.
You missed the earlier comment in which I noted that scrotal jiggling does not constitute “ballroom dancing.”
Because The Grand Ass Cyst is such a revolting puke, they are repulsed by the metaphorical idea of kissing his ass.
There is a certain level of avoidance and fear of pissing off Limbaugh by R Party activists.
Well, seriously, what did you expect an ignorant, fat, white racist to call him?
I think that might depend on what sort of ballroom you’re talking about. If the mattress mambo is being taught it ought to qualify.
That would certainly come under my TMI heading…
C’mon what about the godamn sugary drink tax? And the cigarette taxes? There’s teabaggers been reduced to smokin’ generics.
I hate to keep polishing this apple but the implication was that Rush somehow managed to fail a course on masturbation.
Two points
This President ran as a unifier, not a divider. Unfortunately for him, he put a spark to the dying story when he commented on it without any details, slamming a group of people who put their lives on the line every day. These men and women are the first people we call when something goes wrong in our lives, and the President was thoughtless in his commments. President Obama has many detractors just like Bush did and they will make the most of this opportunity – fair is fair.
Secondly, the President is on a much higher plane than Limbaugh. Limbaugh is a commentator – think Bill O’Reilly, Olbermann, Matthews. No one in their right mind holds them to the same standard as the President.
Does it come as a surprise that Rush couldn’t get himself up?
Doh! A little too subtle for me tonight, I guess.
The only surprise would be if he can reach it.
JANE!! YOU SO ROCK!
Beautiful work.
I really don’t think that discussion was about police officerS – it was about that particular police officer who used extremely poor judgment not to mention poor community relations. Not everything is a potential crime.
As soon as they can scheme up a way to seem that they are actually flattering old Sticky Tits as they denounce him, well…the sky’s the limit.
;>)
If the “standard” is the truth, what’s the difference?
We should expect that of all our elected folks and media types as well.
How’s the water?
Don’t agree with you. A reporter asked a question and Obama answered him. Most cops are trying to do their best but this cop let his anger get the best of him. He acted unprofessionally.
I’m certain even Obama thinks he should have taken a pass on the question. Mostly I blame the MSM for aiding and abetting the wingnuts in elevating this to the level of a national distraction.
… he did succeed in finding a job where he has the entire GOP willing to do the deed for him!
You were there?
Says You: The story was dying when Obama made his remarks.
IMO, the story had some days to go in any case.
We must never say that blacks are victims of discrimination or victims of any other godamned thing that whites have done to them for millenia.
That black professor, instead of getting uppity, should have thanked that nice white idiot policeman for watching his property so carefully.
Nope!
Yep, the fluff dreams are made of…
”Mostly I blame the MSM…”
Bingo. Distract and amplify–standard operating procedure.
I’m guessing that “nope” was for me.
Appreciate your speculation.
;~P
Let’s straighten out a couple of facts, txmom. Being a cop is not a particularly dangerous job in most jurisdictions. Firefighters have a much higher occupational morbidity/mortality. Cops do live with a lot of stress in their occupational lives, and that slides across into their personal lives.
Maybe the cops are the first people you call, but I suspect that is a bit hyperbolic. I only call cops when I have a problem they can help with.
Second, cops are human, and even the best of them have bad days. Presidents are human, too and they have bad days. Obama was not at his best Wednesday night, but President’s don’t get mulligans at press conferences.
Finally, I’d appreciate it if you’d explain to me why we should not hold O’Reilly, Beck, Dobbs, Matthews, Limbaugh, Hartmann, Maddow and all the rest to the same standard as Obama? As I’ve said on other occasions, opinions are like anuses: everyone has one. Having one doesn’t mean you ought to be sharing it. If you’re going to share it, then you owe it to yourself to make sure that the opinion is informed and based on facts. Actually, you owe it to us, too.
A big part of the problem is that while Olbermann, Maddow and Hartmann would not object to being held to that standard, the noise machine on the right does object. When someone tries to hold them to the facts or tries to make them understand the consequences of their actions, they immediately say, “But I’m an entertainer! No one should take this seriously! Seriously!!”
Do you think it’s a problem that our courts have held that news programs can present propaganda known to the producers to be false as news?
Educated guess: If the cop did not let his anger get the best of him, there would have been no arrest.
Hey there BongoDoc. We have a quorum now.
I really am getting the impression Gates was the one who allowed his temper to get the best of him. As I asked in an earlier thread, if someone had reported seeing the door to his home forced open WHILE he was in Europe, would not Gates have expected the police to respond and confront any person they found inside the residence? It sounds as if it would have been over once he produced ID but he was so pissed off that he basically talked himself into getting arrested. If he’d kept his cool, the arrest could have been avoided and he still would have had recourse if he believed he had been treated unfairly.
What I said in my 52, but much more, uh, detailed?
It was. If Gates was on his property and he had not touched the officer, which would probably be assault, and all he was doing was yelling then the officer had no reason to do what he did. I am speculating that the officer did not like what was being said to him.
really great, Jane.
bit by bit, inch by inch, humans taking this world back from the fucking monsters.
Oh, and the noise machines inability to parse simple English sentences is really irritating. President Obama said, “… the police behaved stupidly …” One can behave stupidly without being stupid. If you doubt it, pick your favorite comedian and listen to enough routines and you’ll catch it.
Here is the police report. Granted, it is only one side of the story but it strikes me as reasonably credible, particularly in light of Crowley’s (purported) record of specializing in race relations.
And for anyone interested, a Salon article suggesting that this incident had less to do with race than Ivy League-itis, aka “Don’t You Know Who I Am?” syndrome.
One major point you screwed up. W ran as a uniter, NOT a divider. Not Obama.
So how do you think W did on that front? I’m divided from previous friends, myself.
I guess I’m a detailer tonight?
I spent today working on a youth recidivism study, maybe it affected my attitudes.
He was tired from the flight, wanted a beer (or, as Melissa Harris-Lacewell eluded, a Pinot Noir), and was itchin’ for a fight, plain and simple. Both he and the cop acted poorly. Drop it.
My $0.02
While the above doesn’t completely strain credulity, it presupposes that you never get yourself hooked up with a cop who is having, at the very least, a bad day. Otherwise it’s off to the pokie.
We give these guys the guns and the enforcement power and authority to manage stressful situations. Perhaps if we gave that power and authority to people who actually aren’t one bad hangover away from imploding, we would see a lot less of this.
Setting aside any race-based argument, of course.
EDIT: Yeah, I know – Suzanne is going to kick my ass for that.
Technically, an American has the right to be angry or rude to anyone who enters his home.
We have granted broad powers to the police to make judgments pertaining to our mental state – that we may present a danger to ourselves or others. A cop uses this as arresting power if we piss him off. It is an abuse of power.
This power was used and abused by the offending officer.
And I am speculating that Mr. Gates was being an asshole.
Are you a cop?
Tell that to the cop responding to a domestic disturbance call.
The smart thing to do in the short term is cooperate. Lodge a formal complaint later if you think you were treated unfairly. Escalating a confrontation with police can end a lot worse than this. Being right is small consolation to the dead.
I stand with those who say that Gates had a right to be an asshole on his own property.
And if you are Professor Gates, and the cop tries to cajole you out of your domicile onto the porch, that’s an escalation he is probably intimately familiar with.
I’ve read the report. It reads to me like a cop’s CYA report. I have cops in the family and (former cops) as colleagues. There are things you look for in a CYA report, and several of them are there.
One biggie was the charge Crowley preferred: disorderly conduct is virtually always an add-on charge. Several court cases have held that it’s impossible to engage in disorderly conduct in your residence. Disorderly conduct gives the DA some throw-away charges to bargain with: cop to the main charge and I’ll drop the disorderly conduct.
What Gates was really guilty of is the nonexistant crime of disrespect of cop.
Second, Crowley refused to identify himself when Gates demanded his name and badge number. Police acting under the color of authority are required to identify themselves on demand. Most cops carry business cards with their station telephone/address, name and badge number for exactly that reason.
Third, Crowley refused to leave Gates’ domicile when Gates asked him to leave. Once Crowley had established that Gates was in his residence and that there was no crime taking place he was obliged to leave when Gates demanded that he leave.
Basically, Crowley was having a really bad day. But while citizens are allowed to be pissed off at cops, cops are not supposed to get pissed off at citizens.
See my 78.
Calling it a night. Wishing a splendid weekend to all.
For those not familiar with the Blue Culture, cops hate domestic disturbance calls. With damned good reason.
You are exactly right. That said, I am always deferential and polite to motherfucking cops. Because that’s the best way to play the game. Of course, I’m white, so I haven’t been racially profiled all my life either.
nite rat
Night ratfood.
Yeah, that’s absolutely right. But Gates wasn’t on his best behavior either, and he’s probably inclined to dislike cops instinctively. His academic rep was made as one of the founders of the post-modern Race Crit(icism) crew. AG Holder also considers himself RaceCrit guy.
Oh yeah… Good night, RF.
This started as a suspected B & E call. Cop was perfectly within his right and Gates was a jerk to get angry. Again, if it had been an actual burglary occurring in his absence, would Gates object to police responding and asking persons present to provide ID?
What I can’t figure out is why Gates violated Rule #1 of dealing with cops. Never invite them into your home. At best, you have nothing to gain. At worst, a bad cop will write an, “I observed…” report that can serve as the basis for future harassment.
Does anyone here tonight understand why Baucus must be obeyed? Can’t Reid just project costs (along with Obama’s folks) and just call for a vote? Obviously I don’t understand the details, but it just seems like everything leads to basic turns into convoluted.
Scenario 1
Cop: I am responding to a call of a break-in at this residence.
Resident: Oh, I live here, here’s my ID
Cop: Thanks
Scenario 2
Cop: I am responding to a call of a break-in at this residence.
Resident: Fuck you!
Which is the better scenario?
It’s not a crime to dislike the cops. Just as respect is a two way street.
Number two makes a better story.
My only question is after Gates gave the officer his ID why did the officer stay around? Why didn’t he just say goodbye and leave – very unprofessional, IMO.
I also wonder what the nosy neighbor feels about all this.
He saw a vase that looked like a bong and he hoped to indulge in a session.
But apparently not a better outcome.
Agreed. But Gates is allowed to be a jerk. Cops are supposed to keep a lid on it, and they’re supposed to be trained to defuse those situations.
But cops are human and all of us have bad days. And I don’t doubt that Gates was as provocative as Crowley’s report says he was: his academic writings are like that, according to my colleagues in Criminal Justice. But Crowley wasn’t supposed to rise to the bait.
Crowley acted stupidly because he is stupid and Limbaugh is creep.
Rush is a waste of a good human body with a blithering idiot for a so called brain that controls said body! Why he is allowed to continue to spew the hate that he does is beyond me. He should get a 5 year stint at Gitmo so he can speak with authority about that subject. He really is just a Bigot in a who has conned some Media moguls that what he spews over OUR airwaves is TRUTH!!
Hey, when dealing with an on-duty cop, the best strategy is, “Yes, sir. No, sir. Three bags full, sir.” Unfailingly polite is the best way to handle it. And never, never, never, ever talk about who you know in the Department.
I completely agree that Crowley shouldn’t have taken the bait. Especially when he was supposedly hand picked to train other officers about racial profiling. If he can’t keep a lid on it, I wonder what the rest of them are like.
There may even be (or should be) a chapter in the cop manual titled “Temperature-cooling strategies” that details what to do if…
The bet is: If there were cameras shooting the scene as it happened, it would have ended very differently, and Professor Gates could have conducted himself exactly as the cop said and been well within bounds.
Has anyone seen newspaperbrat or selise?
Hey, that’s how I answer the phone!
;>)
Hey gang. Looks like old home days around here tonight.
-G
There is. But cops are like computer users: they don’t always Read The Friendly Manual.
been there
Not necessarily. Remember that Rodney King got the living s*** beaten out of him on cameras the cops knew about.
Cops in lots of jurisdictions don’t like having cameras around. My feeling is that cops who don’t want recorders and cameras around documenting things ought not be cops.
Seems they read the we can do whatever the fuck we want to people manual.
backatcha!
;~P
I go there once or twice a month. With software I generally know inside out. It’s gotten to the point that when I’m programming now I keep the manual open on the second screen…
I was more referring to the “Cops” scenario, where polite enforcement and detached cool are the rules and not the exceptions.
But I take your point.
Going back to the nineties, I use them for bedtime reading.
Who needs a life?
Some of them, for sure.
And I can tell you, one department whose officers you don’t want to piss off is the Kern County Sheriff’s Department. Their definition of ‘gun control’ is ‘lead in the X ring.’ And they don’t hesitate to use it.
I’ve spent so much time fighting with computers in this life, I sure hope there’s an afterlife. Sans digital idiots savants.
Nope! You?
Fuck that. I’m coming back as a SATA drive. I will have my revenge.
The city I live in has been trying for several years (at least 10) to get an independant auditor to oversee the police department but has been met with stiff opposition from the department even though the vast majority of the citizens want the auditor, strange that.
Me neither. Couple in the family, though.
At least that’s a step up from ‘warning shot to the back of the head’.
;>)
Kings County is the absolute worst. Very bushesque law enforcement.
The answer as to whether this was a good arrest or not has been definitively answered. The charge was almost immediately dismissed!
None in my family. But I live on an Indian Reservation and I know how off-reservation police occasionally treat tribal people. Not very professionally.
It’s appaarent that Rush feels threatened by a President who can speak with a coherent point and in complete sentences. With dubya rush was able to feel superior. Now he is starting to feel inferior, and in his fear he is just lashing out (hat tip to Bonkers for the talking points).
Well that, and two druggies can relate. Rush relating to anyone with intelligence isn’t possible.
Rush is a moral degenerate fanning the flames of racism. He’s throwing around the whole fucking deck….
Remember, the white man is the Jew of liberal fascism.
-G
The real danger lies with having cops being hired after having been working in prisons in Iraq, Afghanistan, or GTMO.
And a lot of those folks will be with us for a long time. Hope they’re re-trained.
Cops really hate oversight in almost every jurisdiction. Albuquerque requires its cops to carry belt recorders, but doesn’t require their use except in critical situations. The problem with that is that by the time you know it’s a critical situation you ought to record, you’re already in the middle of it.
The good ones turn the recorders on when the get out of the cruiser or off the bike. The others? Oh well.
Cheney wanted to send the military into Buffalo, NY.
Just went back and watched the video. Woooo, Jane – you waxed his ass with your closing statement!! Go Jane!!!
See my 73
I’m done here, appraently.
Night, all.
And Yoo wrote a brief justifying it…
All the usual suspects.
Considering almost every African American in every community across the country feels the same way about the police there must be something to it. I know there are bad people in every community and in every race but not all people of a certain race are bad.
‘night, Dr. B.
From Henry L. Gates:
Freedom and liberty! The Constitution!
-G
Good night, ‘pups.
“my experience”
.
Night BC.
-G
nite doc
Ruffled feathers on each side, gotta start somewhere.
Good night, BC. Happy that you have joined us.
Of course NO GOPer will denounce Rush’s stark raving factless assaults.
He has a following as the Birthers. They don’t want to lose part of their base. Even if it is extreme enough to be on the terrorist watch list.
These radicals can put out the extreme that the republicans may appear moderate in comparison. With much of the corporate media providing their agenda that is very different from everyday Americans interests. Combined is misinformation only the Nazi’s would aspire to.
Let me put it this way,
Would the Joker renounce the riddler for Batman?
Jane, we need Rush and Sarah around for the 2010 elections (more would be handy). Then all we need to do is continually bait them in the run up to the election. They then create more bad publicity for the Republicans. The Republicans then look like a redneck party. Well, alright MORE of a redneck party. Scare the dickens out of everyone.
He can’t possibly get denounced. The Republicans need him so damn desperately… they are a party of monsters, and he’s the loudest ogre of them all.
Jane, to say you were smashing is an insult.
It’s almost impossible for Americans who are not 100% European-American to be taken seriously in moments such as these. Nobody is quicker and more skilled at playing the ethnic card than white supremacists. So in this battle, the 100% European-American Jane Hamsher has “standing” and you wielded it magnificently. A lot of people will notice. Among them, somewhere, is Steve Gilliard (RIP).
If Joe Biden had a brain, he’d be way out front on this. Hey Sgt. Crowley, you don’t get to “teach
negroespeople a lesson,” on the taxpayer’s dime.Speeding tickets bring revenue IN. The process of ARRESTING someone does not. It’s especially bad, when you have to drop the charges.
Could Gates have handled it better, ABSOLUTELY.
If a Cambridge PD SGT, who is not 100% European-American, had arrested Harvard Ph.D., Henry Kissinger, he’d be looking for a job.
Cambridge PD receives a lot of its funding from the state of MA and the federal government. I hope the state and the feds audit Sgt. Crowley’s decisioning. What 911 calls came into Cambridge PD after Gates’? It’s certainly possible that had Crowley not diverted resources to Gates, that those more serious situations could have been handled better. Policing is about getting the most bang out of the law enforcement buck. Crowley’s no rookie, he’s a SGT.
Of the literally hundreds of super threads I’ve been priviledged to be a part of at FDL, Judy Miller’s dust bunnies, Scooter’s aspen’s letter, the night Lamont beat JoeLie, the Scooter indictment, the Scooter conviction, when Dick shot Harry in the face,…. this one ranks right up there.
Fuck the police. – N.W.A.
Are they cute? – Hmmm
Jane, you did fantastic. Especially, your closure hit the nail on the repubs’ collective heads. We need more quick thinking, mocking heads like you to make the repubs lose their heads.
Only thing I don’t understand is why that guy, matt lewis, was allowed soliloquize for so long. Bloody hell, he even dragged Nancy Pelosi as a strawman into this.
And kudos to both the msnbc anchors too.
Jane,
That was a great close. But how did you not say blowjob?
russ makes a ton of money throwing gas on fires.
follow the money and you will discover the real america
the america that makes the rules.
the have mores america with the money
the dark secrets of capitalism
naw easier to blame russ
that way we can keep our capitalist system
The pompous self anointed and appointed “”meat head”" is a sad individual He preys of the fears and ignorances of people. Rush is an angry dysfunctional white male whose inability to place himself in the circumstances of others, is a character flaw and the cause of his basic and pathetic “Yuckhead mentality!”
Very nice summary at the end, Jane.
and who expects Limbaugh to change? Do people think that the scales will fall off one day and he will be transformed? The fact that the corporate media allows the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O’Reilly et al to spew their daily dose of hate all in the name ratings and profit is what is disturbing. The road to fascism is paved in dollars.
Don’t know why the President would promote using such a dangerous drug that kills tens of thousands (more?) each year in America, and has as little health benefit as beer does.
Now if he would’ve invited the players over for a few bong hits to calm down, medicinally of course, that would’ve been much more responsible.
I now have to media heroes: Jane Hamsher and Charles P. Pierce, author of Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free.
Jane for this appearance. Pierce for nailing David Shuster with examples of how NBC and MSNBC had contributed to Idiot America’s rise.
Good Jane. But it’s a shame you couldn’t have pointed out that Rush is A STONE COLD RACIST. The record on his racism is voluminous. He hates balck people.
Except of course those little Brazilian boys.
Jane, Rusk is nothing more than the captain on the USS Titanic of hate, sailing in the ocean of truth. He can’t avoid the iceberg ahead and him and his dittohead crew will drown together.
I wonder if Limberger would make a good buoy in the inter-coastal waterway OR just a complete jam-up…hhuummm….You would have to make accommodations to remove the oil slick…other than that, should be good to go!! Who needs dredging and maintenance ???
Oh yes..get those slimeballs with their dangerous inciteful hate talk off the radio. Go to ThePetitionSite and sign my petition” Rid the Airwaves of Hate Radio”….they are such scum and appeal to all the racists and people with small minds and large gun collections! The FCC should not allow such people who have gone way past the point of criticising their opponents political views…and gotten into pushing and pushing for some nut to react to what they say in a violent manner. They scare me. P.S. Why wasn’t Limbaugh ever prosecuted for the drugs? I am sure he is still on them…he is so out of control.